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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 09 2013 22:14 GMT
#1841
Oh yeah I'm gonna put my vote in on dandel ion.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 09 2013 22:14 GMT
#1842
Nah, I'm going with rayn being correct through his plan.

##Vote Ace
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 09 2013 22:15 GMT
#1843
That's an odd set of kills.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 09 2013 22:17 GMT
#1844
On July 10 2013 07:15 geript wrote:
That's an odd set of kills.


I'm not surprised by Meapak but I'm surprised by rayn (especially if most of Ace/austin/jampidampi/MajuGarzett are scum).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 09 2013 22:18 GMT
#1845
On July 10 2013 07:15 geript wrote:
That's an odd set of kills.

Rayn maybe because this confirms that he did indeed fake claim, but m_z is a pretty standard choice I think. I certainly thought he was pretty much confirmed town.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 09 2013 22:18 GMT
#1846
Although it could have been deemed too hard of a mislynch and too much danger.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 09 2013 22:22 GMT
#1847
DI still seems to fit better as scum (meta) but considering all the crap that was happening in Basterd, it's possible that his lack of motivation was through that as well. So I'd much rather lynch one of the above mentioned four.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 09 2013 22:22 GMT
#1848
I'd say pretty much everyone posting right now is town. Scum waiting to see what town thinks then they will start cropping up later to alter opinions. I did a 360 on my johnny read and hope I don't regret it later.
I come in for the scraps
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 09 2013 22:27 GMT
#1849
What changed your mind about me?
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 09 2013 22:27 GMT
#1850
On July 10 2013 07:22 Xatalos wrote:
DI still seems to fit better as scum (meta) but considering all the crap that was happening in Basterd, it's possible that his lack of motivation was through that as well. So I'd much rather lynch one of the above mentioned four.
DI popped in at multiple times, but contributed nothing and didn't make an attempt to. Specifically, he popped in towards the end of D1, when he was a viable lynch candidate, but didn't put any effort into doing thangs and then dipped out again.

The justice stuff recently may be tied to Basterd, and he may have been less motivated to play than normal, but the specific behavior at the end of D1 seems far, far, far more likely to indicate scum DI than anything else.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 09 2013 22:27 GMT
#1851
A 180 or a 360?
Fe fi fo fum.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 09 2013 22:28 GMT
#1852
+ Show Spoiler +
Russian<I must go to grieve the untimely death of the agent Mepak_Ziph. He was a good friend, and... {sound of shouting outside, engines rumbling... Whirls around in chair, looking out window. Sees a large run-down older make Mercedes Unimog smash through the guard gate, full of men in turbans toting AK-47 carbines, rapidly being gunned to death by the sentry defenses.} (Curses loudly) I DO NOT NEED THIS NOW!>

Shouts of

"إلى أسفل مع الطغيان! الله أكبر!"

Made it to his office just before the explosions that put out his windows, coming from the facility.

It was utterly destroyed. Afghanistan was not a wise place to set up shop, especially for Russians.

But he survived.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 09 2013 22:28 GMT
#1853
On July 10 2013 07:27 austinmcc wrote:
A 180 or a 360?


360. Taking a fresh approach to him, definitely not confirmed town by any means
I come in for the scraps
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 09 2013 22:29 GMT
#1854
Good night now.

If you feel the urge to nuke, I see zero sense in nuking someone other than Ace/austin/Abenson/MajuGarzett/DI/Stutters695/Ghost_403. Maybe jampidampi. DI might be okay just to save our time for someone we could actually pressure. Saving some nukes might be a good idea too.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 09 2013 22:30 GMT
#1855
On July 10 2013 07:27 johnnywup wrote:
What changed your mind about me?


Probably the most important talking point is your nuking of Tang. He was by no means a popular nuke choice and I feel it was genuine in how you approached it, nuking your own scumread instead of town sentiment.
I come in for the scraps
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 09 2013 22:36 GMT
#1856
On July 10 2013 07:29 Xatalos wrote:
Good night now.

If you feel the urge to nuke, I see zero sense in nuking someone other than Ace/austin/Abenson/MajuGarzett/DI/Stutters695/Ghost_403. Maybe jampidampi. DI might be okay just to save our time for someone we could actually pressure. Saving some nukes might be a good idea too.
With the caveat that holy balls nobody should be nuking at the start of the day when I believe everything we've seen has to be launched with more than 12 hours remaining.

That's a BOATLOAD of discussion that might influence nuke targeting. Not only that, but I see...8 names on that list? Which is more than 1/3 the playerbase.

Go back to the townie posts and not the "Hey guys, prematurely fire nukes into this enormous list kkthx" posts.
Fe fi fo fum.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 09 2013 22:38 GMT
#1857
First off, I want to make explain why I think this is an exceptionally odd set of kills.

Why Rayn is an odd kill. There's 0 reason for town to vigilante Rayn here; it could just be bad vigilante play, but I don't think it is. The shot should be claimed before hand, first off, and second Rayn is in a situation where he needs to be able to explain shit fully. When a guy who has a supertown read for most of day 1 to catch a bunch of flak, especially on for standard policy lynch reasons, to be NKd is an exceptionally odd choice as he provides huge potential to allow for lurking/non-constructive activity. He's probably the best player in the game (except for maybe Ace), which makes the NK semi-expected but in this situation isn't one where (as scum) I'd be pro-NK on Rayn.

The MZ kill is odd for different reasons. From what I know, MZ is a decent town player; I think BC respects him to some extent. But if you're killing Rayn, there's very little reason to NK MZ. You're limiting the NK implication backlash solely to Ace and austin. Of those two, Austin looks far FAR more like scum to be because of the strong similarities between PTP and this game.

All that said, this set of NKs also implicates WoS. The only 'productive' thing that WoS had done so far was redirect the nuke from MZ to NG. I need to think on this more and I need to go back and filter myself some. I think I've been on the right track just have gotten off on little minor things that aren't important.
I have a huge important test that I must pass so I'll be back tomorrow night and (possibly) later tonight some.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 09 2013 22:44 GMT
#1858
Alright, I'm back and rearing to post. My top 3 scum reads are:
jampidampi
Ace
VayneAuthority

Gonna make a post explaining why in just a bit.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 09 2013 22:50 GMT
#1859
Get your vote off of me Xata. I was wrong about rayne being scum, but still right that his reasoning was flawed. His role confirms that he was lying about the nuke. But we're passed that now.

First order of business is Dandel. Above all else we're getting rid of him today.

##vote Dandel Ion
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
July 09 2013 23:31 GMT
#1860
On July 10 2013 07:50 Ace wrote:
Get your vote off of me Xata. I was wrong about rayne being scum, but still right that his reasoning was flawed. His role confirms that he was lying about the nuke. But we're passed that now.

First order of business is Dandel. Above all else we're getting rid of him today.

##vote Dandel Ion


Noooo ace don't make me a liar
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
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