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Vivax
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Stutters695
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On June 15 2013 07:20 Vivax wrote: Alright, let me understand this. You meant to say that you didn't see ace being scum cause it would have been poor play for him to trade himself for Oats. But once Oats flipped, you said you would have done the same in his position as scum, but also as town with a legit dt check. I still see the same inconsistency I addressed cause you used two different justifications pre- and post-flip. I mean, preflip you argued with the unlikelyhood of ace doing that to lynch oats, post-flip you argued that you'd have done it as scum. You've still missed to point out why you found Rayn scummy but didn't follow up with anything until he was up for lynch. It's more of a fact but if you have thoughts to offer about that time then maybe it'll tell us more about your mindset back then. Aaaand finally you still didn't give reasons for me being scum since you've joined my wagon for no reason at the start of the day. I would have done it as scum. I'm not Ace. I probably could have gotten out of it if it was me in Ace's position because I am not known for making great plays and as such people would probably give me the benefit of the doubt. You're also neglecting how huge of a difference pre-flip and post-flip makes. Pre-flip I'm operating under the assumption that one of them is lying. If you take it from a pure numbers standpoint for scum to win each member must be worth 3 deaths from the start. After Rayn dies d1, each scum has to be worth 4 or offer something else of value to ensure the remaining scum will survive. Best case for Ace was Oats+2, Ace+2 for oats. Ace as an analyst is significantly more valuable if he's town and if he's not he's giving up a kp(incredibly valuable) and still is dead before he's made his value back. Couple that with my relatively high level of respect for his play and it's pretty easy to see why I thought he was truthful over oats, not that he was for sure truthful Now post flip I know oats was telling the truth. This changes things. Odds are significantly against oats being Miller so I'm trying to divine if Ace was lying. He tries to say he's town so of course he did this. But I know now oats was truthful, so I'm trying to figure out if ace is. I figure if I would consider it as scum, Ace might and thus his I'm town so I had to is a null tell. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
Night 4 Final Votecount Vivax (3): Stutters695, VayneAuthority, prplhz (0): [UoN]Sentinel (6): prplhz, jaybrundage, mkfuba07, WaveofShadow, Vivax, [UoN]Sentinel VayneAuthority (1): [UoN]Sentinel Stutters695 (0): Not Voting (0): [UoN]Sentinel has been lynched! The assembled Gamblers looked down on a hooded figure, shackled and severely beaten and under the influence of at least 5 different lies. "Fellow Gamblers!", a very loud Gambler yelled. Nobody is quite sure if he's lying about the "fellow" part, but hell, at one point you gotta break the circle. The circle of lies. "This man has been caught cheating at dice. We all know what cheating at dice means. If he was a townsman like we are, he'd be filthy rich by now. Also lies!" "I am rich!", the prisoner replied. "Yes, now. After cheating. Nice lies lying scum liar!" "I am not a lying liar!", the prisoner exclaimed. Everyone was unsure whether he was lying but clearly that's also what a liar would say. "Alright guys", Vivax spoke. "Take off his hood. I shall see if his lies are lies or not so lie-y after all." "Are you certain you're not lying about lying and a liar would fool your lies?" "This is retarded." Thus the hood was taken off. Turns out the prisoner was [UoN]Sentinel. A man wide and far known to be a very truthful liar. Vivax gazed deeply in his eyes. Not because it does anything, he just wanted to get some sexual tension going. "Alright, this man is not a lying scum scum liar lies.", he proclaimed publicly. "HOW DO U NO THO?!?!?" "Magic" And then they still killed [UoN]Sentinel. Just to make sure. [UoN]Sentinel, the Gambling VT has been lynched! It is now Night 4. Roles being sent out in the next couple minutes, you have 24 hours to send in actions you may have. deadline is at 23:00 GMT (+00:00) tl;dr: Business as usual. | ||
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kitaman27
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prplhz
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Vivax
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I don't know why I have a boner though, must be those eyes. | ||
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Stutters695
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Vivax
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Come at me. | ||
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Vivax
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prplhz
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Stutters695
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kitaman27
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[UoN]Sentinel
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
The thing is we probably had to off Sent no matter what like Kita just said, he was too scummy to let live at any point. At the very least right now we have some town confirmations (unless scum withheld shots). | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
Also i loved this OP make more good ones plz DONT BE LAZY  On June 15 2013 08:00 Dandel Ion wrote: Night 4 Final Votecount Vivax (3): Stutters695, VayneAuthority, prplhz (0): [UoN]Sentinel (6): prplhz, jaybrundage, mkfuba07, WaveofShadow, Vivax, [UoN]Sentinel VayneAuthority (1): [UoN]Sentinel Stutters695 (0): Not Voting (0): [UoN]Sentinel has been lynched! The assembled Gamblers looked down on a hooded figure, shackled and severely beaten and under the influence of at least 5 different lies. "Fellow Gamblers!", a very loud Gambler yelled. Nobody is quite sure if he's lying about the "fellow" part, but hell, at one point you gotta break the circle. The circle of lies. "This man has been caught cheating at dice. We all know what cheating at dice means. If he was a townsman like we are, he'd be filthy rich by now. Also lies!" "I am rich!", the prisoner replied. "Yes, now. After cheating. Nice lies lying scum liar!" "I am not a lying liar!", the prisoner exclaimed. Everyone was unsure whether he was lying but clearly that's also what a liar would say. "Alright guys", Vivax spoke. "Take off his hood. I shall see if his lies are lies or not so lie-y after all." "Are you certain you're not lying about lying and a liar would fool your lies?" "This is retarded." Thus the hood was taken off. Turns out the prisoner was [UoN]Sentinel. A man wide and far known to be a very truthful liar. Vivax gazed deeply in his eyes. Not because it does anything, he just wanted to get some sexual tension going. "Alright, this man is not a lying scum scum liar lies.", he proclaimed publicly. "HOW DO U NO THO?!?!?" "Magic" And then they still killed [UoN]Sentinel. Just to make sure. [UoN]Sentinel, the Gambling VT has been lynched! It is now Night 4. Roles being sent out in the next couple minutes, you have 24 hours to send in actions you may have. deadline is at 23:00 GMT (+00:00) tl;dr: Business as usual. | ||
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Stutters695
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
On June 15 2013 15:05 Stutters695 wrote: Where is everyone. We just lynched a townie and everyone is silent I think once the thread died down we all scheduled other stuff besides townie lynches tell you way less than scum lynches. This lynch painted a few people green but unless you try to WIFOM it there isn't any benefit to telling mafia who you think looks town at night. The game seems to be mostly acting on roles from now on so why write a case when we have a small group of players that are suspicious and nightactions to be revealed in the morning which will dictate what we do? | ||
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