EPTCare to respond to my case Fuba, why shouldn't we lynch you?
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Care to respond to my case Fuba, why shouldn't we lynch you? | ||
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I'll read up on WoS/Lazer but is there a particular thing you don't like about my Fuba case? | ||
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Oats asked why I'm scum: "yhea, filters are really hard to read, no?" Dodges the question "Stutters has done less scummy things than JJD" What things? Coupled with Vivax's case, this seems like a good lynch. | ||
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##vote: Lazermonkey | ||
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Catching up since I missed multiple pages. | ||
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Well WoS's most recent post has me thinking he might be scum. I'm literally WoS' only scum-read this game. He jumps on my wagon and sheeps Vivax and Rayn (with his only unique reasoning being that I didn't feel like translating his worthless posts in French because I was phone posting). He twice emphasizes his doubt of my wagon by virtue of four people already being on it. BUT WAIT On July 01 2013 03:59 WaveofShadow wrote: lol speaking of Rayn grasping at straws, (somebody mentioned that earlier..?) I certainly love his case on me. For a guy who talks a lot about towny perspectives, he doesn't even remotely consider the fact that me saying I have nothing to say can be from a towny perspective at all, cause, you know, I had nothing to say at the time. The contradiction he comes up with is not a contradiction at all in my eyes, but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, right? I also especially love how hard he pushes me as his main scumread. I'm still not convinced that he is scum though and I want to look closer when I get the chance at his very recent scumgame as compared to something like CC. Stutters I was thinking of unvoting you but your recent post gives me pause. You just look so afraid to take a stance on anything. C'est scummy. Ladies and gents I'm out until later tonight; kid is at the grandparents for the night and you can sure as hell bet I'm not spending free time with the wife at the computer. He literally hasn't taken a stance on anything to this point and waffled on me because the wagon was too easy when thats literally the exact same thing he said my most recent post was scummy for. After that he does his summary thing which shows no real analysis just worthless summaries of what we already know. Wat is this waffly shit? So no read on me, he thinks Vivax looks bad but ACTUALLY I don't want to kill him, and the tone of that last sentence makes me laugh. 'Guys we should probably kill JarJar, if that's ok with you........' Maybe that's me reading into it a bit too much but there's a difference between 'We need to kill JJD right now.' and 'We really should kill JarJar......' Its those damn ellipses or something. Yeah I'd defs lynch Lazer atm. Worth noting though is he attacks Lazer for saying Vivax is scummy but he still wanted to lynch JJD because Vivax is active and although his tunneling felt scummy it isn't a scumtell of itself. Maybe I'm misinterpreting him, but half his points against Lazer are for using ellipses? Seriously. Also note despite saying he'd lynch him at this point, he doesn't mention Lazer again in his filter. He follows that up with indecisive posts on Vivax and Rayn. Finally his players he wants to look into post: On July 02 2013 11:25 WaveofShadow wrote: Players I want to look into/talk to when I get the chance: Marv - I find personal interaction with him to be the best way I get a read of him; I don't know what his scum game looks like so I'm still kind of wary about him. Fuba - His townplay was really strong in Roulette and I see bits and pieces of it here but his lack of activity muddled it up somewhat, and it's different than the lack of activity he exhibited in Roulette. In that game he came in strong and performed strong analysis when necessary....here there was much more fluff to his posting that rubs me the wrong way amidst the good posts. Stutters - Still think he's scum. His performance is a lot better than the half of the game I was there for but there's still stuff like this: Never gives the aforementioned reads and his 'case' on Fuba is incredibly weak and only points out the glaringly obvious that many had pointed out earlier. The conclusion makes sense somewhat as I agree that Fuba's regular analysis was lacking here and all the conclusions he reaches amount to 'I'm not sure',' but it's not much of a case and I could see it as a bus. Then Vivax comes in and critiques the case a little and what happens? Immediately ready to drop it and push it to the backburner instead of coming back and trying to push it more strongly. This is not a towny who has a strong scumread, this is scum who was hoping he could do some weak analysis and then jump on sheep someone else. Marv - "I dont know so I'm going to look at him" very helpful Fuba - Says the same thing I and multiple others have said. Notice that, once again, there is no conclusion only observations. Me- Hey a definitive stance! On me again  .Here's why I think this is scummy. First, obviously how non-committal he is while also using that as his sole point against me. Second: Blatant misrepresentation. I still maintain my case on Fuba is pretty damn strong, he still is doing exactly what I laid out. That one is subjective though, whatever. "Never gives the aforementioned reads": This one bugs me. He completely ignores that I agreed with Vivax's case AND provided additional information that helped to secure his lynch pre-claim. Obviously it was wrong and forced a claim which sucks, but that is taking a stance. Notice how he also tries to pin promised reads on me when I said "I will read up on them later." Blatant misrepresentation to strengthen his case. The last part of his post is taken completely out of the context of the thread to make me look worse. I was on the chopping block at that point and would have been mislynched through towns passivity. Vivax had been expressing his disagreement with my Fuba case for hours and we had town reads on each other. I needed to work with someone to find a good lynch to both stop my mislynch and maximize the odds of hitting scum. | ||
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On July 03 2013 01:23 WaveofShadow wrote: I'm not sure how you think this would happen. Stutters have you really never been mislynched? I'm trying to think of games we've been in together and I know you're under the gun pretty often for your activity and such. I'm willing to accept your explanation regarding Vivax as it does seem to fit but as I said earlier I'd like to see something new from you that doesn't seem to echo his sentiments, and since he's not here apparently, this would be the perfect time. What are your thoughts regarding Lazer or gumshoe currently? Do you still feel the same way about Fuba? Outside of WLIIA, and that was clearly the best option in that game. Marv can explain better prob, I think it was his idea. Fuba is still #1 scum to me. He's dodging questions and his responses have been non-specific summaries where he just calls people scum instead of showing why they are through analysis. Gumshoe I need to dive similarly to how I did you. That's coming up next. With the mass claim Lazer is a non factor. I'm assuming he isn't going to be counterclaimed and that means he must be dead in 2 nights or he'll start confirming people left and right and scum is fucked if they can even survive a mass claim. If he's still alive we re-evaluate then, until then we don't lynch him. | ||
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Gonna look over both of them then hang on. | ||
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