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raynpelikoneet
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gumshoe
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gumshoe
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On July 08 2013 03:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: Gumshoe look into maju/chez/originalname. I'll do Maju and original, Chez I wanna talk to though, not gonna comment on him till I get a chance to. | ||
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Nirvana.Gabo
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On July 08 2013 01:08 johnnywup wrote: These are the posts that WoS has made that have any value whatsoever: + Show Spoiler + On July 07 2013 09:03 WaveofShadow wrote: Geript town Gumshoe town Not sure on everyone else yet Be back again sooooooooooooooooooooon On July 07 2013 09:55 WaveofShadow wrote: Nope, not ready to lynch Rayn---I can read him pretty decently for the most part I feel so I'm gonna let him stick around. I remember thinking someone else was pretty scummy actually (and I still think it's MORE likely that Chez is scum than he isn't but whatever)...oh yeah, johnnywup. This is some scummy shit, yo. Like....it's true, but it's such a 'Hey guys, let's be iirends' way of saying it. Also kind of funny is he says he doesn't see any scumtells yet calls everyone scummy. Wat. On July 08 2013 00:04 WaveofShadow wrote: You know what's funny? Both of the people voting for me currently have provided absolutely zero reasoning as to why I'm scum. So essentially...glorified OMGUS, and he's voting me based on that and what might be a shitty gutread. Cool story brehhhh. This is literally the only reason I found for Geript to me voting me. Something fishhyyyy going on. And I don't think it's Geript. EVERYTHING else has been sarcasm/joking/talking about other games/trying to get people to bandwagon me/etc. I'll skip the first post because it's only arguably substantial. I mean, the other two are somewhat large posts (mostly because of the quotes) but all he really says is -quote- "This is some scummy shit, yo. Like....it's true, but it's such a 'Hey guys, let's be iirends' way of saying it. Also kind of funny is he says he doesn't see any scumtells yet calls everyone scummy. Wat." Which doesn't really say anything either. He is obviously wanting to get people against me at this point but isn't willing to come straight out and say I'm scum. And even what he's saying isn't that substantial...he missed what I was saying. "-quote- So essentially...glorified OMGUS, and he's voting me based on that and what might be a shitty gutread. Cool story brehhhh. -quote- This is literally the only reason I found for Geript to me voting me. Something fishhyyyy going on. And I don't think it's Geript." Don't you see it? HE'S NOT SAYING ANYTHING. He skips over everything I said and said "lol so ur calling me bad. ur scum" And he's not speculating on anything either, he's just saying "wow this is fishy! 2 people are voting me!" He hasn't made any post that says anything. This is every single post. He hasn't really done anything this whole game except say I'm scum. And I'm not scum. So the fact that he's focusing every single post on me is more than a little fishy for me. Waveofshadow plays like this as scum. To reference Blazinghand's Venn Diagram: what you're talking about here is orange territory. The distinguishing traits of WoS's play as town have more to do with whether or not he's helpful going forwards rather than whether or not he spends most of D1 joking. | ||
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gumshoe
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On July 08 2013 04:04 Nirvana.Gabo wrote: Waveofshadow plays like this as scum. To reference Blazinghand's Venn Diagram: what you're talking about here is orange territory. The distinguishing traits of WoS's play as town have more to do with whether or not he's helpful going forwards rather than whether or not he spends most of D1 joking. This is a dukenukem themed game with nukes in it. The theme is silly, have several players had fun with it? Yes. Have scum benefited from the joking useless atmosphere/slow start? Most definitely. The joking though should not be used as a means of determining alignment just yet, especially when we have Chez serving as an agent of chaos. (Simply interacting with him bolsters the madness). At the moment day 1 silliness should read null, now though things should get a bit more serious with lynch rounding the corner. | ||
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Onegu
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The next thing is on Alakaslam, his activeity level has me feeling scummy. Compared to his last game where he would post about his dinner, add in the fact he watched 2 lurkers make it to endgame. The chez situation really needs to be explored more, and if he refuses to give answers he needs to be lynched. Just the way he admited he launched it but didnt explain why gives me a really big scum vibe, and he really doesnt add much productivity to the thread either. ##VOTE: Chezinu | ||
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geript
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On July 08 2013 03:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: VayneAuthority: hmm tricky one. On one hand his posts feel very natural and open which is good because it means he’s not hiding anything but on the other hand he’s been useless thus far. He’s another one I’m going to have to wait and see on. Verdict: Null Austinmcc: need to see some activity bro :/ I liked it when he was posting but now that it slacked off a bit I don’t like the feeling. If Austin comes back I’ll feel much better, if he stays away I’ll start thinking scum. Verdict: Null Alakaslam: For all the pregame spam he had he’s been very quiet now that the actual game has started. That coupled with his little martyr post (watch me be scummy by tomorrow morning) tells me that I should fulfill his prophecy. Verdict: Possible Scum Raynpelikoneet: lolscum Verdict: Probably Scum FirmTofu: said he needed a few minutes to read the thread, never got back. Verdict: Someone vigi his ass CaucasianAsian: One post talking about the thread. Verdict: Someone vigi his ass Chezinu: possibly town, don’t really feel like arguing with the jubjubs about this one. Verdict: Possibly Town Gumshoe: I actually agree with s&b that gumshoe’s constant talk of nukes is odd but I don’t think it’s damning. Aside from the nuke talk I actually didn’t really have any problems with gumshoe. Verdict: Possible Town Johnnywup: Really not as bad as people kept making him out to be. Sure his entrance post wasn’t good but he’s obviously trying and does not seem defensive or inherently guilty. He just looks like any regular noob player who rolled town. Verdict: Probable Town A few things. 1. Why does Vayne get a null as compared to possible scum for you? 2. Considering Austin's similarity between this game and PTP, why are you null on Austin instead of scm leaning? 3. Why does Alakaslam's martyring make him look scummy? 4. Explain the scum read on Rayn. 5. Why is FT a good vigi shot especially in comparison to CA? 6. How in the fuck is Chez possible town? This game is practically exactly the same as LX? 7. Why would him talking about nukes make Gumshoe non-towny? Why does he get a towny read as compared to a null read for you? 8. What was bad about Whoops entrance. How does this noob status make him town instead of some of the other newbs like Alakaslam, Onegu, FirmTofu, etc.? | ||
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gumshoe
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On July 08 2013 03:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: Gumshoe look into maju/chez/originalname. Maju is a hard lurker, nothing else to say there. Original is null at the moment. He engaged in the sililiness at the start but not as much as alota people. He seems to be of the opinion that Chez is want to do what Chez is want to do, and we shouldn't really do much about it, which is iffie. In regards to Chez, if he keeps this up and Xata(who I consider town somewhat) actually dies then he needs to be lynched because in this setup he may be an active threat to town even if he isnt scum. That said I would wager more on Chez being third party, most likely not town though. Otherwise hes working against his wincon by all appearances / :. I would still like to try and communicate with him before he dies though. Back to original. Not really, everyone is still freaking out instead of actually trying to get on topic. As such lets return to some very good points: Fake nukes are stupid mmmmmmmmmmmmmmk Nuking people day 1 is stupid mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmk Meapak's is repeating facts because they are generally important mmmmmmmmmmmmmk I dont like this sort of thing where a player preemtively points out whats scummy behaviur. A) Why give scum a road map around your radar? We want to catch scum, not warn them, dont say what stuff you generally find scummy point out whose doing it and why else they're scummy. This post seems to be more about= "hey look at me and how townie my values are" than about catching scum. Null leaning scum. | ||
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geript
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On July 08 2013 02:06 VayneAuthority wrote: Even if johnny does flip town, there's been a lot of decent discussion on it so it gives us a bit to work with as a day 1 lynch. Given how easy the bandwagon was, I would look at the people defending him for absolutely zero reason if he flips town. Scum tryin' to get dat town cred. On the same token we can also analyze the people that are saying one thing and lynching john on the other once the flip occurs. If he flips scum, then there's not much to say. Rayn is probably town if he flips scum for being just about the only person to defend him. This post is god awful and makes me want to lynch Vayne just for it. More on this later. | ||
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gumshoe
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On July 08 2013 04:46 geript wrote: This post is god awful and makes me want to lynch Vayne just for it. More on this later. Geript are you technically sheeping me since I randomly put my vote on Vayne at the start? | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
Two main people have been targeted as lynches today. Johnnywup and rayn both look like easy scum redirects. In other words, relatively weak town members that would be easy to lynch if push comes to shove. I think you should be watching any and all players on those respective wagons and see how their votes change over the course of the thread. I'm having trouble understanding this Chezinu guy. Apparently, he's a troll? I'm unfamiliar with his persona so could anyone explain? I've still gotta read his claim in detail so I'll post more about that later. | ||
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FirmTofu
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On July 08 2013 04:54 FirmTofu wrote: Alright, I've got plenty of time now and I've finally got my computer back. I have skimmed through the thread and I'd just like to point out a few things before posting my mega post(tm). Two main people have been targeted as lynches today. Johnnywup and rayn both look like easy scum redirects. In other words, relatively weak town members that would be easy to lynch if push comes to shove. I think you should be watching any and all players on those respective wagons and see how their votes change over the course of the thread. I'm having trouble understanding this Chezinu guy. Apparently, he's a troll? I'm unfamiliar with his persona so could anyone explain? I've still gotta read his claim in detail so I'll post more about that later. Scratch that. Not a lot of people actually voted for rayn, despite putting on considerable pressure. This is quite interesting and should be noted. | ||
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gumshoe
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On July 08 2013 04:54 FirmTofu wrote: Alright, I've got plenty of time now and I've finally got my computer back. I have skimmed through the thread and I'd just like to point out a few things before posting my mega post(tm). Two main people have been targeted as lynches today. Johnnywup and rayn both look like easy scum redirects. In other words, relatively weak town members that would be easy to lynch if push comes to shove. I think you should be watching any and all players on those respective wagons and see how their votes change over the course of the thread. I'm having trouble understanding this Chezinu guy. Apparently, he's a troll? I'm unfamiliar with his persona so could anyone explain? I've still gotta read his claim in detail so I'll post more about that later. Not a troll, THE troll(pretty much the last person you'd want to give nukes to). | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Also geript is totally town. | ||
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gumshoe
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On July 08 2013 04:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: How do you see me as lynch target FirmTofu? I have zero votes on me. Also geript is totally town. He adressed this. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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geript
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WaveofShadow -- Something's off with WoS. I absolutely hate his town read on Gumshoe when it came out; it just reeks of scum play. I really hate this post + Show Spoiler + On July 07 2013 09:48 WaveofShadow wrote: Also hai guise I back. Did I miss anything important other than what is likely a whole bunch of town players all shitting on each other? On July 07 2013 11:52 WaveofShadow wrote: Well since you caught me I feel it's only fair. It's me, Ace, SnB, CaucasianAsian, and of course I'm bussing johnnywup. I fully expected WoS to respond to this with a joke, but his list is a bit too random. Ace (solid towny), SnB (lurker), CA (scummy lurker), Whoops (stupid town). It feels very much like a "joke" response scum list I gave to Dandel last game. It's neither a true joke, but it's also not moving the game forward. On July 08 2013 00:04 WaveofShadow wrote: You know what's funny? Both of the people voting for me currently have provided absolutely zero reasoning as to why I'm scum. I really hate this defense. He should at least see the irony in that he hasn't provided any reasons for voting Whoops which is pretty much I did for voting him. His filter is just exceptionally aimless and pandering. There's just not any attempt what I I perceive as typical WoS scum hunting. Onegu -- Last night/this morning I was really feeling an Onegu lynch. Something's changed when I read it today. I'm going to shift him back to null after rereading NMM XLIII Vayne -- He's not being arrogant at all which is what I remember from the town games of his that I've read/played/whatever. I don't have much experience with him, but he at least seems to try albeit seemingly badly and there's just no effort whatsoever being put in. His lack of attitude is just really putting me off. austin -- I just feel like this is exactly how he played the last game PTP and nothing like PYP. Austin as town is much, much better than this. I just really don't feel like feel like he's anything more than null which for him is pretty much a scum tell. caucasainasian -- He came in bitching about the thread and left. This is like a trademarked Gonzaw scumread. Both of his posts are essentially saying, "Uh I'm worthless right now but I'm here so you know guys stuff." | ||
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Xatalos
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On July 07 2013 09:52 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Congratulations, you may be the dumbest person currently playing this game. You're also easily the scummiest. You start off super defensive, then proceed to shit up the thread with a dumb argument and then go after chez who is a pretty easy (but incredibly bad) target since he launched a nuke. Then you omgus. I'd be down a for a rayn lynch. Dandel, wos, austin, geript lets get some input here. It's hard NOT to be defensive in his situation (me and geript mainly were pressuring him for quite some time). I can understand him wanting to lynch Chezinu, a part of me also wants to lynch Chezinu right now. He has added zero value to the game and has even actively played anti-town by trolling and nuking me. That's why I'm also puzzled about your townread on Chezinu? Could you elaborate? | ||
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