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On July 03 2013 03:28 Lazermonkey wrote: I don't get it Ray, is your thing against Marv the fact that he is unsure of whether my claim is true or not? That there HAS to be a cop if there is a miller? Because this obviosuly isn't true. It does exist of games with a miller and no cop... Yeah with MYLO on D2? | ||
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On July 03 2013 03:39 Lazermonkey wrote: I'm no master of balance and I don't feel like discussing it all too much but the fact that we are able to claim our names and be semi confirmed town just like that is kinda good for town, don't you think? We really saved us two misslynches yesterday with my and JJD claim... I actually think you are playing a good scumgame with marv + X and marv just blew it. At least definitely blew his own scumgame. | ||
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On July 03 2013 03:43 Lazermonkey wrote: Probably not. And I don't feel like searching. Can you show me a game with 2KP and there were miller(s) but no cop and the ability to semi confirm yourself as town by claiming your role? Because that is the relevant question in this case I'd say. wtf? How is that relevant? I am saying there is no millers and no cop. | ||
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I don't care about solstice atm, i care about convincing townies to lynch marv because he is 100% scum. | ||
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On July 03 2013 03:45 Lazermonkey wrote: Rayn, what ya think about Solstice? You've barely mentioned him this far. Is this a question you present to your scumread? Do you think solstice/me are more likely scum than marv? | ||
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On July 03 2013 03:51 WaveofShadow wrote: Rayn what do you think of my points regarding a scum Stutters? Who would you imagine 3rd scum to be in your case of LM/marv scumteam? atm you. Stutters agreed with me instantly when i laid my evidence on marv, i don't think he is scum. | ||
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Ehh.. then why do you say "You've barely mentioned him this far."? Why does it matter to you if i have mentioned him or not if you think i am town? Townies usually do not mention people who are not their top suspects often. | ||
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On July 03 2013 04:01 WaveofShadow wrote: I think you're going to have to come up with something better than "people who agree with me instantly aren't scum." First of all I do agree with you in that I find marv to be the most likely to be scum atm, but I always consider other options as well---considering that there have been games where presence of roles that can mess with cop do not necessarily indicate cop does not mean I disagree with you. Second of all if you find Stutters town and me scum, do you have any other reasoning for this? No i don't, regarding Stutters. Only thing he has done that's weird in my opinion is his behaviour near lynch where he asks marv "what should i look for regarding vayne?" and then doesn't post before the lynch. But him agreeing with me on this marv thing is insta-town-tell. You have not done much on D1, i suggest you think hard if what i say makes sense and act accordingly. The easiest explanation is usually the right one, and here it is that marv fucked up regarding Lazer (whatever he is) and is mafia. He was not thinking from miller!PoV when he doubted Lazer's claim. | ||
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On July 03 2013 04:04 Lazermonkey wrote: But aren't you basing everything on that Marv is scum then? Drawing conclusions between unflipped players are dangerous...If you disregard Marv what do you think of him? His action during teh lynch etc? My solstice read (or any other read) has not been in connection with marv. I had a hard time finding mafia, and at the start of N1 my scum reads were fuba/you, which i have already said in thread. gumshoe was null, and everyone else more or less town. Now gumshoe has claimed, i am sure marv is scum, i am semi-sure Lazer is scum, i am not sure of you and fuba. I don't know how you usually treat situations like this (when you need to think from some other person's point of view with a different role you actually are) but i am shocked you (and Lazer, but that was kinda expected) can't see what i see here. | ||
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On July 03 2013 04:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: My solstice read (or any other read) has not been in connection with marv. I had a hard time finding mafia, and at the start of N1 my scum reads were fuba/you, which i have already said in thread. gumshoe was null, and everyone else more or less town. Now gumshoe has claimed, i am sure marv is scum, i am semi-sure Lazer is scum, i am not sure of you and fuba. I don't know how you usually treat situations like this (when you need to think from some other person's point of view with a different role you actually are) but i am shocked you (and Lazer, but that was kinda expected) can't see what i see here. EBWOP: replace all "you" with WoS, i thought i was responding to WoS. | ||
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On July 03 2013 04:14 WaveofShadow wrote: No Rayn, what is your reasoning for thinking I'm scum? I brought up suspicion of my own towards marv before you showed up and I agreed with you at the same time as he did, I just didn't act the same way Stutters has been acting all game and riding a suspected townplayer's dick. If my not licking your boots for coming up with what you did is why you think I'm scum then good luck. Yes you did. You even asked what i did from him and got an answer. The shocking thing is you did not make any conclusions from the answer other than "hmmm.. weird". Don't worry though. I don't think your absence on D1 is a scumtell and i am not sure you are scum and i won't treat you as 100% scum. I just don't think Stutters is mafia because i don't anything really scummy from him on D1, and i do not think he would be bussing marv right off the bat (this would be his first scumgame right?). You have plenty of time to prove your innocence. I am probably going to die tonight with either gumshoe/Vivax, that's why i need to shout this to everyone so that those slimy scum won't get out of this. There are not many players who are able to carry the game, and if you are town i hope you will relook what i have said in this phase and think really hard, because i am right here. Hopefully Oats is town aswell, as he is at least seemingly sure that marv is scum (idk why), but he is good at shouting aswell, although he is far more irritating than me (at least to me haha). ^_^ | ||
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The only thing that might have been right was Fuba (and to me you). I'm interested in looking more closely to Fuba, because there are not many possibilities for scum if marv & Lazer are scum. And i am not interested in looking into other people unless we kill marv, because he is my top scumread and he is scum. | ||
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