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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 22 2013 20:03 GMT
#861
And Cora - now is the time to talk to Yamato if you're suspicious of him. You're both active, and it's not "too late" or whatever to talk to the guy and verify/de-verify your read.
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ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
June 22 2013 20:03 GMT
#862
Back in an hour it's pizza time woot
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 22 2013 20:03 GMT
#863
On June 23 2013 05:03 ObviousOne wrote:
Back in an hour it's pizza time woot


Surely you can eat pizza and play mafia concurrently. Not hard.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 22 2013 20:07 GMT
#864
Hapa, vote DP right now so that I don't get lynched, please.
Writer@WriterYamato
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 22 2013 20:08 GMT
#865
Anyway, I keep reading through DP's filter looking for anything lynchable and I can't find anything. Even the "lack of engagement" is explainable by the fact that he's literally always busy on Saturdays in every one of his TL games ever.

I still don't think DP is a good lynch. I think it's more than possible that the secret vote (which is presumably sent by PM) could have been sent by one of the lurkers, and I want to lynch into one of them.

SloOsh or Ange I think. Maybe a YOLO SWAG lynch on Adam cause he hasn't shown up (but no not really).
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 22 2013 20:08 GMT
#866
On June 23 2013 05:07 yamato77 wrote:
Hapa, vote DP right now so that I don't get lynched, please.


We have 3 hours.

I'll vote DP over you in a heartbeat, but I'm going to be active until deadline, so I'll switch my vote when necessary.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 22 2013 20:09 GMT
#867
There's not enough votes here to lynch Sloosh, Ange, or Adam. Nevermind that I don't want to lynch Sloosh.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 22 2013 20:09 GMT
#868
On June 23 2013 05:08 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 05:07 yamato77 wrote:
Hapa, vote DP right now so that I don't get lynched, please.


We have 3 hours.

I'll vote DP over you in a heartbeat, but I'm going to be active until deadline, so I'll switch my vote when necessary.

We have 1 hour.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 22 2013 20:10 GMT
#869
On June 23 2013 05:09 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 05:08 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 23 2013 05:07 yamato77 wrote:
Hapa, vote DP right now so that I don't get lynched, please.


We have 3 hours.

I'll vote DP over you in a heartbeat, but I'm going to be active until deadline, so I'll switch my vote when necessary.

We have 1 hour.

Wait, 3 hours?

Fuck man, just vote him so he's first to four and some fuck from the scum team can't seal my lynch. So many players aren't even here.
Writer@WriterYamato
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 22 2013 20:10 GMT
#870
On June 23 2013 05:09 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 05:08 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 23 2013 05:07 yamato77 wrote:
Hapa, vote DP right now so that I don't get lynched, please.


We have 3 hours.

I'll vote DP over you in a heartbeat, but I'm going to be active until deadline, so I'll switch my vote when necessary.

We have 1 hour.


The vote post uses a countdown timer.

It's 16:00 EDT right now, and deadline's at 19:00 EDT according to the OP.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 22 2013 20:11 GMT
#871
Cora, where did you run off to? You seem not to give much of a shit about our predicament here.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
June 22 2013 20:11 GMT
#872
Yamato, this is my problem with you:

On June 22 2013 03:37 yamato77 wrote:
Also

##Vote ShiaoPi

Until further notice.


On June 22 2013 04:03 yamato77 wrote:
So if it isn't alignment indicative, as the both of you claim, I suppose there's nothing else about his posting that raises any alarms.

##unvote

Notably, he is on my watch list still.


That was 26 minutes. You dropped that vote so quickly it was almost like you never suspected ShiaoPi and voted him just for kicks.

On June 22 2013 16:14 yamato77 wrote:
I have little no interest in further explaining the posts that I have already made. Read them yourselves if you fail to understand what I've said.

That being the case, it's ridiculously disturbing that Hapa comes in with a pseudo-case on me after Oats and DP both agree that I'm somehow still scummy. None of this was said while I was talking to Hapa earlier, nor has he seemed particularly enthusiastic about lynching me in the first place. Hapa as scum would be afraid to attack me openly and directly, especially without support, but Hapa as town would be fearless and bullheaded in his suspicion of me, if it actually existed.

The way Hapa has played this so far, I'm reasonably convinced that he is mafia. His noncommittal stance on me and his weak reads elsewhere are not what I would expect from town Hapa. This Hapa seems much more content with blending in than actually leading discussion, a trait that I associate directly with scum Hapa.

Looks like I should have gone with my gut from his first post.

##Vote Hapahauli


On June 22 2013 18:17 yamato77 wrote:
##Unvote

I'll look at Rayn. OO is a good choice for lynch, but it unsettles me that DP is okay with his lynch, and has been for a while.


While this was 2 hours inbetween voting and unvoting, your original reasoning for voting Hapa (not being like Hapa) is not right in my opinion:


On June 23 2013 00:08 cDgCorazon wrote:
I could see Hapa being a bit less of a leader for one reason: In I Sware Mafia, he promised that he was going to try and post less during the game. However, he was town and really became the town leader. He had a spat with one or two other townies that gave scum a really good chance to sit around and establish townieness. Coming off of that game, I could see Hapa taking a bit less of a role in being town leader. I think he's trying to change his playstyle just a little bit. Not much comes off that I see is scummy.


Now you're on this DP kick that you say you've been on, but the fact is you've spent all game talking about how DP is scum and now you're only backing it up when the wagon on DP was about to start (aka when you knew there was an actual chance of DP getting lynched). Either you don't believe DP was scum or you are scum trying to set up a DP lynch. If you were genuinely suspicious of him, you would've voted him a lot sooner, and you definitely would've been the first to vote for him.

That's my problem with you, and why my vote is on you.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 22 2013 20:14 GMT
#873
Me unvoting people means that I'm not tunneling, which is an improvement over my play in the past.

This "DP kick" is timed with his fucking scummy ass vote on me. It makes too much sense. I really don't give a single fuck when you think I should have voted him, I play how I want to play.

Your reasons for voting me are bad and you're confirmation biased against me so bad you can't see that it's obvious that I'm 100% not scum.
Writer@WriterYamato
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
June 22 2013 20:15 GMT
#874
On June 23 2013 04:59 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 04:57 cDgCorazon wrote:
On June 23 2013 04:55 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 23 2013 04:54 cDgCorazon wrote:
Ok, can someone run me through OO's "scum claim"? I'm really confused about it.


It's not a scum-claim. I have virtually no clue about how it could be considered one.

There's an argument to be made that OO should be lynched for lack-of-content/lurking, though his behavior in the last few hours seems genuine.


The problem is there's like 3/4 people who can be accused of the same thing. That's why I'm leaning away from an OO lynch today.


I don't want to lynch OO either.

I'm between sloOsh, Ange, and maybe DP right now.


DP is town.

I'm willing to give Ange some more time to get more of her opinions out more: she has done a good job asking questions and if she's town and just hasn't explained her reads a bit more thoroughly it would be a really bad lynch for town.

I'm in favor of lynching Oats, Yamato, or sloOsh.

My problem is lynching sloOsh is that I could blame Adam, OO, and Ange for mostly the same things: lack of scumhunting and lack of activity. Why single out sloOsh?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 22 2013 20:16 GMT
#875
On June 23 2013 05:15 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 04:59 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 23 2013 04:57 cDgCorazon wrote:
On June 23 2013 04:55 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 23 2013 04:54 cDgCorazon wrote:
Ok, can someone run me through OO's "scum claim"? I'm really confused about it.


It's not a scum-claim. I have virtually no clue about how it could be considered one.

There's an argument to be made that OO should be lynched for lack-of-content/lurking, though his behavior in the last few hours seems genuine.


The problem is there's like 3/4 people who can be accused of the same thing. That's why I'm leaning away from an OO lynch today.


I don't want to lynch OO either.

I'm between sloOsh, Ange, and maybe DP right now.


DP is town.

I'm willing to give Ange some more time to get more of her opinions out more: she has done a good job asking questions and if she's town and just hasn't explained her reads a bit more thoroughly it would be a really bad lynch for town.

I'm in favor of lynching Oats, Yamato, or sloOsh.

My problem is lynching sloOsh is that I could blame Adam, OO, and Ange for mostly the same things: lack of scumhunting and lack of activity. Why single out sloOsh?

You can't just say DP is town and then say you want to lynch into 3 people who are more town than him by a mile.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 22 2013 20:17 GMT
#876
Cora, seriously, you want to become better? Start listening to other players in the game. It's how I got good at all. You can't win on your own.
Writer@WriterYamato
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
June 22 2013 20:18 GMT
#877
On June 23 2013 05:17 yamato77 wrote:
Cora, seriously, you want to become better? Start listening to other players in the game. It's how I got good at all. You can't win on your own.


You want to become better? Why don't you ask me why I think DP is town? Ever thought of that?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 22 2013 20:18 GMT
#878
On June 23 2013 05:18 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 05:17 yamato77 wrote:
Cora, seriously, you want to become better? Start listening to other players in the game. It's how I got good at all. You can't win on your own.


You want to become better? Why don't you ask me why I think DP is town? Ever thought of that?

Because you're wrong and I'm sure of it.
Writer@WriterYamato
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 22 2013 20:19 GMT
#879
On June 23 2013 05:15 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 04:59 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 23 2013 04:57 cDgCorazon wrote:
On June 23 2013 04:55 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 23 2013 04:54 cDgCorazon wrote:
Ok, can someone run me through OO's "scum claim"? I'm really confused about it.


It's not a scum-claim. I have virtually no clue about how it could be considered one.

There's an argument to be made that OO should be lynched for lack-of-content/lurking, though his behavior in the last few hours seems genuine.


The problem is there's like 3/4 people who can be accused of the same thing. That's why I'm leaning away from an OO lynch today.


I don't want to lynch OO either.

I'm between sloOsh, Ange, and maybe DP right now.


DP is town.


Why is DP town? That's a really strong statement at this stage.

I'm willing to give Ange some more time to get more of her opinions out more: she has done a good job asking questions and if she's town and just hasn't explained her reads a bit more thoroughly it would be a really bad lynch for town.

I'm in favor of lynching Oats, Yamato, or sloOsh.

My problem is lynching sloOsh is that I could blame Adam, OO, and Ange for mostly the same things: lack of scumhunting and lack of activity. Why single out sloOsh?


Why not? All of them are lynchable, and sloOsh really doesn't have an excuse for it. Also, this argument rings hollow when you want to lynch someone (Yamato) who's by miles doing more scumhunting.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
June 22 2013 20:28 GMT
#880
I have a strong feeling about DP being town for a couple of reasons:

1. His play has been productive and level-headed for most of the game. He is contributing to discussion and I don't believe he is hiding anything. His play seems very genuine to me and he has been very logical and reasonable in everyone he has analyzed. I don't see anything in his filter that looks scummy to me.

2. There have been a couple points where Hapa has been under fire. Instead of joining the wagon or not saying anything, DP has come out multiple (at least 5 times) to say that a Hapa lynch is a really stupid idea due to Hapa's importance to town. It would be so easy for scum DP to jump on the Hapa lynch train or to just sit out of the way and let a Hapa lynch train form. The fact that he went out of his way to defend Hapa means that he wants to keep Hapa alive for as long as possible, which would be super beneficial to town.
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