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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 07 2013 20:31 GMT
#561
On July 08 2013 05:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 05:26 geript wrote:
I don't think I've ever seen him make sense as either alignment. But I think it was a newbie game and another game or two (as town) where he came off as super arrogant. I don't see that at all here. I also don't see how his conspiracy theories make him town. Normally, I would agree that that type of this tends to be a newbie town tell, but I don't see any real convoluted aspect to them. His thought process is just so intentionally murky to me that I don't like it in addition to the random meta bonus. But eh,

Can we at least both agree that NirvanaMonkey should be lynched if he doesn't do shit other than his one previous post?


I play differently in every single game so meta'ing me with a pretty bad choice. I will agree that the posted you quoted is intentionally scummy, I was trying to bait scum into trying to make some shitty case on it but I don't really think you're scum so it didn't work that well.

Stop wasting your time and my time then. Just scum hunt and make your thought process clear. Who are your top scum targets and why?
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 07 2013 20:31 GMT
#562
I guess it's time to do this.

##Unvote

Not completely sure yet about who we should lynch instead.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 07 2013 20:32 GMT
#563
On July 08 2013 05:26 geript wrote:
I don't think I've ever seen him make sense as either alignment. But I think it was a newbie game and another game or two (as town) where he came off as super arrogant. I don't see that at all here. I also don't see how his conspiracy theories make him town. Normally, I would agree that that type of this tends to be a newbie town tell, but I don't see any real convoluted aspect to them. His thought process is just so intentionally murky to me that I don't like it in addition to the random meta bonus. But eh,

Can we at least both agree that NirvanaMonkey should be lynched if he doesn't do shit other than his one previous post?

Bolded: Sure.

In other news, i kinda know how to read vayne, to some extent. In basterd he only got lynched because it seemed like he was not caring about the lynch on D1 when in fact he had to go (and he didn't tell us). Other than that he looked pretty town. Not sure if he is town and sure he is worth questioning, but he should prove himself in a way or another. atm i am leaning town on him.

Xatalos, you can drop Abenson for now. It's the fact that he ninjavoted Johnny. Do you think a relatively new(?) scum player would ninjavote someone when having only 2 posts that do not say anything? I don't.

Also why does noone think ON is scum. His filter is full of shit imo.
table for two on a tv tray
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 07 2013 20:32 GMT
#564
geript care to look at one of my latest posts directed at you?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 07 2013 20:32 GMT
#565
On July 08 2013 05:31 Xatalos wrote:
I guess it's time to do this.

##Unvote

Not completely sure yet about who we should lynch instead.

Who's on your "yeah I could lynch that guy" list?
Nirvana.Gabo
Profile Joined July 2013
Canada34 Posts
July 07 2013 20:34 GMT
#566
On July 08 2013 04:34 Onegu wrote:
Sleeping soon so if there are any questions in the next half hour or so I will be around.

The next thing is on Alakaslam, his activeity level has me feeling scummy. Compared to his last game where he would post about his dinner, add in the fact he watched 2 lurkers make it to endgame.

The chez situation really needs to be explored more, and if he refuses to give answers he needs to be lynched. Just the way he admited he launched it but didnt explain why gives me a really big scum vibe, and he really doesnt add much productivity to the thread either.

##VOTE: Chezinu


There's no real way to read chezinu. He's always like this. In fact, you speculate this earlier:

On July 07 2013 15:49 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 13:37 johnnywup wrote:
On July 07 2013 11:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 07 2013 10:30 geript wrote:
On July 07 2013 10:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
But honey I didn't make it obvious! How did you figure me out?

Just tell me who is on your scum team.

Well since you caught me I feel it's only fair.
It's me, Ace, SnB, CaucasianAsian, and of course I'm bussing johnnywup.

could you please stop shitting up this thread?


And this post is doing what? I really dont like most of your posts, that being said Im not convinced you are scum yet.

Is chezinu just crazy and will be like this all game?



Chezinu is just a crazy guy. Don't try to get all up on some high horse like you're trying to push a real lynch. You just want to lynch chezinu because he's acting like chezinu? No, even then you'd have other things to say about other players. You are scum who is trying to look productive by attacking a guy who's just like insane. Nice try but it's not gonna fly, brother.

##vote Onegu
100% in their own words, seriously
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 07 2013 20:34 GMT
#567
I think I answered the point on Onegu. His play just looks slightly different to that of the NMM game I hosted and I'd rather have more time to see his thought process as he was pretty obviously scum in that game.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 07 2013 20:35 GMT
#568
On July 08 2013 05:31 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 05:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 08 2013 05:26 geript wrote:
I don't think I've ever seen him make sense as either alignment. But I think it was a newbie game and another game or two (as town) where he came off as super arrogant. I don't see that at all here. I also don't see how his conspiracy theories make him town. Normally, I would agree that that type of this tends to be a newbie town tell, but I don't see any real convoluted aspect to them. His thought process is just so intentionally murky to me that I don't like it in addition to the random meta bonus. But eh,

Can we at least both agree that NirvanaMonkey should be lynched if he doesn't do shit other than his one previous post?


I play differently in every single game so meta'ing me with a pretty bad choice. I will agree that the posted you quoted is intentionally scummy, I was trying to bait scum into trying to make some shitty case on it but I don't really think you're scum so it didn't work that well.

Stop wasting your time and my time then. Just scum hunt and make your thought process clear. Who are your top scum targets and why?


Right now im looking at johnny and Caucasian. I already placed my vote/reasoning on johnny if you filter me so now to caucasian...

filler post then the old I'm drunk thing so I can't help town.

When do drunk posts ever turn back town unless it's like BH? It's such a cop out. If you're drunk don't post or at least try harder then that.

If he's town I really have no regrets as he is giving us nothing to work with
I come in for the scraps
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 07 2013 20:36 GMT
#569
On July 08 2013 05:34 Nirvana.Gabo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 04:34 Onegu wrote:
Sleeping soon so if there are any questions in the next half hour or so I will be around.

The next thing is on Alakaslam, his activeity level has me feeling scummy. Compared to his last game where he would post about his dinner, add in the fact he watched 2 lurkers make it to endgame.

The chez situation really needs to be explored more, and if he refuses to give answers he needs to be lynched. Just the way he admited he launched it but didnt explain why gives me a really big scum vibe, and he really doesnt add much productivity to the thread either.

##VOTE: Chezinu


There's no real way to read chezinu. He's always like this. In fact, you speculate this earlier:

Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 15:49 Onegu wrote:
On July 07 2013 13:37 johnnywup wrote:
On July 07 2013 11:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 07 2013 10:30 geript wrote:
On July 07 2013 10:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
But honey I didn't make it obvious! How did you figure me out?

Just tell me who is on your scum team.

Well since you caught me I feel it's only fair.
It's me, Ace, SnB, CaucasianAsian, and of course I'm bussing johnnywup.

could you please stop shitting up this thread?


And this post is doing what? I really dont like most of your posts, that being said Im not convinced you are scum yet.

Is chezinu just crazy and will be like this all game?



Chezinu is just a crazy guy. Don't try to get all up on some high horse like you're trying to push a real lynch. You just want to lynch chezinu because he's acting like chezinu? No, even then you'd have other things to say about other players. You are scum who is trying to look productive by attacking a guy who's just like insane. Nice try but it's not gonna fly, brother.

##vote Onegu

How does this shit make him scum as opposed to just a new player?
Nirvana.Gabo
Profile Joined July 2013
Canada34 Posts
July 07 2013 20:37 GMT
#570
On July 08 2013 05:36 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 05:34 Nirvana.Gabo wrote:
On July 08 2013 04:34 Onegu wrote:
Sleeping soon so if there are any questions in the next half hour or so I will be around.

The next thing is on Alakaslam, his activeity level has me feeling scummy. Compared to his last game where he would post about his dinner, add in the fact he watched 2 lurkers make it to endgame.

The chez situation really needs to be explored more, and if he refuses to give answers he needs to be lynched. Just the way he admited he launched it but didnt explain why gives me a really big scum vibe, and he really doesnt add much productivity to the thread either.

##VOTE: Chezinu


There's no real way to read chezinu. He's always like this. In fact, you speculate this earlier:

On July 07 2013 15:49 Onegu wrote:
On July 07 2013 13:37 johnnywup wrote:
On July 07 2013 11:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 07 2013 10:30 geript wrote:
On July 07 2013 10:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
But honey I didn't make it obvious! How did you figure me out?

Just tell me who is on your scum team.

Well since you caught me I feel it's only fair.
It's me, Ace, SnB, CaucasianAsian, and of course I'm bussing johnnywup.

could you please stop shitting up this thread?


And this post is doing what? I really dont like most of your posts, that being said Im not convinced you are scum yet.

Is chezinu just crazy and will be like this all game?



Chezinu is just a crazy guy. Don't try to get all up on some high horse like you're trying to push a real lynch. You just want to lynch chezinu because he's acting like chezinu? No, even then you'd have other things to say about other players. You are scum who is trying to look productive by attacking a guy who's just like insane. Nice try but it's not gonna fly, brother.

##vote Onegu

How does this shit make him scum as opposed to just a new player?


He asked if Chezinu is, and I quote, "just crazy"
100% in their own words, seriously
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 07 2013 20:37 GMT
#571
On July 08 2013 05:32 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 05:31 Xatalos wrote:
I guess it's time to do this.

##Unvote

Not completely sure yet about who we should lynch instead.

Who's on your "yeah I could lynch that guy" list?


Let's put it into two categories for now.

Priority (today): austinmcc, Onegu
Secondary (D2/D3 depending on what happens): Chezinu, WoS, Dandel Ion, TanGeng, Abenson

Probably like that. Gotta reread stuff though.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 07 2013 20:38 GMT
#572
On July 08 2013 05:35 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 05:31 geript wrote:
On July 08 2013 05:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 08 2013 05:26 geript wrote:
I don't think I've ever seen him make sense as either alignment. But I think it was a newbie game and another game or two (as town) where he came off as super arrogant. I don't see that at all here. I also don't see how his conspiracy theories make him town. Normally, I would agree that that type of this tends to be a newbie town tell, but I don't see any real convoluted aspect to them. His thought process is just so intentionally murky to me that I don't like it in addition to the random meta bonus. But eh,

Can we at least both agree that NirvanaMonkey should be lynched if he doesn't do shit other than his one previous post?


I play differently in every single game so meta'ing me with a pretty bad choice. I will agree that the posted you quoted is intentionally scummy, I was trying to bait scum into trying to make some shitty case on it but I don't really think you're scum so it didn't work that well.

Stop wasting your time and my time then. Just scum hunt and make your thought process clear. Who are your top scum targets and why?


Right now im looking at johnny and Caucasian. I already placed my vote/reasoning on johnny if you filter me so now to caucasian...

filler post then the old I'm drunk thing so I can't help town.

When do drunk posts ever turn back town unless it's like BH? It's such a cop out. If you're drunk don't post or at least try harder then that.

If he's town I really have no regrets as he is giving us nothing to work with

Two people who already been fingered at some point? Really that's all you've got? Like what do you think of M_Z, Austin, OriginalName and Onegu.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 07 2013 20:40 GMT
#573
On July 08 2013 05:37 Nirvana.Gabo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 05:36 geript wrote:
On July 08 2013 05:34 Nirvana.Gabo wrote:
On July 08 2013 04:34 Onegu wrote:
Sleeping soon so if there are any questions in the next half hour or so I will be around.

The next thing is on Alakaslam, his activeity level has me feeling scummy. Compared to his last game where he would post about his dinner, add in the fact he watched 2 lurkers make it to endgame.

The chez situation really needs to be explored more, and if he refuses to give answers he needs to be lynched. Just the way he admited he launched it but didnt explain why gives me a really big scum vibe, and he really doesnt add much productivity to the thread either.

##VOTE: Chezinu


There's no real way to read chezinu. He's always like this. In fact, you speculate this earlier:

On July 07 2013 15:49 Onegu wrote:
On July 07 2013 13:37 johnnywup wrote:
On July 07 2013 11:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 07 2013 10:30 geript wrote:
On July 07 2013 10:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
But honey I didn't make it obvious! How did you figure me out?

Just tell me who is on your scum team.

Well since you caught me I feel it's only fair.
It's me, Ace, SnB, CaucasianAsian, and of course I'm bussing johnnywup.

could you please stop shitting up this thread?


And this post is doing what? I really dont like most of your posts, that being said Im not convinced you are scum yet.

Is chezinu just crazy and will be like this all game?



Chezinu is just a crazy guy. Don't try to get all up on some high horse like you're trying to push a real lynch. You just want to lynch chezinu because he's acting like chezinu? No, even then you'd have other things to say about other players. You are scum who is trying to look productive by attacking a guy who's just like insane. Nice try but it's not gonna fly, brother.

##vote Onegu

How does this shit make him scum as opposed to just a new player?


He asked if Chezinu is, and I quote, "just crazy"

How does that make him scum though? I read the quotes. As a new player how is he supposed to know if Chez is, you know Chez, or if he's like BC.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 07 2013 20:41 GMT
#574
On July 08 2013 05:34 geript wrote:
I think I answered the point on Onegu. His play just looks slightly different to that of the NMM game I hosted and I'd rather have more time to see his thought process as he was pretty obviously scum in that game.


Hmmm. Well, I guess there's nothing obviously scummy about him so far, but it just feels like a weaker scum player who's posting filler for the sake of posting. Mostly a gutread though.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 07 2013 20:41 GMT
#575
Nirvana.Gabo why is Onegu your target and not me?
table for two on a tv tray
Nirvana.Gabo
Profile Joined July 2013
Canada34 Posts
July 07 2013 20:43 GMT
#576
On July 08 2013 05:40 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 05:37 Nirvana.Gabo wrote:
On July 08 2013 05:36 geript wrote:
On July 08 2013 05:34 Nirvana.Gabo wrote:
On July 08 2013 04:34 Onegu wrote:
Sleeping soon so if there are any questions in the next half hour or so I will be around.

The next thing is on Alakaslam, his activeity level has me feeling scummy. Compared to his last game where he would post about his dinner, add in the fact he watched 2 lurkers make it to endgame.

The chez situation really needs to be explored more, and if he refuses to give answers he needs to be lynched. Just the way he admited he launched it but didnt explain why gives me a really big scum vibe, and he really doesnt add much productivity to the thread either.

##VOTE: Chezinu


There's no real way to read chezinu. He's always like this. In fact, you speculate this earlier:

On July 07 2013 15:49 Onegu wrote:
On July 07 2013 13:37 johnnywup wrote:
On July 07 2013 11:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 07 2013 10:30 geript wrote:
On July 07 2013 10:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
But honey I didn't make it obvious! How did you figure me out?

Just tell me who is on your scum team.

Well since you caught me I feel it's only fair.
It's me, Ace, SnB, CaucasianAsian, and of course I'm bussing johnnywup.

could you please stop shitting up this thread?


And this post is doing what? I really dont like most of your posts, that being said Im not convinced you are scum yet.

Is chezinu just crazy and will be like this all game?



Chezinu is just a crazy guy. Don't try to get all up on some high horse like you're trying to push a real lynch. You just want to lynch chezinu because he's acting like chezinu? No, even then you'd have other things to say about other players. You are scum who is trying to look productive by attacking a guy who's just like insane. Nice try but it's not gonna fly, brother.

##vote Onegu

How does this shit make him scum as opposed to just a new player?


He asked if Chezinu is, and I quote, "just crazy"

How does that make him scum though? I read the quotes. As a new player how is he supposed to know if Chez is, you know Chez, or if he's like BC.


When you played your first (town) game with chez you knew or found out right away what kind of player he was, and didn't waste your time on him. I was the same way. Any town player who sees someone acting so clearly insane and anti-town tries to look for an explanation, besides just "he is scum" because as a town player you don't trust anything or anyone. You don't trust the obvious. You see someone acting like Chez and you don't think "ah, this veteran is obvious scum" because that's not how you think. No, you see him acting that way and you ask "why", and not just rhetorically. You ask the thread. You find out he's insane. And you act on it.

That's not what Onegu has done here.
100% in their own words, seriously
Nirvana.Gabo
Profile Joined July 2013
Canada34 Posts
July 07 2013 20:43 GMT
#577
On July 08 2013 05:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Nirvana.Gabo why is Onegu your target and not me?


I happened to notice Onegu's posts in the past few pages and I didn't notice yours.
100% in their own words, seriously
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 07 2013 20:45 GMT
#578
On July 08 2013 05:43 Nirvana.Gabo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 05:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Nirvana.Gabo why is Onegu your target and not me?


I happened to notice Onegu's posts in the past few pages and I didn't notice yours.

Ahh so you don't read the whole thread and just vote reactionary?
Is this the behaviour you are going to follow the whole game?
table for two on a tv tray
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 07 2013 20:47 GMT
#579
On July 08 2013 05:43 Nirvana.Gabo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 05:40 geript wrote:
On July 08 2013 05:37 Nirvana.Gabo wrote:
On July 08 2013 05:36 geript wrote:
On July 08 2013 05:34 Nirvana.Gabo wrote:
On July 08 2013 04:34 Onegu wrote:
Sleeping soon so if there are any questions in the next half hour or so I will be around.

The next thing is on Alakaslam, his activeity level has me feeling scummy. Compared to his last game where he would post about his dinner, add in the fact he watched 2 lurkers make it to endgame.

The chez situation really needs to be explored more, and if he refuses to give answers he needs to be lynched. Just the way he admited he launched it but didnt explain why gives me a really big scum vibe, and he really doesnt add much productivity to the thread either.

##VOTE: Chezinu


There's no real way to read chezinu. He's always like this. In fact, you speculate this earlier:

On July 07 2013 15:49 Onegu wrote:
On July 07 2013 13:37 johnnywup wrote:
On July 07 2013 11:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 07 2013 10:30 geript wrote:
On July 07 2013 10:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
But honey I didn't make it obvious! How did you figure me out?

Just tell me who is on your scum team.

Well since you caught me I feel it's only fair.
It's me, Ace, SnB, CaucasianAsian, and of course I'm bussing johnnywup.

could you please stop shitting up this thread?


And this post is doing what? I really dont like most of your posts, that being said Im not convinced you are scum yet.

Is chezinu just crazy and will be like this all game?



Chezinu is just a crazy guy. Don't try to get all up on some high horse like you're trying to push a real lynch. You just want to lynch chezinu because he's acting like chezinu? No, even then you'd have other things to say about other players. You are scum who is trying to look productive by attacking a guy who's just like insane. Nice try but it's not gonna fly, brother.

##vote Onegu

How does this shit make him scum as opposed to just a new player?


He asked if Chezinu is, and I quote, "just crazy"

How does that make him scum though? I read the quotes. As a new player how is he supposed to know if Chez is, you know Chez, or if he's like BC.


When you played your first (town) game with chez you knew or found out right away what kind of player he was, and didn't waste your time on him. I was the same way. Any town player who sees someone acting so clearly insane and anti-town tries to look for an explanation, besides just "he is scum" because as a town player you don't trust anything or anyone. You don't trust the obvious. You see someone acting like Chez and you don't think "ah, this veteran is obvious scum" because that's not how you think. No, you see him acting that way and you ask "why", and not just rhetorically. You ask the thread. You find out he's insane. And you act on it.

That's not what Onegu has done here.

My first (and only) game with Chez was LX where I went crazy and was trying to get myself lynched instead of Chez (because I thought he was town day vig for absolutely no good reason other than I thought DrH/BH were super nutso scum. You're applying how you would act as a newb to another person and that just doesn't work as a scum tell whatsoever because Onegu isn't you. Don't apply general vet actions to newbs in general because a vast majority of newbs don't play like vets for obvious reasons.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 07 2013 20:49 GMT
#580
So I repeat, how does Onegu's response actually make him scum because he's all like "This dude crazy?" If anything, to me that's far more of a town tell to ask about advice on other players you're not familiar with especially when the player in question is a vet. So how do you get Onegu being scum out of this interaction?
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