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phagga
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I was set that oats and Sent are the last scum. Now they are voting each other, and I doubt that it's a buss. so who is the scum? I have not really chased your filters down in detail, mkfuba, but from what I saw you seem to play like this as town all the time. you are pretty much the only one I trust to be town in this mess. Why Sentinel? | ||
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Why no NK though? Doesn't matter, I'm off to bed. Now I can sleep  | ||
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We could theoretically no-lynch, but I don't see any reason for that. I'm confirmed town through decon's claim, and decon is very likely town through his actions, so if we no-lynch the next kill/feed will be on either him or me, which won't help the situation at all. So no no-lynch. Angels position: I have not seen anything. Decon says he saw something moving yesterday, sentinel today. We know the angel must feed two more times, we know one angel fed on Zephirdd. The feeding happens after the turn. Zephirds last recored position was Q17, IIRC he claimed a movement speed of 4, so his last position was somewhere in a 45° rotated square reaching from Q13 to Q21 and from M17 to U17. One angel was right next to him and has since then moved 1 time. (last night). Deconduo saw something N4. The rules state: If, at any time while moving, something enters your vision but does not remain there after movement is resolved, you will be notified that "You saw something last night". I wonder if its possible if Deconduo just saw Oatsmaster while moving, and then losing him out of view, resulting in the "You saw something last night"? The other explanation would be that an angel tried to get into position to feed on Deconduo for N5 (there was already a feeding on N4), thus passing him. Remember that Deconduo originally planned to just move forward one (and announced this in the thread), which would have resulted in him being on D5, and he changed his movement in the last minute going to E6. I imagine that an angel tried to get to C5 or E4, therefore missing Decon, but passing his view. Sentinel saw something N5. If we trust this, it means that the last angel is (still?) very close to the three of us. Neither me nor deconduo have passed his view, and he has not moved himself, so that must indeed have been an angel. I don't know if this helps us in any way, I just thought about it yesterday and today and thought I put this info out there. | ||
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phagga
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Deconduo, who is the last scum and why? I expect some sort of analysis. mkfuba is town for the following reasons: - He originally wanted to lynch deconduo D1, but then offered to switch to whoever town wanted to lynch. Important: He wanted to vote Vivax, but switched on Decon for consolidation. As soon as BH called for a vote switch, he immediatly switched back to Vivax, hammering him. - His flashlight has been out for 3 consecutive nights. Why would scum not use this ability on either decon or me instead on one of themselfs? - He was the only one to actually have been suspicious of Oats before he "slipped" with his movement. His vote on Oats seemed legit, compared to Sentinels. - He could have hammered Deconduo with Oats and Sentinel D4. Instead he introduced a "phagga is scum" theory which even made Oats switch to me in a desperate attempt to not get lynched. - And even now, what is this attack on deconduo? He could probably get a misslynch on Sentinel, instead he attacks the claimed DT? Does not compute. - Kinda plays to his town meta These are a number of small things, each looking slightly townie. If Sentinel wants me to lynch mkfuba, he needs more than that. mffuba is scum for the following reasons: Tell me, Sentinel, I'd like to hear. I have more to write, need lunch first. Will also read up on mkfubas case. | ||
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Marv was a medic who has to stand right next to his target. Blazinghand is the doctor who can lit up a 3x3 field Zephirdd is vigilante who also has to stand right next to his target. Vivax flipped standard Weeping Angel aka Goon Oats flipped standard Weeping Angel aka Goon If deconduo's claim is right, then town has 4 power roles vs the max of 1 scum power role. And even though this is a themed setup, this does not sound very balanced. Imagine this: Marv is able to save one person N2, we lynch scum once and Zephirdd actually hits scum N2. Suddenly there is one scum left D3 with almost full town strength. And that's not even considering Blazinghands role. And now we ALSO have a guy who can get the alignement of people with no GF around? This seems extremely imbalanced. Scum needs 3 feeds, and I assume that it was close to impossible to feed N1. Also, they probably want to kill off a strong townie or two in the beginning. This means at least 4 nights => up to D5. I really can't believe that we get a 4th power role under this circumstances. What already iffed me yesterday about deconduo is that he is not doing anything besides some setup speculation. He is not trying to figure the game out. I tried to write a huge case on Oats yesterday to make sure all townies are on him, but the longer I wrote the more I got convinced that he is town and decon scum. I mean, sentinel isn't the beacon of towniness, but I really feel worse with deconduo than with sentinel. I think mkfubas case is spot on. let's lynch deconduo. Vote: Deconduo There is a high probability that I can not be around at deadline. I try my best to be available and at least check with my phone, but no guarantees. | ||
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Also, if all fails, at the least the ObsQT can laugh about us. Hey ObsQT, anyone there? Give me a popcorn! | ||
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On May 25 2013 04:52 mkfuba07 wrote: Phagga's post made me worried that I was right about him yesterday, and that he was preemptively GG'ing as a joke. Then I remembered that that would mean deconduo was lying, too. I'm so paranoid around lynch time...  Nah, I'm just chill now. It's done, either we win or we lose. No need for last minute shennies. | ||
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Pro analysis by mkfuba, well done! | ||
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On May 25 2013 06:32 Zephirdd wrote: Oh. Wow I would have lost so fucking hard. gj phagga and mkfuba dude, I just read that "dumbfuck" comment in the ObsQT  nah, it's cool. I'm glad mkfuba posted that case. When I read it and thought about it, suddenly everything made sense. | ||
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On May 25 2013 06:34 Zephirdd wrote: wait so we SERIOUSLY had 2 scums as lynch targets day 01 and every read of mine was fucked up, even though I found the scumslip. After Oats flipped I wondered for ages why the hell he did not switch to the decon train on D1. I was even close to unvote him at lylo because this (and a few more things) just did not make sense with an Oats/Sent team. Then mkfuba posted his case and everything made sense! | ||
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On May 25 2013 06:54 mkfuba07 wrote: I loved the game, just hated being wrong in the first game I got to lategame in. Especially because marv was the last scum, and he did naught things to my corpse... Where you the guy who drowned in semen? | ||
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On May 25 2013 07:36 marvellosity wrote: I'm not sure whether deconduo being mafia makes the last minute panic vote-switching on Day 1 less or more hilarious definately more. Reread the whole thing, I can't stop laughing while reading it. | ||
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On May 25 2013 07:40 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Fuba gets MVP for saving my sorry ass and being the one whose logic ultimately won us the game. Day 4 when Dec planned to ninjalynch me as well and Day 5 when he pushed the Dec lynch and won us the game. Fuba really stepped up his game at the end, going through scenarios until he got it right. I might have had a good start, but the last two days I really lost myself in filters. I could not make sense of what was going on, whatever combination of people I came up with as scum didn't make sense. Mkfuba really saved us there. | ||
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