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On July 10 2013 10:50 Ace wrote: I'm around for a bit as I'm taking a break from a brutal day. Any questions for me shoot. Hi Ace!
So, seeing that Kenpachi rolled rayn, rolled whatever, what was it you were going to say based on his ploy? I thought you planned on sayin somethin.
And a counter- what do you think MY time would be best spent doing?
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Oh and your take on tofu's jampidampi case?
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Ok, where we are standing: + Show Spoiler + Signup list: 1. Dandel Ion 2. Ghost_403 3. Oatsmaster 4. Stutters695 5. Z-BosoN 6. Abenson
7. Meapak_Ziphh - Killed Night 1 8. Ace 9. MajuGarzett 10. Johnnywup 11. Onegu 12. Geript 13. VayneAuthority 14. Strongandbig 15. Gumshoe
16. OriginalName - lynched Day 1
17. TanGeng - Nuked Day 1 18. Xatalos 19. CaucasianAsian 20. Alakasam 21. WaveofShadow 22. jampidampi
23. raynpelikoneet - Killed Night 1
24. Nirvana.Gabo - Redirected Nuke Day 1 25. FirmTofu 26. Chezinu 27. austinmcc
Good morning. a bit surprised on the scum kills, but ok.
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On July 10 2013 11:44 CaucasianAsian wrote:Ok, where we are standing: + Show Spoiler + Signup list: 1. Dandel Ion 2. Ghost_403 3. Oatsmaster 4. Stutters695 5. Z-BosoN 6. Abenson
7. Meapak_Ziphh - Killed Night 1 8. Ace 9. MajuGarzett 10. Johnnywup 11. Onegu 12. Geript 13. VayneAuthority 14. Strongandbig 15. Gumshoe
16. OriginalName - lynched Day 1
17. TanGeng - Nuked Day 1 18. Xatalos 19. CaucasianAsian 20. Alakasam 21. WaveofShadow 22. jampidampi
23. raynpelikoneet - Killed Night 1
24. Nirvana.Gabo - Redirected Nuke Day 1 25. FirmTofu 26. Chezinu 27. austinmcc
Good morning. a bit surprised on the scum kills, but ok. Me too, but life is that way.
All your townreads are pretty good!
+ Show Spoiler + those flips! But the OP of every mafia game has this info, perhaps not immediately but it happens. Have you read te pages I posted too often?
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Good evening. I'm still in yesterday hehehe
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+ Show Spoiler + just realized I've been a jackass again. Uh, don't want you to look scummy sir.
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On July 10 2013 11:17 Alakaslam wrote: Oh and your take on tofu's jampidampi case?
It looks solid. I had my own slight scum read on jamp because when I was arguing with rayne and he jumped in I don't know how he couldn't understand what I was saying. I tried to make myself clear multiple times but he along with some others just weren't listening to logic and assumed rayne had to be Town. Multiple people had reservations about "the plan" but a few bought it with little hesitation.
Now Tofu is saying I'm scum too so that means I was arguing with my scum buddy and neither of us came out with any advantages. But we'll see what he's got.
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Ok. Also, what is your read of me if I may ask?
And on Oats?
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On July 10 2013 12:43 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 11:17 Alakaslam wrote: Oh and your take on tofu's jampidampi case? It looks solid. I had my own slight scum read on jamp because when I was arguing with rayne and he jumped in I don't know how he couldn't understand what I was saying. I tried to make myself clear multiple times but he along with some others just weren't listening to logic and assumed rayne had to be Town. Multiple people had reservations about "the plan" but a few bought it with little hesitation. Now Tofu is saying I'm scum too so that means I was arguing with my scum buddy and neither of us came out with any advantages. But we'll see what he's got. My reads on you and jamp are mutually exclusive. In fact, if one of you flips scum, I would likely stop pursuing the other. This is part of the reason why I am reluctant to share my read of you.
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Then don't, please.
Firm, what can I do for you? I don't have long, but I do have a bit. I'm not sure who to check etc.
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FirmTofu, your "Damning Evidence" on jampidampi isn't really that damning. It's possible that he knew rayn was town and lying, much like VA seemed to know that johnnywup was going to flip town early D1, but I'd say that it's a small piece of circumstantial evidence rather than anyhow conclusive or even major. I agree with the other points though.
On July 10 2013 09:30 FirmTofu wrote:Austin is currently null for me. He makes a few posts that are scummy as hell, but he also makes an equal amount of posts that make me think he is town. Ex of scummy thing he did: As soon as the votes started piling on the ON wagon that he started, he started backing off his lynch. I would like to think that a townie in his position would have pushe his best scum read no matter what. Ex of a townie thing he did: he started questioning people about their thoughts on me. Honestly, all town members should have been doing this on Night 1. My play was very scummy considering I jumped on the ON wagon before it was a sure thing and I jumped off after it became obvious that it would go through. ON flipping town implicates me heavily and Austin pursuing this makes me believe he is town.
This post resonates heavily with my line of thinking. I didn't like austin hesitating and subtly retreating from his OWN wagon, at all. Seems more like a scum afraid of the flip than a townie going fearlessly with his reads. Then again, austin has been pretty active lately (N1) and been open with his reads. But one thing that felt definitely wrong during N1 was his utter lack of interest in rayn's claim. "Other people talked about it, so I didn't need to." It's hard to imagine town austin saying something like that.
In any case, I feel better about FirmTofu being town now. This post strengthened my stance of already leaning on town earlier.
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On July 10 2013 11:44 CaucasianAsian wrote:Ok, where we are standing: + Show Spoiler + Signup list: 1. Dandel Ion 2. Ghost_403 3. Oatsmaster 4. Stutters695 5. Z-BosoN 6. Abenson
7. Meapak_Ziphh - Killed Night 1 8. Ace 9. MajuGarzett 10. Johnnywup 11. Onegu 12. Geript 13. VayneAuthority 14. Strongandbig 15. Gumshoe
16. OriginalName - lynched Day 1
17. TanGeng - Nuked Day 1 18. Xatalos 19. CaucasianAsian 20. Alakasam 21. WaveofShadow 22. jampidampi
23. raynpelikoneet - Killed Night 1
24. Nirvana.Gabo - Redirected Nuke Day 1 25. FirmTofu 26. Chezinu 27. austinmcc
Good morning. a bit surprised on the scum kills, but ok.
Why are you surprised? Do you have some new conclusion to make of the kills?
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On July 10 2013 08:38 WaveofShadow wrote: I have to do one of two things this game: Either superdive Geript and find out if he's scum or town once and for all, or completely ignore him. Anyway, we lynch DI up until the point he's modkilled or some shit. Will have the chance to do some more reading in a bit to find out who our next target should be. Something strikes me as off with Xatalos---it may have been the way he was super insane-o quick to believe Rayn without doubting anything he said but I want to be sure before laying down any suspicion.
It's probably fairly prudent to mention that it's entirely possible that the NKs were submitted on the basis of this being an extremely lurky scumteam. I think someone else mentioned 'everyone talking now is likely town' (though I forget when it was said offhand) and I remember it resonating with my thoughts.
If you suspect me or geript (both pretty strong general townreads I think), you should go read our filters and back up your suspicions with something instead of throwing random suspicions like that. You remind me a bit of Gonzaw and his conspiracy theories in PTP (all wrong of course). If you don't find something worth pursuing, I suggest you start focusing on more pressing matters (pretty much half of the players are under some level of suspicion right now).
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On July 10 2013 07:50 Ace wrote: Get your vote off of me Xata. I was wrong about rayne being scum, but still right that his reasoning was flawed. His role confirms that he was lying about the nuke. But we're passed that now.
First order of business is Dandel. Above all else we're getting rid of him today.
##vote Dandel Ion
You seem the most likely scum based on how N1 went. So, definitely you over DI (he might well be scum, but also feels like an easy lynchbait). It feels a bit weird that you would shoot rayn after piling all that suspicion on him, but it's hard to say what motivated scum to kill him at this point.
austinmcc, you asked a lot of reads from me yesterday. But what's YOUR read on Ace? What are your top scumreads?
Willing to hear anyone else's opinion of Ace as well. If someone brings up a good point for not lynching him, I'll consider it.
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Hmmmm. I just had a terrible thought. What if austinmcc asked me so many reads during the late N1 in order to decide if he should shoot me or not? And what if I'm on the wrong track and that's why I could live another day? Damn, maybe I should have just shut up at night.
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Anyways, where's Chezinu been? I almost forgot about him already. And he's still making as little sense to me as ever. I dread him being left at LYLO, so at this point he should probably just be disposed of.
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I'm nearly sure chezinu is town, xatalos, despite him being..himself I guess?
A few of his posts have included references to North Korea. Combined with the fact that he had an unstable nuke, he has a role almost identical to mine. My role is also North Korea themed with an unstable nuke. I am town. I think it's a logical step to say that two nearly identical roles (the only thing being changed is how long the timer is until the nuke blows) are of the same alignment. It's likely he is Kim Jong il, as I am Kim Jong un.
Why the hosts thought North Korea was on the townie side of things is beyond me, however.
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On July 10 2013 17:32 johnnywup wrote: I'm nearly sure chezinu is town, xatalos, despite him being..himself I guess?
A few of his posts have included references to North Korea. Combined with the fact that he had an unstable nuke, he has a role almost identical to mine. My role is also North Korea themed with an unstable nuke. I am town. I think it's a logical step to say that two nearly identical roles (the only thing being changed is how long the timer is until the nuke blows) are of the same alignment. It's likely he is Kim Jong il, as I am Kim Jong un.
Why the hosts thought North Korea was on the townie side of things is beyond me, however.
I'd be careful to base reads on role flavor (or mechanics). Do you have some other reason for believing him to be town?
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XigXag replaces Dandel Ion. Everyone say hi!
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[UoN]Sentinel replaces Abenson. Say hi to him too!
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