If that's your case, then do you think I'm scum. From what I recall I was one of the first, the first in fact I think, to call the DI lynch a mislynch by the vote look. I also was quick to jump onto ON and then quick to jump off. From what I remember, I was the only one talking about the claim (and being too odd to be scum). I'm just not seeing how your points make Rayn scum but me not scum.

geript

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July 09 2013 04:32 GMT

#1533

On July 09 2013 12:56 Ace wrote:
Just because I didn't call you out doesn't mean I don't think you are possibly scum.

rayne never moved his vote off of ON which I think paints him in a bad light.

Why did you jump off and back on anyway? Also why were you never voting for DI? Your vote started on CA because you thought DI was a possible mislynch wagon and called CA fluff. If you read what Dandel posted to start the game why dont you consider him fluff too?

We to bed around 4 am and woke up around noon or 1. Most of the votes had shifted on by then and it looked like a town lurker mislynch. I see little point in not aiming for someone who has a good shot a being scum. CA looked to have the greatest chance for scum lurker. The difference between DI and CA is that DI is just fluff. CA has more scummy fluff in that he complains about the thread status without doing anything about it. His process of filtering by sign up list makes little sense as town as he doesn't get any sense of the thread in context. His reads are haphazard at best. In short, DI looked like a true lurker crapshoot and the vote count made it likely that he's town especially since everyone was seemingly happy to lynch him. Comparatively, CA has done nothing and gotten only modest suspicion at best. That reads to be a far more likely scum hit. Even Alakaslam and WoS look to be better lynches than DI.

geript

10024 Posts

July 09 2013 04:33 GMT

#1534

@ace. Why are you more interested in DI over the other various lurkers?

geript

10024 Posts

July 09 2013 05:02 GMT

#1541

That's actually part of it. I could also see a clear direction from him at points in the last game. This game he has just looked far more aimless to me. Like it doesn't feel like he's trying to solve the game to me. Just that's he's active because he wants to be active but not with a distinct purpose to be active.

geript

10024 Posts

July 09 2013 05:16 GMT

#1545

Not really. I'm conscious of my play differences between games whether or town or scum. Isn't something to read into for me because I don't know him well enough to call him scum or town for that.

geript

10024 Posts

July 09 2013 05:20 GMT

#1547

On July 09 2013 14:16 Chezinu wrote:
*pushes geript off the psychiatrist couch and proceeds to lay down*

It all started day 1. I came to realize who I was or rather I thought it was who I was. I had this feeling as if I were dead, not that I knew what that would be like...

*Pushes the psychiatrist off of his chair and stabs him to death before assuming his chair and position*
And this feeling like you were dead... What exactly did that feel like to you?

geript

10024 Posts

July 09 2013 05:27 GMT

#1550

And that gloom... Did it make you want to do anything? Do you have any thoughts of harming yourself or others?

geript

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July 09 2013 05:34 GMT

#1555

And from what you've said before, your life's theme is to win with style. Your style is undeniable, but the winning part is currently in question. Could you perhaps explain to me how you plan to win and what stylish hat will you be wearing at the time?

geript

10024 Posts

July 09 2013 05:50 GMT

#1560

On July 09 2013 14:41 Chezinu wrote:

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oh, I getz a hat! I would choose the otter-fur hat. Cause you know, winter is coming. I win by eliminating the opposition! To do that I shall...

I has no nukes... uh getz people to vote the bad guys? or perhaps you can provide me with some nukes that I could fire at the bad guys?

These bad people... How do you find them? Do you know who these bad guys are? Who would you fire these hot potato nukes at?

geript

10024 Posts

July 09 2013 12:16 GMT

#1635

To be honest, I'd much rather see a full reads list from him. He's done little and less all game.

geript

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July 09 2013 12:30 GMT

#1643

On July 09 2013 21:20 Ace wrote:

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you know I dont do this. I've addressed this in THIS game and in every game I've ever played on this site. Stop it.

I don't care what you've addressed where. That doesn't magically make you solve the game any faster. You have to admit to lurking. You have to admit to not pressuring many players. You have to admit to not being forthright with many (if any) reads. Right now you're just and only concerned with how the ON lynch implicates Rayn. That's fine, but you haven't done anything with it at all since last night and your position on it isn't anything more than it was last night (which wasn't that much in the first place). It's not convincing anyone if you don't do shit with it.

geript

10024 Posts

July 09 2013 13:03 GMT

#1666

@Xatalos. I wouldn't be so hasty to paint Rayn green and Ace red. I think it's possible that it's the other way around and still quite possible that they're both green.

geript

10024 Posts

July 09 2013 13:19 GMT

#1680

Hey Xatalos. I have to disagree with you. At the time, I thought Rayn launched the nuke (obviously). I agree that his actions on congruous and aren't making much sense. He hasn't given any real reasons for why MZ over half a billion other players. Much like Chezinu, he hasn't given any reason for firing it as early as he did either. Neither do I see a town motivation in "looking for a claimer" for your own damn nuke.

geript

10024 Posts

July 09 2013 13:25 GMT

#1685

On July 09 2013 22:21 Xatalos wrote:

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Wtf? He didn't launch the nuke, so how could he explain his reasons for targeting Meapak? Are you even reading now?

I don't believe that he didn't launch the nuke. I'm not seeing a real masterplan behind fake claiming a nuke. As a matter of fact, just after it was launched I was all like "Yo rayn was that you?" Because rayn is that type of player to do shit like that.

geript

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July 09 2013 13:36 GMT

#1690

1. We don't know how all the specific nukes are required to be launched. I highly doubt all require or trigger off of ##nuke.
2. Rayn does this type of thing as town.
3. Because he wants peoples opinions before the silent nuke gets fired because everyone will be like "Oh silent nuke. Dude must be town."
4. The fact that Rayn notes that he was being setup himself, honestly just seals the deal for me. It's a classic overreaction in that the goes to the next progression but without real follow up once the matter dies.

Quite frankly, Rayn is a "do-er" type of person not a "thinker" like me. You give me a nuke and it will likely end up never being fired (unless deconduo joins the game, then that shit gets fired super fast [j/k{only kinda j/k}]). Rayn would absolutely pull something like this.

geript

10024 Posts

July 09 2013 13:44 GMT

#1691

On July 09 2013 22:11 Xatalos wrote:
1) I do not believe rayn has the capacity to launch a nuke. In that case, he would have surely launched it at Chezinu regardless of his alignnment (even as scum it would be stupid to launch at someone else and then claim a bit later).
2) Scum do not act rashly or carelessly, they are careful and serious. This is everything but careful and very risky for little if any gain (as scum). See the point?
3) See above.

We just got out of PTP. I will refute point 2 quite simply. When I ##Mortal Combat Kitaman27 it was completely on whim. It felt like the right play at the time so I just did it. I knew that people wanted him out of the way. I knew that he wasn't scum. I knew that I was catching flak for not voting for austin at the end of day 1 when I had the runs something fierce and just voted on who I thought would be the next target down the line. Was it rash? Yes. Was it well thought out? No. Had I thought about it, I would've likely kept it on hand for later use. Only by sheer unmitigated luck did that shot end up being highly useful as his extra KP was exceptionally important that game. So yes, Scum do thinks rashly and carelessly too.

geript

10024 Posts

July 09 2013 13:52 GMT

#1695

So Ace, other than rayn, who else do you think is scum?

geript

10024 Posts

July 09 2013 14:03 GMT

#1698

On July 09 2013 23:00 Xatalos wrote:
Why don't I ever get KPs? :/

LOL. I never get KP either

Even when I'm scum.

geript

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July 09 2013 14:14 GMT

#1702

On July 09 2013 23:07 Xatalos wrote:

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I didn't say that scum never act carelessly. That's just one example from a game where the scumteam was overall very careful and not involved in noticeable incidents (except the Mortal Kombat and austin at endgame, but then he had already scumclaimed). And I have never been rash as scum, nor anyone in my teams (maybe excluding Acro's fakeclaim in GoT or jaybrundage's shenanigans in Dessert Mini). Point is, it's not common compared to townish rashness.

Ok, Here's another one then. I bussed my own teammate in LXI in endgame. The plan was for him to do the bussing. I looked at the votes and made the instinctive move without fully thinking through why it's the right move and retconned my actions in as appropriate once I understood why I had that instinctive move. People make moves. It happens. Just because you are more frozen by fear as scum doesn't mean that that feeling applies equally to everyone everywhere.

geript

10024 Posts

July 09 2013 19:08 GMT

#1748

On July 10 2013 04:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Lying is not necessarily bad. I lie more as town than i do as mafia.

Sure. Lying is not necessarily bad. But it's god awful to be caught in a lie. I really wish there had been some nukes launched at multiple people this night.