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jkirby. You haven't posted a case against me. You said you would vote if you think town was behind you.
Literally this is your case against me.
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On April 08 2013 09:28 jrkirby wrote:
I guess my reads now are smancer, jarjar, and fishgle.
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On April 09 2013 14:30 jrkirby wrote:
Smancer smells bad to me. I will vote for him if I think that the town is on my side.
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On April 10 2013 03:27 jrkirby wrote:
I'm going to come back in several hours and probably vote for one of these four - smancer - jarjar - warent - theravensname. in that order of suspicion.
Holy shit great case bro.
Lets see your filter. Hmm never has posted an analysis on a single person. Literally HALF of your last 24 posts are one liners contributing nothing.
You are wasting time. There is 5 hours before a lynch and you haven't made a case, yet you have been here posting garbage reads. So you will come back and post a vote in a few hours? Wow way to help the town. Do you not understand that we need to find scum? Do you not understand that if you really think someone is scum you need to try to get the rest of the town to be convinced?
Saying I smell bad is doing none of that.
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Oh and WTF is this?
On April 09 2013 14:30 jrkirby wrote:
I have a strong townread on obzy. The only reason I ever didn't was when he was defending rainbows and I thought rainbows was scum.
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I might be ok lynching moloch but I don't have a good read on him either way. If someone presents a good case I'll think about it.
Ok your strong townread Obzy just posted a case against Moloch. Did his town vote summary swing you so much that now he isn't even on your suspect list?
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On April 10 2013 04:15 nobodywonder wrote:
how the fuck did fishgle randomly change from being a scumread to townread? this makes no sense at all besides a very obvious scumslip. just explain this? if you are town, it shouldn't be too hard, you should be able to clearly demonstrate his transition from scumread to townread. and for that matter, you should told us why he was a scumread in the first place and a town read later.
NW ok, good analysis but I think there is a mistake.
You quoted and bolded jkirby's scum read on Rainbows pre lynch. And then quote and bold his town read on fish.
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EBWOP my bad never mind, I see you are comparing the double quotes, not the pre lyunch post lyunch quotes.
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So now that you are back and you are addressing my case. Who do you think is scum?
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Obzy, his case was good.
And to be honest, I am ready to vote for jkirby as well,
##Unvote
##Vote: jkirby
I pretty much have already built my case in the few posts before NW's case. My points were 1) His town read on you and saying he will vote Moloch if there is a case. 2) he is only going to vote for someone if he thinks town will follow him. 3) the amount of 1 liner responces / Lack of any content 4) his suspects me with no case. 5) he said he will "come back in a few hours to vote" this truely shows no sense of urgency for the town.
Moloch has addressed my case against him, and I like how he did it. He also all but completely disproved my second point in my case against him, that is, the unvote of Rainbows.
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Obzy I totally here you about being frustrated. Like jkirby it is my first game as well, and I just keep going back and forth. AS Moloch pointed out I get one theory Build a case, and convince myself someone is scum. then I go back through other filters and convince myself someone else is scum. Totally confusing and frustrating.
Fish showing up at the last minute great...
jkirby, I struggle with ravens and rainbows as well. I tend to believe Rainbows claim, just because it was so early. And Raven seemed to jump on Moloch right after I made a case against him. I read through your defense, and case to support yourself. I am sorry but I am not convinced.
@Moloch what can I say, I am switching around quite a bit. Just to be clear, I was being sarcastic just around the first sentence. the scumslip part was pretty serious. I believed it. I hope I am not being aggressive or being a bully :-/ just trying to provide reason behind what I do.
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Fish I hope not. YOu just said you don't want to be sheeped into a vote.
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Sorry things are moving fast now.
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On April 10 2013 08:44 Fishgle wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2013 08:42 nobodywonder wrote:
shit alright if raven is town then rainbows is mafia, if raven is mafia then rainbows town for sure... god i just wish we had more time right now...
right now jrkirby still feels scummy, but idk my fellow voters on jrk dont feel that townie to me either... i dont like smancer especially...his votes and reasoning weren't the best. i fear that smancer and jjd may be scum too.
god im so paranoid right now should we kill off one of rainbows or raven just to get this thing sorted out?
I think you are right.
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From everything I am seeing jkirby might just be a really bad town.
I mean Rainbows claimed Blue. I have to believe him. Its getting down to the wire.. so...
##Unvote
##vote: TheRavensName
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On April 10 2013 08:47 Obzy wrote:
And no, don't switch onto Ravens OR Rain. I hate them both but a last minute vote switch is stupid when it's because of high-flying emotions and not logical, rational discourse, especially in a newbie game. In my other newbie we pulled off scum within the last hour on day1 because we flew into a bloodrage. Stay the course - we decided on kirby rationally when we were calmly analyzing play. However mad I am right now (and it is not inconsiderable), a last minute vote switch invalidates all of our hard work today.
Obzy don't you believe Rain is blue?
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Obzy everyone is here.... Ugh... kirby you want me to vote you or something?
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On April 10 2013 08:51 Fishgle wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2013 08:50 jrkirby wrote:
If I was wrong about jarjar, I apologize, because I was wrong completely. But I'm guessing you'll lynch him tomorrow after I flip. if we're wrong, i think there's a more important target.
WHO?
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I swear Obzy he flips Couch Potato... and we could have had raven who doesn't even believe rainbows uncontested blue claim.
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##Vote: jkirby
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We could have had raven. I think it is time we listen to rainbows. He is pretty much confirmed blue.
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Well Obzy, I have to say that I disagree with you. I am not scum, just a really really bad townie I guess.
@TRN yea the last minute switch about that.For me it gets pretty intense right around deadline. My heart is pounding and I went on instinct there. Then I read Obzy's post about not throwing away a days work etc. So I switched back.
I honestly don't even know anymore. I keep changing my mind, I build what I think are strong cases against people who are town, and then they get lynched. Should I even try to build cases today? I feel like I am just going to be wrong.
I think what I will do today is keep my mouth shut until after this night time is over. I will in the mean time try to reread the thread and focus specifically on Rainbows vs TRN. I'll take Warrents advice and try to determine motives.
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On April 11 2013 02:53 Obzy wrote:
I rather want to die
Come on man,
On March 30 2013 00:32 marvellosity wrote:
Play to win.
This means you play your best to help your team win while you are alive and in the game. However, this does not mean that you should try to win by being a jerk to the other players so they all want to quit playing.
I've been reading through events. I think our best chance at finding scum at this point is to focus on Raven versus Rainbows.
Its no secret that I wanted to flip vote to Raven at the last minute last night. I also believe Rainbows claim.
The one thing that is just really bothering me from yesterdays events, other than my own play in mislynching is that Raven changed his vote from Rainbows to Moloch.
Why? He had tunneled rainbows since Rainbows claim. And furthermore he just went back to rainbows anyway bit later.
And then Rainbows. At first I believed his claim. I mean no one countered it right? Ravens said he fake claimed before, apparently for the fun of it #YOLOSWAG...
But think about how much that really hurt town. Raven said you don't claim Vig day 1 because you never get your shot off.
And it is true, we haven't gotten a shot off.
I really want to get to the bottom of this because I think it is our best lead.
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EBWOP that first believe should be *believed*
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No matter what happens tonight, we (myself included) really just need to focus one or two things. I think in Day 1 and Day 2 I was definitely way too "all over the place".
Currently I see three topics and I suggest we focus on only 2 of them during the course of tonight, and Day3. Lets narrow our focus.
Here are the topics I see:
1) The Raven vs Rainbows discourse.
2) The vote counts for D1 and D2
3) Obzys Medic Claim
Please can we just agree that all of us will focus down on at most 2 of these topics?
"The town ideally wants an atmosphere where people can focus on one or two things at a time to get real information. This means there needs to be a fair number of posts: too little and the town can't get enough information; too many and the town can't sort through all the irrelevant junk to find the good stuff."
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