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I'll go ahead and vote austinmcc now.
##Vote austinmcc
He's been basically just asking (filler) questions and not scumhunting or showing effort so far. At least he's less lurky than in PTP, but that's not a hard feat, and it's still not even close to how I remember his townie self. Just comparing his town meta to this game (or PTP) makes it feel like he has to be scum or 3rd party etc. I didn't push this stance hard enough in PTP, but I'm not going to repeat the same mistake now - unless he starts appearing townish ASAP.
geript, you still want to lynch WoS or whom?
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On July 08 2013 05:51 Xatalos wrote:
I'll go ahead and vote austinmcc now.
##Vote austinmcc
He's been basically just asking (filler) questions and not scumhunting or showing effort so far. At least he's less lurky than in PTP, but that's not a hard feat, and it's still not even close to how I remember his townie self. Just comparing his town meta to this game (or PTP) makes it feel like he has to be scum or 3rd party etc. I didn't push this stance hard enough in PTP, but I'm not going to repeat the same mistake now - unless he starts appearing townish ASAP.
geript, you still want to lynch WoS or whom? What is my town meta? More specifically, my town meta in a large game?
Also, do you have interest in the answers to the questions that I have asked, but have not gotten answers to?
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WoS is on my lynchable list. I think between me and rayn we should be able to get a decent read on him afaik we've both played a number of games with him.
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austin, geript, xata, and anyone else who asked me a question, I'm still here. I was trying to write a case on rayn but I was finally forced to admit that stupidity is not a scumtell and there's really no logical evidence yet that he's scum. I am in no way certain he's town, but right now I can't in good faith write a case on him that would convince me if I was an objective observer. Perhaps in a day things will clear up but for now he's null.
I'm gonna go answer your questions now.
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On July 08 2013 05:56 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2013 05:51 Xatalos wrote:
I'll go ahead and vote austinmcc now.
##Vote austinmcc
He's been basically just asking (filler) questions and not scumhunting or showing effort so far. At least he's less lurky than in PTP, but that's not a hard feat, and it's still not even close to how I remember his townie self. Just comparing his town meta to this game (or PTP) makes it feel like he has to be scum or 3rd party etc. I didn't push this stance hard enough in PTP, but I'm not going to repeat the same mistake now - unless he starts appearing townish ASAP.
geript, you still want to lynch WoS or whom? What is my town meta? More specifically, my town meta in a large game? Also, do you have interest in the answers to the questions that I have asked, but have not gotten answers to?
Why do you care more about your town meta than scum hunting?
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On July 08 2013 05:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2013 05:43 Nirvana.Gabo wrote:On July 08 2013 05:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Nirvana.Gabo why is Onegu your target and not me? I happened to notice Onegu's posts in the past few pages and I didn't notice yours. Ahh so you don't read the whole thread and just vote reactionary? Is this the behaviour you are going to follow the whole game?
I didn't say I didn't read your posts noob
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On July 08 2013 05:58 Nirvana.Gabo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2013 05:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 08 2013 05:43 Nirvana.Gabo wrote:On July 08 2013 05:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Nirvana.Gabo why is Onegu your target and not me? I happened to notice Onegu's posts in the past few pages and I didn't notice yours. Ahh so you don't read the whole thread and just vote reactionary? Is this the behaviour you are going to follow the whole game? I didn't say I didn't read your posts noob
Now you are making zero sense. Elaborate please.
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On July 08 2013 05:57 geript wrote:
Why do you care more about your town meta than scum hunting?
On July 08 2013 05:51 Xatalos wrote:
I'll go ahead and vote austinmcc now.
##Vote austinmcc
He's been basically just asking (filler) questions and not scumhunting or showing effort so far. At least he's less lurky than in PTP, but that's not a hard feat, and it's still not even close to how I remember his townie self. Just comparing his town meta to this game (or PTP) makes it feel like he has to be scum or 3rd party etc. I didn't push this stance hard enough in PTP, but I'm not going to repeat the same mistake now - unless he starts appearing townish ASAP.
geript, you still want to lynch WoS or whom? Mainly because I've not been saying anything, but been seeing a couple posts saying I'm not playing like my normal town self. Add the vote and his reasoning for it, and I care about the answers to the questions I asked, given the bolded bit.
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Austin can you say something that helps us finding scum?
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On July 08 2013 06:02 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2013 05:57 geript wrote:
Why do you care more about your town meta than scum hunting? Show nested quote +On July 08 2013 05:51 Xatalos wrote:
I'll go ahead and vote austinmcc now.
##Vote austinmcc
He's been basically just asking (filler) questions and not scumhunting or showing effort so far. At least he's less lurky than in PTP, but that's not a hard feat, and it's still not even close to how I remember his townie self. Just comparing his town meta to this game (or PTP) makes it feel like he has to be scum or 3rd party etc. I didn't push this stance hard enough in PTP, but I'm not going to repeat the same mistake now - unless he starts appearing townish ASAP.
geript, you still want to lynch WoS or whom? Mainly because I've not been saying anything, but been seeing a couple posts saying I'm not playing like my normal town self. Add the vote and his reasoning for it, and I care about the answers to the questions I asked, given the bolded bit.
But he's a dead man walking, why do you care about his reasoning about thinking you're scum? Do you think he's scum? Plus, since he's got a nuke headed towards him why are you more concerned with his thoughts on you being anti-town versus actually trying to find other scum?
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On July 08 2013 05:56 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2013 05:51 Xatalos wrote:
I'll go ahead and vote austinmcc now.
##Vote austinmcc
He's been basically just asking (filler) questions and not scumhunting or showing effort so far. At least he's less lurky than in PTP, but that's not a hard feat, and it's still not even close to how I remember his townie self. Just comparing his town meta to this game (or PTP) makes it feel like he has to be scum or 3rd party etc. I didn't push this stance hard enough in PTP, but I'm not going to repeat the same mistake now - unless he starts appearing townish ASAP.
geript, you still want to lynch WoS or whom? What is my town meta? More specifically, my town meta in a large game? Also, do you have interest in the answers to the questions that I have asked, but have not gotten answers to?
Paranoia Mafia. That's the only game where we've played together as town so far, I think.
Actually I suspected you there for some time (role-related stuff) but I didn't think your overall posting was scummy. In fact, I mentioned at several points how townish your posting was, and ultimately I came to the right and simple conclusion that you were indeed town.
I can't say I get any of that same feeling in this game so far though.
What does your last sentence mean?
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On July 08 2013 05:38 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2013 05:35 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 08 2013 05:31 geript wrote:On July 08 2013 05:28 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 08 2013 05:26 geript wrote:
I don't think I've ever seen him make sense as either alignment. But I think it was a newbie game and another game or two (as town) where he came off as super arrogant. I don't see that at all here. I also don't see how his conspiracy theories make him town. Normally, I would agree that that type of this tends to be a newbie town tell, but I don't see any real convoluted aspect to them. His thought process is just so intentionally murky to me that I don't like it in addition to the random meta bonus. But eh,
Can we at least both agree that NirvanaMonkey should be lynched if he doesn't do shit other than his one previous post? I play differently in every single game so meta'ing me with a pretty bad choice. I will agree that the posted you quoted is intentionally scummy, I was trying to bait scum into trying to make some shitty case on it but I don't really think you're scum so it didn't work that well. Stop wasting your time and my time then. Just scum hunt and make your thought process clear. Who are your top scum targets and why? Right now im looking at johnny and Caucasian. I already placed my vote/reasoning on johnny if you filter me so now to caucasian... filler post then the old I'm drunk thing so I can't help town. When do drunk posts ever turn back town unless it's like BH? It's such a cop out. If you're drunk don't post or at least try harder then that. If he's town I really have no regrets as he is giving us nothing to work with Two people who already been fingered at some point? Really that's all you've got? Like what do you think of M_Z, Austin, OriginalName and Onegu.
I dont really know what this post means. I was the first person to target johnny and I don't see that much talk about caucasian. I'm not just going to make up reads so yea thats all I got. I gave my opinion on ON, not really concerned with those 3 other players as they haven't said or done anything that sticks out to me yet. M_Z is dead tonight so I dont even see how hes relevant @_@
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On July 08 2013 06:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Austin can you say something that helps us finding scum? Right now?
Super active people need to stop posting so much.
AMG THAT'S NOT SCUMHUNTING?
Nope. Posting so much makes scumhunting harder, makes it more likely people will skim over important things, allows scum to hide, makes people who aren't contributing feel like they don't need to because other people are doing the work.
If you guys calm down a little, finding scum will be easier.
Other than that, I can't tell you anything at the moment, I don't think.
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If MZ does not die to the nuke there is no way he is town.
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Austin what do you think of ON?
Can you give me one good reason why Chezinu would as town nuke Xatalos?
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On July 08 2013 06:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If MZ does not die to the nuke there is no way he is town.
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On July 08 2013 06:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If MZ does not die to the nuke there is no way he is town.
veteran role perhaps? I don't think he's going to live though.
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On July 08 2013 06:08 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2013 06:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Austin can you say something that helps us finding scum? Right now? Super active people need to stop posting so much. AMG THAT'S NOT SCUMHUNTING? Nope. Posting so much makes scumhunting harder, makes it more likely people will skim over important things, allows scum to hide, makes people who aren't contributing feel like they don't need to because other people are doing the work. If you guys calm down a little, finding scum will be easier. Other than that, I can't tell you anything at the moment, I don't think.
That's not exactly reassuring about your alignment... :/
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My answers geript
On July 08 2013 04:46 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2013 03:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
VayneAuthority: hmm tricky one. On one hand his posts feel very natural and open which is good because it means he’s not hiding anything but on the other hand he’s been useless thus far. He’s another one I’m going to have to wait and see on.
Verdict: Null
Austinmcc: need to see some activity bro :/ I liked it when he was posting but now that it slacked off a bit I don’t like the feeling. If Austin comes back I’ll feel much better, if he stays away I’ll start thinking scum.
Verdict: Null
Alakaslam: For all the pregame spam he had he’s been very quiet now that the actual game has started. That coupled with his little martyr post (watch me be scummy by tomorrow morning) tells me that I should fulfill his prophecy.
Verdict: Possible Scum
Raynpelikoneet: lolscum
Verdict: Probably Scum
FirmTofu: said he needed a few minutes to read the thread, never got back.
Verdict: Someone vigi his ass
CaucasianAsian: One post talking about the thread.
Verdict: Someone vigi his ass
Chezinu: possibly town, don’t really feel like arguing with the jubjubs about this one.
Verdict: Possibly Town
Gumshoe: I actually agree with s&b that gumshoe’s constant talk of nukes is odd but I don’t think it’s damning. Aside from the nuke talk I actually didn’t really have any problems with gumshoe.
Verdict: Possible Town
Johnnywup: Really not as bad as people kept making him out to be. Sure his entrance post wasn’t good but he’s obviously trying and does not seem defensive or inherently guilty. He just looks like any regular noob player who rolled town.
Verdict: Probable Town
A few things. 1. Why does Vayne get a null as compared to possible scum for you? Similar to what I said earlier, he feels confident or at least not like he's hiding something. Usually when I'm reading noobs who I've never played with before I try and gauge how they interact with the thread. Vayne felt natural to me. I have him as null because obviously it's D1 and I could be horribly off target but I definitely do not think he'd be a good lynch.2. Considering Austin's similarity between this game and PTP, why are you null on Austin instead of scm leaning? ahh austin is an interesting one, he started off posting well I thought and then went afk. Now as I learned in the PTP game, people go afk for none scummy reasons (it almost lost the scum team the game). Yes, his disappearance looks bad, but it's D1 so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt which is why I put him as null. Now that he's come back and is posting I feel better about him and don't want to kill him. I nuked him in a PYP game for play very similar to this, he was town. 3. Why does Alakaslam's martyring make him look scummy? It's like a preemptive defense that an innocent player would not need. I mean c'mon, would you or I leave the thread and feel the need to defend ourselves in case someone attacked us while we were gone? Townies get called scum all the time, but they have an inherent innocence about their defense because they know the accusations are wrong. Scum know deep down the accusations are right and thus have this inherent guilt. That's why martyring is scummy, it shows that inherent guilt.4. Explain the scum read on Rayn. bleh stupidity isn't a scumtell :/5. Why is FT a good vigi shot especially in comparison to CA? They both have next to no posts and FT had a promise of activity which he never fulfilled. Actually as a note about vigi shots, all the people I mention can get off that list by simply posting. I put people up for vigi shots who were lurking or inactive6. How in the fuck is Chez possible town? This game is practically exactly the same as LX? I called him possible town in a reaction to the people calling for his death. In my mind he's more likely town than scum, especially since he's hinting that he was forced to launch a nuke. I'm really not interested in killing him today. Although you may have a point that I'm missing since I don't remember LX very well (was I even in it?).7. Why would him talking about nukes make Gumshoe non-towny? Why does he get a towny read as compared to a null read for you? When people constantly discuss certain setup aspects it is always odd and that's how I felt about his nuke talk. It doesn't make him non-towny, it's just noteworthy like I said. He gets a green read because I like his posts and I continue to like them since I posted this list8. What was bad about Whoops entrance. How does this noob status make him town instead of some of the other newbs like Alakaslam, Onegu, FirmTofu, etc.? It was awkward and if it had been made by a more experienced player I'd say scummy. However unlike the other people you mentioned, johnny has been attempting to play, defending himself, and providing reads. At least right now with so many lurkers and people like Dandel (who needs to die) running around I feel johnny isn't a good lynch
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On July 08 2013 06:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If MZ does not die to the nuke there is no way he is town.
lol now I want to survive so bad so I can see you try to lynch me.
That'd be cute ^_^
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