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Well I'm going to just post a summary of what I had written down. Browser tab crashed so here's the short version:
ON wagon:
austinmcc, Chezinu, raynpelikoneet, Dandel Ion, Xatalos, FirmTofu,
Alakaslam, geript, ghost_403, Chezinu, geript, TanGeng, gumshoe, johnnywup, Onegu
DI wagon:
Dandel Ion (8): johnnywup, WaveofShadow, OriginalName, Ace, VayneAuthority,
strongandbig, Meapak_Ziphh, Alakaslam, Stutters695, Nirvana.Gabo
Nirvana is killed by a redirected nuke from WoS. If Dandel/Xig are scum, then WoS would have been bussing
his own scum buddy early, and never changing his vote to a Townie lynch. WoS is most likely Town.
The last set of voters to push the ON wagon include Chezinu, geript, [green]Tangeng]/green], gumshoe, johnnywup, and Onegu.
Chezinu has several votes elsewhere, so for now he is inconclusive. johnnywup had 1 vote parked on WoS, and only voted for ON later. geript only voted for Alakslam outside of ON, he unvoted once then voted again for him. gumshoe appears at the end of both a Chezinu wagon and ON wagon. Onegu appears early on the Chezinu wagon and votes for ON towards the end.
@Firm and Alakaslam: why did you take your vote off of ON and not put it on Dandel? You voted for Vayne twice even though he could not be getting lynched.
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@alakslam: because he probably has radiation nukes
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Ace is doing jack shit and it worries me.
Austin, I woke up, caught up, decided that Firmtofu wasnt actually scummy for the fake nuke thing, its just speculation.
And that therefore, with 2 bullshit cases, and the random advice for not much reason, I think you are scum.
Im waiting for jampis response to case by FT.
I havent read VA that much if at all
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Wait, who probably has radiation nukes? And why do you think this or even care? It's unlike a townie to search for blues >.> And what post are you even referring to?
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I am willing to give dandels replacement a chance to play the game since dandel didnt.
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Korea (South)11584 Posts
Can someone explain what a radiation nuke is?
Also, from my previous game, Koshi isn't bad and was very actively participating. Since of the replacements, can we really go off of previous assumptions of being scummy? Or should we just wrap it up to him being inactive?
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Korea (South)11584 Posts
previous assumptions of DI*
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Koshi is Ghost's replacement
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On July 11 2013 00:33 johnnywup wrote:
Wait, who probably has radiation nukes? And why do you think this or even care? It's unlike a townie to search for blues >.> And what post are you even referring to?
Okay never mind, I figured out what post it was referring to. Makes sense now.
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Oats...what are you doing.
You call out Ace for doing jack shit, but I haven't really seen you do anything other than stop a nuke D1.
You say this:On July 11 2013 00:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ace is doing jack shit and it worries me.
Austin, I woke up, caught up, decided that Firmtofu wasnt actually scummy for the fake nuke thing, its just speculation.
And that therefore, with 2 bullshit cases, and the random advice for not much reason, I think you are scum.
Im waiting for jampis response to case by FT.
I havent read VA that much if at all But I had suspicions of FirmTofu because of his posts around the D1 lynch. Had nothing to do with the fake nuke thing, and when you found him scummy there was nothing about FirmTofu and the fake nuke thing.
If you think my cases are bullshit, then you didn't follow the D1 lynch and you're not following the timing of the game at all. If you think I'm giving random advice, rather than advice that limits mafia's options and trying to set up a plan for how town is going to approach nukes/nuking this game, you are a sillybilly.
And this:On July 11 2013 00:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
I am willing to give dandels replacement a chance to play the game since dandel didnt.
is even more sillybilly-esque. Nobody KEPT DI from playing the game, he chose not to. He chose to do nothing that would affect the game, despite checking in from time to time. That's a conscious decision, and it says something about his alignment. The fact that you cast it aside and don't see it as AT ALL telling on his alignment, despite having played with him, despite him almost getting lynched, and despite all the posts that people having dug up on how scum DI plays/thinks...well, that doesn't look good for you.
You're either mafia or you're choosing not to actually read and participate in this game, skating by on having saved someone from a nuke.
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Also, if it's the latter, please actually read and participate.
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Dude. Advice given so far has been useless. Your post on FirmTofu was about the claim not the fake nuke, my apologies but my point still stands.
D1 you lynched town, it looks like you want to lynch another townread of mine again. Now is austin bad? No.
So therefore you are scum.
I firmly believe that dandel would play to win unless he really couldnt so I dont feel that its alignment indicative.
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Jesus, my guy looks scummy as hell just from his filter... I just got back from swim practice and am now reading the thread.
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On July 11 2013 01:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
Dude. Advice given so far has been useless. Your post on FirmTofu was about the claim not the fake nuke, my apologies but my point still stands.
D1 you lynched town, it looks like you want to lynch another townread of mine again. Now is austin bad? No.
So therefore you are scum.
I firmly believe that dandel would play to win unless he really couldnt so I dont feel that its alignment indicative. So far, yeah, it's been useless. Do you think it's not a good idea for people who can't keep up with the thread to try and participate? Do you think that it's a good idea for town to exert majority control over nukes, using them as extra lynches?
D1 I lynched town, yup. The plurality did too, I heard it wasn't just me.
(1) Holy balls I have lynched plenty of townies. I think in my last town game I mainly wanted to lynch town iamp. I think in one of my more recent towngames I basically ONLY wanted to lynch townies, whatever that one was that we both played in and I just argued with marv.
(2) Moreover, if you think DI is town, then you think that with the lynch looking like it was going to be on DI D1, I posted that ON case and voted ON and caused a stir just to lynch a different townie. That's fine, that's solid play in my mind, but if I needed to look active/townie, there might have been better ways to get active than writing that case and getting a townie lynched.
(3) If you think DI's absence is NOT alignment indicative, then how do you have a townread on him?
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I think that if I'm your top scumread, you're mafia or really just being lazy. None of what you're saying really makes sense. And whether or not my plans/advice is "useless" doesn't indicate whether you think it's actually good or bad advice, advice that, if followed, would favor town or mafia.
If I'm gonna give useless advice, I can make up useless advice all day. But if the advice is town-favored, maybe that's important, whether other people are taking it or not. However, if you'll note, ain't nobody fired off no nukes yet today. Maybe my advice is useless, maybe it's not.
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I dont have dandel as a townread, where the fuck do you get that?
Austin, maybe scum aint got a nuke so your advice doesnt affect your team.
Can you explain how Im scum if I think you are scum? OMGUS much?
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whats worse is that the other 2 replacements have showed but no word on xig xag yet, probably has to read the scum qt before the thread lawl
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On July 11 2013 01:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont have dandel as a townread, where the fuck do you get that?
Austin, maybe scum aint got a nuke so your advice doesnt affect your team.
Can you explain how Im scum if I think you are scum? OMGUS much?
On July 11 2013 01:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
D1 you lynched town, it looks like you want to lynch another townread of mine again.
I want to lynch DI --> xigxag. Assumed this was referring to him.
If scum doesn't have nukes, THEN WHY DOES MZ HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO SHUT DOWN NUKE FACTORIES? You think that MZ, as town, can shut down nuke factories, but only town has the ability to produce nukes? The fact that a town role does that means anti-town forces have that. Scum not having nukes in this game would be like nobody having alignments in a DT game, or there being no KP in a game with medics. The role wouldn't exist in a regular game unless it could be used in a way that benefits town. Again, you're not reading the game closely enough.
I don't care if you think i'm scummy. I think that if I'm your TOP scumread, you're either really not paying attention or you're scum. It's not pure OMGUS, it's more...you are asking people for a lot of reads, and giving out very very little content that you yourself generate, whole cloth. You pop me out as your top scumread just because you like rayn's reads, which you never actually discuss before magically arriving at me as top scumread. You don't seem to care that there is a legitimate argument that rayn's reads were constructed in a wonky manner, made by multiple people.
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I dunno dude, there have been millers with no cops.
Speculation is bad.
What is the legitimate argument that rayns reads are bad?
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oh and maju I am pretty sure is scum after reading his filter, doesn't form any original reads, doesn't give reasons for why people are town, scummy response to the rayn thing etc. it's pretty bad. Of the 4 people rayn set out this is the only one I feel comfortable sheeping.
Dandel or maju today for me, gonna start a wagon on maju and see what happens
##vote: majugarzett
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