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How will "night" actions be resolved (medic target and mafia KP)?
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I agree to all the rules and activity requirements in the OP How will "night" actions be resolved (medic target and mafia KP)? | ||
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On April 02 2013 07:16 VisceraEyes wrote: Pretty sure D1 is instant majority too, but we only have 48hrs to decide on a lynch as opposed to the open-ended limit of subsequent days. Lazer can I clarify a couple of things about your policy post? 1) 24 hours from when? Someone giving intent to hammer? I'm not sure what this limit is designed to accomplish, given your second point. 2) This is basically stating the obvious. Are you going to find anyone who hammers instantly scummy? @2-> Instant hammering, will result in the hammerer being hammered (with a hammer). + Show Spoiler + In English this time: Don't instant-hammer, or I'll move to lynch you as punishment. Town needs the discussion and attempting to stop that is scummy. If you are that confident in a lynch target, then you should be able to contain your excitement for a couple hours. **The hammer itself is not scummy, its the way you choose to do it.** | ||
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On April 02 2013 10:44 risk.nuke wrote: Show nested quote + On April 02 2013 10:29 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: ##unvote: VE ##Vote: Risk.nuke It's like you brought up the Kenpachi rule just to see if someone else was willing to run with it and kill me. Wanting townies to do your work for you? Why would I fake a perfectly legit argument? On April 02 2013 09:50 risk.nuke wrote: Show nested quote + On April 02 2013 09:47 VisceraEyes wrote: On April 02 2013 09:45 risk.nuke wrote: VE, RoL. If you're going to tunnel-bitch-argue in the thread atleast argue about something remotely relevant. If you're going to criticize me for anything, you should answer questions posed of you first. Do you think RoL is scum for "contesting" my "claim" a la Kenpachi Rule? No I don't. Doesn't seem all that legit to me. On April 02 2013 08:44 risk.nuke wrote: Show nested quote + On April 02 2013 08:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: On April 02 2013 08:37 risk.nuke wrote: Worst vote ever. On the contrary, best vote ever. I would argue that putting your vote on a townie is greatly suboptimal. Also, scumslip in that he knows CC is town. | ||
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On April 02 2013 22:32 Lazermonkey wrote: Show nested quote + I'd actually not talk about my (potential)scum read just yet. I want a certain interaction to be happening first. Most probebly, that will occour later today. On April 02 2013 22:27 AxleGreaser wrote: On April 02 2013 22:15 Lazermonkey wrote: Howdy folks! @Axle: I take L-1 as one vote from lynch, am I correct? Regarding risk: I'm not confident in voting him at the moment. While I agree that the "kenpachi-incident" makes him look kinda bad, he defended himself in a way I'm not sure scum would. I'd say that this could just as well be a strange town play rather than scum and it really comes down to WIFOM to figure out which one it is. + Show Spoiler + TBMK: in general use, L-1 = Lynch -1 = 1 more vote to Lynch. We are currently at L-2. So if you are "not confident in voting him at the moment.".... what do ? Lazer, I don't suppose you could let us know who you're waiting for? | ||
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On April 03 2013 00:18 Ghor wrote: Ghor not understand why people ask questions about risk, people not read properly ghor posts?read thread then come back with good question please. only update is ghor not think RoL that scummy any more, but not like initial play. now better. risk talk about fluff after he say he not like doing content of his fluff (policy). his defense, bad, he contradict. ##Vote: Ghor Do you think risk.nuke is scum? | ||
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On April 03 2013 01:14 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Hopeless... Show nested quote + On April 02 2013 10:49 Hopeless1der wrote: On April 02 2013 10:44 risk.nuke wrote: On April 02 2013 10:29 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: ##unvote: VE ##Vote: Risk.nuke It's like you brought up the Kenpachi rule just to see if someone else was willing to run with it and kill me. Wanting townies to do your work for you? Why would I fake a perfectly legit argument? On April 02 2013 09:50 risk.nuke wrote: On April 02 2013 09:47 VisceraEyes wrote: On April 02 2013 09:45 risk.nuke wrote: VE, RoL. If you're going to tunnel-bitch-argue in the thread atleast argue about something remotely relevant. If you're going to criticize me for anything, you should answer questions posed of you first. Do you think RoL is scum for "contesting" my "claim" a la Kenpachi Rule? No I don't. Doesn't seem all that legit to me. On April 02 2013 08:44 risk.nuke wrote: On April 02 2013 08:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: On April 02 2013 08:37 risk.nuke wrote: Worst vote ever. On the contrary, best vote ever. I would argue that putting your vote on a townie is greatly suboptimal. Also, scumslip in that he knows CC is town. At this point in time risk had 3 votes on him. You kinda threw some shit at him and called him scummy. What was your intention with this post? I think risk is scummy but didn't want the day to end that soon. Also wanted to see if anyone agreed with my assessment of the supposed scumslip. Ghor is annoying as all hell and his intentions behind voting sylencia do not match with his scum read on risk.nuke. He wants sylencia to commit to some type of a read on risk and when he refuses to do so, calls him scum for it. No where does he validate why this is scummy. Combine that with what appears to be a trolling smurf hellbent on behaving like a caveman, and I think he's a good choice for lynch. | ||
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On April 03 2013 01:38 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Show nested quote + On April 03 2013 01:32 Hopeless1der wrote: On April 03 2013 01:14 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Hopeless... On April 02 2013 10:49 Hopeless1der wrote: On April 02 2013 10:44 risk.nuke wrote: On April 02 2013 10:29 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: ##unvote: VE ##Vote: Risk.nuke It's like you brought up the Kenpachi rule just to see if someone else was willing to run with it and kill me. Wanting townies to do your work for you? Why would I fake a perfectly legit argument? On April 02 2013 09:50 risk.nuke wrote: On April 02 2013 09:47 VisceraEyes wrote: On April 02 2013 09:45 risk.nuke wrote: VE, RoL. If you're going to tunnel-bitch-argue in the thread atleast argue about something remotely relevant. If you're going to criticize me for anything, you should answer questions posed of you first. Do you think RoL is scum for "contesting" my "claim" a la Kenpachi Rule? No I don't. Doesn't seem all that legit to me. On April 02 2013 08:44 risk.nuke wrote: On April 02 2013 08:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: On April 02 2013 08:37 risk.nuke wrote: Worst vote ever. On the contrary, best vote ever. I would argue that putting your vote on a townie is greatly suboptimal. Also, scumslip in that he knows CC is town. At this point in time risk had 3 votes on him. You kinda threw some shit at him and called him scummy. What was your intention with this post? I think risk is scummy but didn't want the day to end that soon. Also wanted to see if anyone agreed with my assessment of the supposed scumslip. Ghor is annoying as all hell and his intentions behind voting sylencia do not match with his scum read on risk.nuke. He wants sylencia to commit to some type of a read on risk and when he refuses to do so, calls him scum for it. No where does he validate why this is scummy. Combine that with what appears to be a trolling smurf hellbent on behaving like a caveman, and I think he's a good choice for lynch. It's that type of post I hate, Hopeless. I call it a Clarity. Clarity_nl did that in a game as scum, it was like he was bolstering a case without actually committing. I think that's what you were doing, prodding people to vote with no committal. And look, you can back out of it easy :D How do the intentions behind voting sylencia not match with a scumread on risk.nuke? Both of them could be scum, according to him? Yes, but by that logic any two players could be scum. ghor seemingly had a limited read on sylencia and was trying to develop one based on sylencia's response to risk's filter and the surrounding discussion. Sylencia "failed" whatever Ghor's criteria was, but during the whole process, ghor isn't really pushing risk nuke at all, he's needling away at sylencia, someone who maintains that he can see both sides of the coin and is hesitant to commit. Calling them both scum would involve tying the non-commital stance to a scum motive, something that ghor has neglected. Its a very straightforward thing to say, but he doesn't do it. I don't think he's legitimately trying to push for risk's lynch because I believe ghor and risk.nuke are the scum team. His pushing sylencia as risk`s teammate doesnt make sense because we should just lynch risk in that case, theres enough support for it. Why bother introducing a new candidate? | ||
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On April 03 2013 01:46 VisceraEyes wrote: Hopeless if you really felt that way your vote would be on risk.nuke. You're accusing Ghor of being risk's "scumbuddy" because he's not voting for risk. What the hell are you doing? Not voting for risk. You say Ghor is attacking Sylencia in lieu of pushing risk.nuke. What are you doing? Attacking Ghor in lieu of pushing risk.nuke. Your play is wholly and completely contradictory and scummy as sin. Do you have anything to say for yourself? My vote on ghor was to get him to answer my bloody question about his stance on risk instead of directing me to his filter. ##Unvote: Ghor ##Vote: risk.nuke | ||
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On April 03 2013 01:56 Ghor wrote: ghor think hopeless braindead if he thinks ghor teammate with risk. ghor pointed out fallacies with risk early, try get proper opinion on him from sylencia. All reasoning laid out, hopeless not absorb it. Hopeless, question: Ghor saw the scumslip you pointed out that was none.Ghor answered to your assessment, what do you deduce from it? (Ghor deduces it another example of hopeless amazing reading comprehension) it was what initially put me onto you as scum, so thank you for the compliment. | ||
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On April 03 2013 02:15 Ghor wrote: Show nested quote + On April 03 2013 02:12 Hopeless1der wrote: okay well you know my reads, so i'm not sure what else I should do, other than shit a confirmation bias-conspiracy theory giant case on the thread. Hopeless can answer question. Why he think ghor scum for pointing out hopeless wrong argument against nuke? To sweep it under the rug and prevent people from catching on to it. | ||
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On April 03 2013 02:19 VisceraEyes wrote: And what do you think of me for also not agreeing with your assessment of the "scumslip" Hopeless? Because I think it's bogus too. Am I scum just trying "to sweep it under the rug"? Yes, you're scum too VE | ||
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On April 03 2013 02:23 VisceraEyes wrote: You heard it here first people...risk.nuke/Ghor/VE scumteam in 9 player game. God can you imagine how fucked you guys would be? LYLO D2 LMAO /sarcasm? | ||
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On April 03 2013 06:51 VisceraEyes wrote: I feel like he got caught with his pants down trying to tiptoe around a risk.nuke lynch. He was indirectly supporting the risk.nuke wagon without adding his vote. Regardless of risk.nuke's alignment, that's a suspicious action out of Hopeless. If at the time he felt like risk.nuke was scum (which his whole association BS is supposing) then there's no reason for him to be indirectly supporting the wagon while trying to start a counter-wagon on someone else. Furthermore he lied about it in the thread. Observe. Show nested quote + On April 03 2013 01:32 Hopeless1der wrote: On April 03 2013 01:14 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Hopeless... On April 02 2013 10:49 Hopeless1der wrote: On April 02 2013 10:44 risk.nuke wrote: On April 02 2013 10:29 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: ##unvote: VE ##Vote: Risk.nuke It's like you brought up the Kenpachi rule just to see if someone else was willing to run with it and kill me. Wanting townies to do your work for you? Why would I fake a perfectly legit argument? On April 02 2013 09:50 risk.nuke wrote: On April 02 2013 09:47 VisceraEyes wrote: On April 02 2013 09:45 risk.nuke wrote: VE, RoL. If you're going to tunnel-bitch-argue in the thread atleast argue about something remotely relevant. If you're going to criticize me for anything, you should answer questions posed of you first. Do you think RoL is scum for "contesting" my "claim" a la Kenpachi Rule? No I don't. Doesn't seem all that legit to me. On April 02 2013 08:44 risk.nuke wrote: On April 02 2013 08:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: On April 02 2013 08:37 risk.nuke wrote: Worst vote ever. On the contrary, best vote ever. I would argue that putting your vote on a townie is greatly suboptimal. Also, scumslip in that he knows CC is town. At this point in time risk had 3 votes on him. You kinda threw some shit at him and called him scummy. What was your intention with this post? I think risk is scummy but didn't want the day to end that soon. Also wanted to see if anyone agreed with my assessment of the supposed scumslip. Ghor is annoying as all hell and his intentions behind voting sylencia do not match with his scum read on risk.nuke. He wants sylencia to commit to some type of a read on risk and when he refuses to do so, calls him scum for it. No where does he validate why this is scummy. Combine that with what appears to be a trolling smurf hellbent on behaving like a caveman, and I think he's a good choice for lynch. Show nested quote + On April 03 2013 01:48 Hopeless1der wrote: On April 03 2013 01:46 VisceraEyes wrote: Hopeless if you really felt that way your vote would be on risk.nuke. You're accusing Ghor of being risk's "scumbuddy" because he's not voting for risk. What the hell are you doing? Not voting for risk. You say Ghor is attacking Sylencia in lieu of pushing risk.nuke. What are you doing? Attacking Ghor in lieu of pushing risk.nuke. Your play is wholly and completely contradictory and scummy as sin. Do you have anything to say for yourself? My vote on ghor was to get him to answer my bloody question about his stance on risk instead of directing me to his filter. ##Unvote: Ghor ##Vote: risk.nuke When confronted about his vote on Ghor he says it was to get him to answer his question, but as you can see from the first post, he clearly says that he feels like Ghor should be considered for lynch today. Inconsistent. Scummy. I believe the scumteam is both ghor and risk.nuke. My vote came down as follows: + Show Spoiler + On April 03 2013 00:11 Hopeless1der wrote: ghor, do you think risk is scum? On April 03 2013 00:18 Ghor wrote: Ghor not understand why people ask questions about risk, people not read properly ghor posts?read thread then come back with good question please. only update is ghor not think RoL that scummy any more, but not like initial play. now better. risk talk about fluff after he say he not like doing content of his fluff (policy). his defense, bad, he contradict. On April 03 2013 00:25 Hopeless1der wrote: ##Vote: Ghor Do you think risk.nuke is scum? My vote was for the explicit purpose to get him to [answer the question, not because I thought he was scum (I thought he was scum but that was not the reason for voting him). Since then I've become more confident in my read. You didn't catch me tiptoeing around anything. I directly supported a risk.nuke lynch, but neglected to vote in for him at the time. This was to ensure people didn't flip out and say OMG UNVOTE BEFORE HAMMER. Since then, I've developed a scum read on Ghor as well. I'm perfectly willing to swap back and forth between the two of them all day. ##Unvote: risk.nuke ##Vote: Ghor | ||
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On April 03 2013 06:55 VisceraEyes wrote: Hopeless who even said anything about you saving Sylencia? What are you talking about? What do you believe my motive to be? Trying to put myself in your shoes, I'd suspect (Scum-Hopeless) of being disruptive and/or trying to save (Scum-Sylencia). by the way, inherent in reading two people as scum is everyone else is town. | ||
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On April 03 2013 18:18 Lazermonkey wrote: Also, don't hammer yet... This. Today has a self imposed deadline, take every second of it that you can get. It is way more scum motivated to want to end the day early. I could understand if you're that confident I'm scum but nevertheless, don't hammer me, I want to get something meaningful into the thread. Is day 1 a plurality lynch or do we still have to reach a majority before the 48 hours is up? I don't have time to reread who's voting me and why etc right this minute, so give me a couple hours to get back please. | ||
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On April 03 2013 21:48 iamperfection wrote: Show nested quote + On April 02 2013 07:11 Hapahauli wrote: On April 02 2013 07:06 Lazermonkey wrote: Hi everyone! I want to start things off by saying that this is my first time playing an instant majority lynch. While the first 48 hours obviously aren't instant majority, I still think we can start discuss some policy to get things going. 1.If we are about to kill someone, we should at least give the person 24 hours to be able to put up a solid defense. 2.Throw votes around all you want but if you hammer someone, you and everyone else on that wagon better provide good reasoning for that. Everyone who fails at these stuff should get policy lynched right away imo. For clarification, Day 1 is instant majority. There is just a 48 hour time-limit on the day. So you could lynch someone before that time-limit. as a reminder as there appears to be some confusion I meant what happens if the deadline passes and a majority is not reached? Is that a no-lynch or a plurality lynch? | ||
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On April 03 2013 22:08 AxleGreaser wrote: Show nested quote + On April 03 2013 21:54 Hopeless1der wrote: Axle, if you're around, do you seriously believe I think there are 3 scum? You devoted a decent section of your case against me to something that literally cannot be true, unless Hapa is bastard modding No I don't seriously believe you think there are 3 scum in 9 player game. Who is your top scum read? risk > ghor at the moment, but I haven't re-read ghor yet. working on a risk case now. | ||
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On April 03 2013 22:09 AxleGreaser wrote: Show nested quote + On April 03 2013 22:09 Hopeless1der wrote: On April 03 2013 22:08 AxleGreaser wrote: On April 03 2013 21:54 Hopeless1der wrote: Axle, if you're around, do you seriously believe I think there are 3 scum? You devoted a decent section of your case against me to something that literally cannot be true, unless Hapa is bastard modding No I don't seriously believe you think there are 3 scum in 9 player game. Who is your top scum read? risk > ghor at the moment, but I haven't re-read ghor yet. working on a risk case now. How did your case on Ghor get started? Hes a trolly jerkface who insulted my literacy skills. Also, relatively insistent that risk.nuke is scum, but wont hammer in order to find the "other scum". Upon finding said scum (sylencia), doesn't want to hammer risk.nuke anymore. Granted, I'm sailing the same boat but whatever.. | ||
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On April 03 2013 22:24 Lazermonkey wrote: Show nested quote + So you confess that you are looking scummy or what?On April 03 2013 22:15 Hopeless1der wrote: On April 03 2013 22:09 AxleGreaser wrote: On April 03 2013 22:09 Hopeless1der wrote: On April 03 2013 22:08 AxleGreaser wrote: On April 03 2013 21:54 Hopeless1der wrote: Axle, if you're around, do you seriously believe I think there are 3 scum? You devoted a decent section of your case against me to something that literally cannot be true, unless Hapa is bastard modding No I don't seriously believe you think there are 3 scum in 9 player game. Who is your top scum read? risk > ghor at the moment, but I haven't re-read ghor yet. working on a risk case now. How did your case on Ghor get started? Hes a trolly jerkface who insulted my literacy skills. Also, relatively insistent that risk.nuke is scum, but wont hammer in order to find the "other scum". Upon finding said scum (sylencia), doesn't want to hammer risk.nuke anymore. Granted, I'm sailing the same boat but whatever.. I always look scummy, you're the one who's been defending me on that concept. | ||
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Let me try again and actually explain why this shows a scum mentality. On April 02 2013 08:44 risk.nuke wrote: Show nested quote + On April 02 2013 08:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: On April 02 2013 08:37 risk.nuke wrote: Worst vote ever. On the contrary, best vote ever. I would argue that putting your vote on a townie is greatly suboptimal. 1) Soft-claim town. He didn't say "I'M TOWN", he said voting a townie is bad. 2) Now, I'm making some pretty blanket statements here, but I would expect: - Scum want to kill townies. - Townies want to kill scum. - Townies do not want to kill townies. The assumption of this post is that CC is town and should not want other townies to die. <---This is what I am calling as the slip, risk knows CC is town. + Show Spoiler + [CONFIRMATION BIAS] On April 02 2013 08:48 risk.nuke wrote: You want me to spoil the ending and hand you the key to the test? He has the answer key *hint hint* [/CONFIRMATION BIAS] risk.nuke is the original proponent of the Kenpachi rule in this game. He did this for no other reason than an errant observation. No alignment indicative thoughts on it. VE made his point about it already: + Show Spoiler + On April 02 2013 10:15 VisceraEyes wrote: I had a similar thought regarding risk.nuke. Why bring up the Kenpachi Rule at all if he had no intention of following it? My thoughts brought me to "He's scummy". He's either: 1) Scum trying to incriminate RoL innocuously by "joking" about Kenpachi Rule. 2) Town trying to trap someone into agreeing with his assessment and voting RoL. I ruled out 2 by asking him if he thought RoL was scum because of it, and he doesn't, which leaves 1). ##Vote: risk.nuke Conversely I'm very null on RoL. Abhorring my play-style is very NOT alignment indicative for that guy. Something I notice reading risk's filter is he keeps trying to defend himself regarding his handling of the Kenpachi Rule, saying that people have different opinions and that he doesn't use methods like that to find scum. However, when initially called out by VE, he insists that he was scumhunting Its not so much a backpedal as it is him trying to "say the right things" to me. Over the course of an hour, risk twice tells VE/RoL to stop tunneling On April 02 2013 09:45 risk.nuke wrote: VE, RoL. If you're going to tunnel-bitch-argue in the thread atleast argue about something remotely relevant. On April 02 2013 10:46 risk.nuke wrote: Show nested quote + On April 02 2013 10:43 VisceraEyes wrote: Can you point out where I've been talking about "the dangers of voting"? I'm pretty sure all I've talked about was how Lazer's and RoL's policies were retarded and unfair respectively. Will you please god damn stop tunneling? The thread have talked about it, I assume you read the thread? But does nothing to steer the direction himself, just has a voice to tell them to stop whatever it is that they are doing (later on this was ganging up on him). risk.nuke moves on to accuse me of not really being interested in finding scum, while at the same time calling EVERY NON-POSTING PERSON SCUMMY. + Show Spoiler + On April 02 2013 11:07 risk.nuke wrote: Viscera. Tunneling isn't about time, it's about not having an open mind. You lashed out at me instantly and agressively for the smallest thing so clearly you're looking at me as if I am scum and are trying to find things things that are scummy about me to confirm that belief. Aka tunneling. You want REAL scummy shit. Everyone that's not posting are scummier then those who are posting. For 2, I personally think Hopeless1der look very uninterested in finding scum. He goes to bed shortly after this, and upon waking up promises his "case" on On April 02 2013 20:58 risk.nuke wrote: Hopeless1der it started with this post. Show nested quote + On April 02 2013 10:07 Hopeless1der wrote: ghor, are we going to be fighting a language barrier with you or are you just trolling? He's pretty much around but doesn't do anything or comments on anything of worth. His three posts tells us he was around and this is what he choose to comment on? Compare to other filters, dessert fruity His other two posts one is a sheep-post where he talks briefly about hammers, which is fine but it doesn't really add anything. The second and last one is some cheap shots which mostly just serve to tell us he's not reading the thread and if he is he's just skimming through it without caring when we're 1½ pages. Really, it started with my second post in the game? Bro, I had 3 posts at the time of this "case". Read my first 3 posts of both of those filters and compare them to my first 3 posts here. If you can honestly tell me I look 100% scummier in this game than those 2, then fuck it, hammer me right goddamn now. On April 03 2013 14:27 risk.nuke wrote: We're not lynching anyone other then hopeless. RoL you got to be joking if you think that we're going to lynch cheesecake first. While I agree with your posts and I had some thoughts in simmilar direction last night. It's still a weaker case then on hopeless. I don't like how you haven't talked about me since your vote and I would like you to comment further on me and hopeless. Hopeless is obvious scum and has pretty much given up by now. This is not how he plays as town. And Ghor's post are not hard to read. If you disregard the fact that he speaks in third person and often don't use capital letters they're actually very simple to read and even efficiently phrased. Sylencia. Who do you want to kill? I want to know how I play as town, risk. Please show me. risk.nuke's scumread on me is very weak imo, and he cites my meta as his main argument without demonstrating how I've deviated from my town meta or adhered to my scum meta. He's just made the statement that I'm not playing my town game and that I'm obvious scum. This is an incredibly lazy stance to take, and I want to see it substantiated before I die if possible. Alternatively, I'd like to see risk.nuke swing. | ||
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Okay, back to why risk.nuke is scum: Let me try again and actually explain why this shows a scum mentality. On April 02 2013 08:44 risk.nuke wrote: Show nested quote + On April 02 2013 08:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: On April 02 2013 08:37 risk.nuke wrote: Worst vote ever. On the contrary, best vote ever. I would argue that putting your vote on a townie is greatly suboptimal. 1) Soft-claim town. He didn't say "I'M TOWN", he said voting a townie is bad. 2) Now, I'm making some pretty blanket statements here, but I would expect: - Scum want to kill townies. - Townies want to kill scum. - Townies do not want to kill townies. The assumption of this post is that CC is town and should not want other townies to die. <---This is what I am calling as the slip, risk knows CC is town. + Show Spoiler + [CONFIRMATION BIAS] On April 02 2013 08:48 risk.nuke wrote: You want me to spoil the ending and hand you the key to the test? He has the answer key *hint hint* [/CONFIRMATION BIAS] risk.nuke is the original proponent of the Kenpachi rule in this game. He did this for no other reason than an errant observation. No alignment indicative thoughts on it. VE made his point about it already: + Show Spoiler + On April 02 2013 10:15 VisceraEyes wrote: I had a similar thought regarding risk.nuke. Why bring up the Kenpachi Rule at all if he had no intention of following it? My thoughts brought me to "He's scummy". He's either: 1) Scum trying to incriminate RoL innocuously by "joking" about Kenpachi Rule. 2) Town trying to trap someone into agreeing with his assessment and voting RoL. I ruled out 2 by asking him if he thought RoL was scum because of it, and he doesn't, which leaves 1). ##Vote: risk.nuke Conversely I'm very null on RoL. Abhorring my play-style is very NOT alignment indicative for that guy. Something I notice reading risk's filter is he keeps trying to defend himself regarding his handling of the Kenpachi Rule, saying that people have different opinions and that he doesn't use methods like that to find scum. However, when initially called out by VE, he insists that he was scumhunting Its not so much a backpedal as it is him trying to "say the right things" to me. Over the course of an hour, risk twice tells VE/RoL to stop tunneling On April 02 2013 09:45 risk.nuke wrote: VE, RoL. If you're going to tunnel-bitch-argue in the thread atleast argue about something remotely relevant. On April 02 2013 10:46 risk.nuke wrote: Show nested quote + On April 02 2013 10:43 VisceraEyes wrote: Can you point out where I've been talking about "the dangers of voting"? I'm pretty sure all I've talked about was how Lazer's and RoL's policies were retarded and unfair respectively. Will you please god damn stop tunneling? The thread have talked about it, I assume you read the thread? But does nothing to steer the direction himself, just has a voice to tell them to stop whatever it is that they are doing (later on this was ganging up on him). risk.nuke moves on to accuse me of not really being interested in finding scum, while at the same time calling EVERY NON-POSTING PERSON SCUMMY. + Show Spoiler + On April 02 2013 11:07 risk.nuke wrote: Viscera. Tunneling isn't about time, it's about not having an open mind. You lashed out at me instantly and agressively for the smallest thing so clearly you're looking at me as if I am scum and are trying to find things things that are scummy about me to confirm that belief. Aka tunneling. You want REAL scummy shit. Everyone that's not posting are scummier then those who are posting. For 2, I personally think Hopeless1der look very uninterested in finding scum. He goes to bed shortly after this, and upon waking up promises his "case" on On April 02 2013 20:58 risk.nuke wrote: Hopeless1der it started with this post. Show nested quote + On April 02 2013 10:07 Hopeless1der wrote: ghor, are we going to be fighting a language barrier with you or are you just trolling? He's pretty much around but doesn't do anything or comments on anything of worth. His three posts tells us he was around and this is what he choose to comment on? Compare to other filters, dessert fruity His other two posts one is a sheep-post where he talks briefly about hammers, which is fine but it doesn't really add anything. The second and last one is some cheap shots which mostly just serve to tell us he's not reading the thread and if he is he's just skimming through it without caring when we're 1½ pages. Really, it started with my second post in the game? Bro, I had 3 posts at the time of this "case". Read my first 3 posts of both of those filters and compare them to my first 3 posts here. If you can honestly tell me I look 100% scummier in this game than those 2, then fuck it, hammer me right goddamn now. On April 03 2013 14:27 risk.nuke wrote: We're not lynching anyone other then hopeless. RoL you got to be joking if you think that we're going to lynch cheesecake first. While I agree with your posts and I had some thoughts in simmilar direction last night. It's still a weaker case then on hopeless. I don't like how you haven't talked about me since your vote and I would like you to comment further on me and hopeless. Hopeless is obvious scum and has pretty much given up by now. This is not how he plays as town. And Ghor's post are not hard to read. If you disregard the fact that he speaks in third person and often don't use capital letters they're actually very simple to read and even efficiently phrased. Sylencia. Who do you want to kill? I want to know how I play as town, risk. Please show me. risk.nuke's scumread on me is very weak imo, and he cites my meta as his main argument without demonstrating how I've deviated from my town meta or adhered to my scum meta. He's just made the statement that I'm not playing my town game and that I'm obvious scum. This is an incredibly lazy stance to take, and I want to see it substantiated before I die if possible. Alternatively, I'd like to see risk.nuke swing. | ||
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On April 03 2013 22:34 Lazermonkey wrote: Show nested quote + Yes, I was just slightly suprised to see you defend yourself in that matter...On April 03 2013 22:30 Hopeless1der wrote: On April 03 2013 22:24 Lazermonkey wrote: On April 03 2013 22:15 Hopeless1der wrote: So you confess that you are looking scummy or what?On April 03 2013 22:09 AxleGreaser wrote: On April 03 2013 22:09 Hopeless1der wrote: On April 03 2013 22:08 AxleGreaser wrote: On April 03 2013 21:54 Hopeless1der wrote: Axle, if you're around, do you seriously believe I think there are 3 scum? You devoted a decent section of your case against me to something that literally cannot be true, unless Hapa is bastard modding No I don't seriously believe you think there are 3 scum in 9 player game. Who is your top scum read? risk > ghor at the moment, but I haven't re-read ghor yet. working on a risk case now. How did your case on Ghor get started? Hes a trolly jerkface who insulted my literacy skills. Also, relatively insistent that risk.nuke is scum, but wont hammer in order to find the "other scum". Upon finding said scum (sylencia), doesn't want to hammer risk.nuke anymore. Granted, I'm sailing the same boat but whatever.. I always look scummy, you're the one who's been defending me on that concept. Wouldn't be the first time. (Looney Lynching) | ||
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On April 03 2013 22:36 AxleGreaser wrote: Show nested quote + On April 03 2013 22:15 Hopeless1der wrote: On April 03 2013 22:09 AxleGreaser wrote: On April 03 2013 22:09 Hopeless1der wrote: On April 03 2013 22:08 AxleGreaser wrote: On April 03 2013 21:54 Hopeless1der wrote: Axle, if you're around, do you seriously believe I think there are 3 scum? You devoted a decent section of your case against me to something that literally cannot be true, unless Hapa is bastard modding No I don't seriously believe you think there are 3 scum in 9 player game. Who is your top scum read? risk > ghor at the moment, but I haven't re-read ghor yet. working on a risk case now. How did your case on Ghor get started? Hes a trolly jerkface who insulted my literacy skills. Also, relatively insistent that risk.nuke is scum, but wont hammer in order to find the "other scum". Upon finding said scum (sylencia), doesn't want to hammer risk.nuke anymore. Granted, I'm sailing the same boat but whatever.. That's strange... while that is where in your filter you first started mentioning Ghor... I did indeed find the argument over the scum slip interesting. In this post Show nested quote + On April 03 2013 01:59 Hopeless1der wrote: On April 03 2013 01:56 Ghor wrote: ghor think hopeless braindead if he thinks ghor teammate with risk. ghor pointed out fallacies with risk early, try get proper opinion on him from sylencia. All reasoning laid out, hopeless not absorb it. Hopeless, question: Ghor saw the scumslip you pointed out that was none. Ghor answered to your assessment, what do you deduce from it? (Ghor deduces it another example of hopeless amazing reading comprehension) it was what initially put me onto you as scum, so thank you for the compliment. You indicate that it was him not agreeing with your assessment of the scumslip. Now that is important to me in assessing the genuine nature of your scum hunting. it strike me that if you are reacting emotively to "a trolly jerkface who insulted my literacy skills" and when you find out that what you claimed was what originally put you onto him then at best you are seriously tunnel visioned... Wine that is easier to drink is that, you are scum, and not interested in whether or not your read started from false premise. (the false premise is Ghor not liking your scum slip indicated to you, he was scum) Its true that is not strong indicator, its true if I had better candidate id vote lynch them. Its not the only thing I said in that post by rather long shot. As you have noted its not possible that all the people who don't think that was scum slip are scum, there are just too many of us. So yes I regard that you do not seem to go back and actually critically evaluate your reads as scum indicative. it simply doesn't feel like genuine searching for the truth, just a glove that does or does not fit. BTW. I got a bad feeling the trolly jerk face probably fell off his chair when he read your last post. He insulted my literacy skills regarding the scumslip: + Show Spoiler + On April 02 2013 11:13 Ghor wrote: + Show Spoiler + On April 02 2013 10:49 Hopeless1der wrote: Show nested quote + On April 02 2013 10:44 risk.nuke wrote: On April 02 2013 10:29 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: ##unvote: VE ##Vote: Risk.nuke It's like you brought up the Kenpachi rule just to see if someone else was willing to run with it and kill me. Wanting townies to do your work for you? Why would I fake a perfectly legit argument? Show nested quote + On April 02 2013 09:50 risk.nuke wrote: On April 02 2013 09:47 VisceraEyes wrote: On April 02 2013 09:45 risk.nuke wrote: VE, RoL. If you're going to tunnel-bitch-argue in the thread atleast argue about something remotely relevant. If you're going to criticize me for anything, you should answer questions posed of you first. Do you think RoL is scum for "contesting" my "claim" a la Kenpachi Rule? No I don't. Doesn't seem all that legit to me. Show nested quote + On April 02 2013 08:44 risk.nuke wrote: On April 02 2013 08:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: On April 02 2013 08:37 risk.nuke wrote: Worst vote ever. On the contrary, best vote ever. I would argue that putting your vote on a townie is greatly suboptimal. Also, scumslip in that he knows CC is town. ghor think contradiction also very strong point.but ghor want long day. risk ok, risk on chopping block but no axe soon, axe later. wait for other information, milk day, find other scum. but that no scumslip, that was cc voting risk and risk saying he town and vote bad, you read thread pls hopeless.no offense. For low probability that risk do stupid mistake as town, 3 vote on risk mean scum can kill risk together. if risk town he can play harder than everyone else now and know if he does not, he dead. but need other opinion from not posting people first. no go quick with axe. Ploha. Oh wait he said "No offense". Clearly he has no malicious intent. | ||
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On April 03 2013 07:18 VisceraEyes wrote: Noted. I'm rereading right now. I totally missed that Ghor had made a case on Sylencia. I'm gonna go read that part of the day in context and see what I see. @VE for when you return, what came of this? @axle what in the actual fuck, i dont even? | ||
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On April 04 2013 00:52 Ghor wrote: Ghor very curious why hopeless never ask scummy sylencia why he want vote him. scummy sylencia only skating by hopeless lynch. and hopeless hardly mention sylencia or comment on what ghor said.look like not exist for each other in thread, maybe only in qt. sylencia not ask scumread CC question.sylencia not ask hopeless question. sylencia fake scumhunt. no hunt for information. he only try discredit ghor cause ghor close scumteam. Look in filter, what ghor say true. sylencia not interested in scumread, only passive say he lynch people. goes for ghor cause ghor look like troll, that initial reason. now only give other reason to stay on easy target. but ghor can stop troll if he want and sylencia very likely not stop tunnel. that cause sylencia scum. Indulge us, please. | ||
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On April 04 2013 01:19 Ghor wrote: Hopeless say what you think of sylencia instead of derping? Your reading mistakes made you look terrible, but not only, and I'm trying to get a scummier dude than you lynched, so stop martyring and start cooperating if you're town. HOLY SHIT HE STOPPED 3RD PERSON ##Unvote | ||
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On April 04 2013 01:34 risk.nuke wrote: I've been the most active player in the thread and half of the game have revolved around me. which is a product of you being scum, and the thread being reluctant to believe so easily. How is that alignment indicative? | ||
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On April 04 2013 06:40 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: I'm at work hiding my phone under the table... this is exciting! Is there no convincing you guys of a hopeless lynch instead? stop that plox, im not scum. come lynch sylencia with the cool kids. | ||
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His play has been to spam down anything that suggests he's scum. He claims to be one of the more active players, but my filter is just about as long as his. Instead of trying to push my lynch at deadline, he sits on his hands and refers to VE as the decision maker. Attempts to voteswitch last minute with the only reason being consolidation. No scumread on sylencia, but he's willing to let me slide for a day? Me voting sylencia makes sense as it was self preservation. Risk voting sylencia right at the last minute makes sense to avoid a no-lynch, but he didn't even try to push for my lynch and refuses to substantiate how "this isn't town Hopeless". | ||
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On April 05 2013 04:17 Lazermonkey wrote: Hopeless, why does any of the stuff you mention make risk scum? Do you actually think that it would've been better for us to have had a no lynch? Thats not even close to what I said. | ||
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On April 05 2013 04:44 Lazermonkey wrote: Show nested quote + The alternative for him would be a No-lynch. I was on the verge of voting you at that time as no lynch is really fucking terrible, does it make me scum?On April 05 2013 04:41 Hopeless1der wrote: No where do I suggest that a No-Lynch is a good idea. The apathy with which he was willing to vote Sylencia is my problem No, because you werent advocating my lynch all day with arguments such as On April 03 2013 03:17 risk.nuke wrote: I'm feeling confident hopeless is scum, I haven't gone over Sylencia yet. I don't have time now but I'll get back to you on him later. On April 03 2013 14:27 risk.nuke wrote: We're not lynching anyone other then hopeless. RoL you got to be joking if you think that we're going to lynch cheesecake first. While I agree with your posts and I had some thoughts in simmilar direction last night. It's still a weaker case then on hopeless. I don't like how you haven't talked about me since your vote and I would like you to comment further on me and hopeless. Hopeless is obvious scum and has pretty much given up by now. This is not how he plays as town. And Ghor's post are not hard to read. If you disregard the fact that he speaks in third person and often don't use capital letters they're actually very simple to read and even efficiently phrased. Sylencia. Who do you want to kill? On April 04 2013 05:50 risk.nuke wrote: Show nested quote + On April 04 2013 05:43 VisceraEyes wrote: On April 04 2013 05:38 risk.nuke wrote: Ghor, I'm glad you dropped the roleplay, even if it's just temporary it means you care enough for the lynch to stop rping and it says something about you. If hope is town I think it's very unlikely you're mafia and stopped rp'ing to prevent it. However if hope flips scum I'm going to have a real close look at you. I don't want you to say I'm town because I'm not playing like my scum meta. I generally don't play like this as town either. I would however like you to get your head out of your arse and see that I am scumhunting and contributing and understand that that is town behavior and therefor I am a bad lynch for today. Shut up. What do you think of Sylencia vs Hopeless lynch? lol... Where does it look like I stand? risk doesn't give a shit who got lynched, as long as it wasnt him. | ||
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On April 05 2013 04:55 Lazermonkey wrote: Show nested quote + What?! I was doing the EXACT same thing as risk was doing ( except the other way around). I pushed Sylencia the whole day, defended you and STILL was willing to vote you. So, please explain how Risks actions only makes him scum...On April 05 2013 04:48 Hopeless1der wrote: On April 05 2013 04:44 Lazermonkey wrote: On April 05 2013 04:41 Hopeless1der wrote: The alternative for him would be a No-lynch. I was on the verge of voting you at that time as no lynch is really fucking terrible, does it make me scum?No where do I suggest that a No-Lynch is a good idea. The apathy with which he was willing to vote Sylencia is my problem No, because you werent advocating my lynch all day with arguments such as On April 03 2013 03:17 risk.nuke wrote: I'm feeling confident hopeless is scum, I haven't gone over Sylencia yet. I don't have time now but I'll get back to you on him later. On April 03 2013 14:27 risk.nuke wrote: We're not lynching anyone other then hopeless. RoL you got to be joking if you think that we're going to lynch cheesecake first. While I agree with your posts and I had some thoughts in simmilar direction last night. It's still a weaker case then on hopeless. I don't like how you haven't talked about me since your vote and I would like you to comment further on me and hopeless. Hopeless is obvious scum and has pretty much given up by now. This is not how he plays as town. And Ghor's post are not hard to read. If you disregard the fact that he speaks in third person and often don't use capital letters they're actually very simple to read and even efficiently phrased. Sylencia. Who do you want to kill? On April 04 2013 05:50 risk.nuke wrote: On April 04 2013 05:43 VisceraEyes wrote: On April 04 2013 05:38 risk.nuke wrote: Ghor, I'm glad you dropped the roleplay, even if it's just temporary it means you care enough for the lynch to stop rping and it says something about you. If hope is town I think it's very unlikely you're mafia and stopped rp'ing to prevent it. However if hope flips scum I'm going to have a real close look at you. I don't want you to say I'm town because I'm not playing like my scum meta. I generally don't play like this as town either. I would however like you to get your head out of your arse and see that I am scumhunting and contributing and understand that that is town behavior and therefor I am a bad lynch for today. Shut up. What do you think of Sylencia vs Hopeless lynch? lol... Where does it look like I stand? risk doesn't give a shit who got lynched, as long as it wasnt him. risk didn't push me. You pushed sylencia. Do you not see a difference in the way you and risk have played, because I see one. | ||
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On April 05 2013 06:02 risk.nuke wrote: Hopeless, I'm still waiting for you to explain to me in detail how you have a townread on ghor and a scumread on me. Where in the hell do you see townread? Like fucking woooooowwww stop putting shit in my mouth, it tastes terrible. | ||
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B) wont vote us in the interim suggests to me that RoL is town. Ghor has made perfect sense regarding what he finds suspicious about risk.nuke. Lazer, you made some reference to ghor is trying to cover up a lie. On April 05 2013 23:59 Lazermonkey wrote: Show nested quote + He is making sense alot of sense. Ghor is trying to justify his lie by bringing up the most crazy fucking accusations I've seen in a while. What about you?On April 05 2013 23:48 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Hey Lazer, got a minute to talk? I need to shine my mind-control beams through your eyes some more. What do you think about Risk in the past few pages? Can you clarify what was going on here, because I thought ghor was going after risk, and you seemed concerned about CC for some reason. | ||
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On April 07 2013 12:17 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Alright fuck this. We are killing VisceraEyes because I said so. ##vote: VisceraEyes If cheesecake was scum this thread would not be dead and people would be talking. We are most likely barking up the wrong tree so fuck it. We are killing VisceraEyes because I said so and I don't feel like providing any other reasoning apart from saying that he is one of 3 people I am suspicious of. DO IT UP ##Unvote:risk.nuke ##Vote: RebirthOfLeGenD | ||
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On April 09 2013 03:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Stupid logic to me. Anyway, I'd like to wrap this lynch up soon. If we have another "FUCK, LAST MINUTE HAMMER" situation things will not turn out well. Hopeless, I said speak, not vote! I have revised my read on ghor to town. risk is still scum and I want him dead today. | ||
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On April 10 2013 08:45 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: When have you ever expressed any thoughts of me being scum hopeless? What made you so sure now? The culmination of days upon days of promised activity and reads was summed up in: On April 07 2013 12:17 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Alright fuck this. We are killing VisceraEyes because I said so. ##vote: VisceraEyes If cheesecake was scum this thread would not be dead and people would be talking. We are most likely barking up the wrong tree so fuck it. We are killing VisceraEyes because I said so and I don't feel like providing any other reasoning apart from saying that he is one of 3 people I am suspicious of. DO IT UP | ||
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