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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 23 2013 15:01 GMT
#1121
On April 23 2013 23:56 Palmar wrote:
BC's town meta is to be awful at day 1, then get lynched.

I'd like to not lynch him later.

VE is still scum.

Furthermore, letting BC skate by through day 1 just because he's awful as town even on day 1 is bullshit.

I lynch mafia, and BC is mafia.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 23 2013 15:02 GMT
#1122
Let's not hammer Oats when his wagon is just a carbon copy of mine.

Kthnxbye.
Writer@WriterYamato
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
April 23 2013 15:03 GMT
#1123
On April 24 2013 00:02 yamato77 wrote:
Let's not hammer Oats when his wagon is just a carbon copy of mine.

Kthnxbye.


I forgot again why not hammer either of you
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
April 23 2013 15:03 GMT
#1124
On April 24 2013 00:02 yamato77 wrote:
Let's not hammer Oats when his wagon is just a carbon copy of mine.

Kthnxbye.


Yet you actually provide something for us to go off in comparison to Oats.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 23 2013 15:04 GMT
#1125
On April 24 2013 00:03 ShiaoPi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 00:02 yamato77 wrote:
Let's not hammer Oats when his wagon is just a carbon copy of mine.

Kthnxbye.


I forgot again why not hammer either of you

Because the reasoning of us being mafia is largely bullshit, and confirmation bias about our contributions this game being survival based are bullshit?

Why is Oats posting more when he's about to die a trait that is exclusively reserved for mafia? Do town just want to get lynched without putting up a fight? The assumption is a bad one.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 23 2013 15:07 GMT
#1126
On April 24 2013 00:03 Sylencia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 00:02 yamato77 wrote:
Let's not hammer Oats when his wagon is just a carbon copy of mine.

Kthnxbye.


Yet you actually provide something for us to go off in comparison to Oats.

I'm fairly confident he's not mafia based on the fact that Oats' wagon encounters ZERO resistance up to this point, and the fact that his posting lately IS more what I expect out of town Oats.

Just because people don't necessarily play up to your expectation of the ideal state of the game does not mean you lynch them, if you want to win. I want to win. I'm willing to let Oats be silly, so long as I believe he's town.
Writer@WriterYamato
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
April 23 2013 15:08 GMT
#1127
The question is much more why the fuck is he being silly if he is town?
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22106 Posts
April 23 2013 15:08 GMT
#1128
Scummy: Yamato, clarity,

Semi-Scummy: Palmar, WoS, OO, BM, ShiaoPi

Null: BC, Rayn, Hopeless, VE

Townie: Everyone else

No medic for me if Oats flips red, thx.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22106 Posts
April 23 2013 15:08 GMT
#1129
Can someone be so kind to hammer now.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 23 2013 15:09 GMT
#1130
Furthermore, people expect me to post cases and get involved in the game.

I did not do that early on, so people wanted to lynch me, and rightly so. Now I'm doing that, and even if people don't agree with me, they find it hard to want to lynch me. Why is that?
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 23 2013 15:09 GMT
#1131
On April 24 2013 00:08 ShiaoPi wrote:
The question is much more why the fuck is he being silly if he is town?

Because he's always that way as town?
Writer@WriterYamato
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
April 23 2013 15:09 GMT
#1132
On April 23 2013 23:49 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 11:39 Clarity_nl wrote:
On April 23 2013 11:34 Bill Murray wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:34 Clarity_nl wrote:
I am here now and catching up, did not expect this game to start so soon, sorry.

one hour later has read the entire game and made a case on sharrant?
his case is really tunnely, and reaching, as well
FoS Clarity


Yeah okay I might have started reading and then figured I would read the last two pages and see palmar talking about possibly being the hammervote so figured I'd show my face. interested why you think my case is reaching, though.


I find this quote interesting. Clarity apparently was afraid of not posting anything before the hammer fell, and here he is admitting that his case on Sharrant was something done in haste, and to "show his face", not cause he found the reasons good enough to post them so quickly.


Hi Vivax. When you say interesting, what do you mean? Because pointing out something as interesting and seeing if anyone else jumps on it is interesting.

Erm, yes I wanted to get a couple of posts in before day 1 ended, and I didn't just want it to be "I'm here guys", I do possess some self preservation. I figured if I showed my face maybe people would hold off on hammering and give me a chance to catch up. Turns out palmar wasn't even close to hammering but w/e, I wasn't sure.

And I did find reasons, maybe the case isn't well worded or convincing but it is in essence why I believe he's scum.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 23 2013 15:10 GMT
#1133
On April 24 2013 00:08 Vivax wrote:
Scummy: Yamato, clarity,

Semi-Scummy: Palmar, WoS, OO, BM, ShiaoPi

Null: BC, Rayn, Hopeless, VE

Townie: Everyone else

No medic for me if Oats flips red, thx.

Maybe you scum.
Writer@WriterYamato
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 23 2013 15:10 GMT
#1134
On April 24 2013 00:03 Sylencia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 00:02 yamato77 wrote:
Let's not hammer Oats when his wagon is just a carbon copy of mine.

Kthnxbye.


Yet you actually provide something for us to go off in comparison to Oats.

Again bullshit that I dont post a 5 page case = I am not useful.
No gg, No skill.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 23 2013 15:10 GMT
#1135
CLARITY

LYNCH BC WITH ME.

IT'S THE WAGON OF RIGHTEOUS JUSTICE.

LET YOUR NEW EMPEROR REIGN.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 23 2013 15:12 GMT
#1136
OATS

I WILL SAVE YOU

LYNCH THE COBBLER

FUCK PALMAR
Writer@WriterYamato
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
April 23 2013 15:13 GMT
#1137
Fuck it I am hammering oats now
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
April 23 2013 15:13 GMT
#1138
On April 24 2013 00:07 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 00:03 Sylencia wrote:
On April 24 2013 00:02 yamato77 wrote:
Let's not hammer Oats when his wagon is just a carbon copy of mine.

Kthnxbye.


Yet you actually provide something for us to go off in comparison to Oats.

I'm fairly confident he's not mafia based on the fact that Oats' wagon encounters ZERO resistance up to this point, and the fact that his posting lately IS more what I expect out of town Oats.

Just because people don't necessarily play up to your expectation of the ideal state of the game does not mean you lynch them, if you want to win. I want to win. I'm willing to let Oats be silly, so long as I believe he's town.


If you're at L-1, you provide whatever reads you have. Look at his list of reads from this morning. Out of the 4 scum "reads" he has listed, 3 of them I believe were "I feel like they are scum" or "because someone has to be scum". It's bare minimal, counterproductive for if he does flip green, and nothing else he has said has really been of any content.

It's not like I hold a high standard for what is good play and what people should be doing, I'm horrible myself for that situation, but what use is it if Oats is not giving us anything when others ask? All I ask for is even just 1 or 2 reads with some explanation other than feel based reads.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22106 Posts
April 23 2013 15:13 GMT
#1139
On April 24 2013 00:09 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 23:49 Vivax wrote:
On April 23 2013 11:39 Clarity_nl wrote:
On April 23 2013 11:34 Bill Murray wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:34 Clarity_nl wrote:
I am here now and catching up, did not expect this game to start so soon, sorry.

one hour later has read the entire game and made a case on sharrant?
his case is really tunnely, and reaching, as well
FoS Clarity


Yeah okay I might have started reading and then figured I would read the last two pages and see palmar talking about possibly being the hammervote so figured I'd show my face. interested why you think my case is reaching, though.


I find this quote interesting. Clarity apparently was afraid of not posting anything before the hammer fell, and here he is admitting that his case on Sharrant was something done in haste, and to "show his face", not cause he found the reasons good enough to post them so quickly.


Hi Vivax. When you say interesting, what do you mean? Because pointing out something as interesting and seeing if anyone else jumps on it is interesting.

Erm, yes I wanted to get a couple of posts in before day 1 ended, and I didn't just want it to be "I'm here guys", I do possess some self preservation. I figured if I showed my face maybe people would hold off on hammering and give me a chance to catch up. Turns out palmar wasn't even close to hammering but w/e, I wasn't sure.

And I did find reasons, maybe the case isn't well worded or convincing but it is in essence why I believe he's scum.


When I say interesting, I mean that you seemed to prioritize self-preservation and good-looking stuff over actual involvement and attempts at finding scum.

Your case against Sharrant looks like you bought it at a fastfood-chain. I prefer people who honestly admit that they can't be up to date with the thread information instead of those who cook quick cases which look like they only had the purpose of self-presentation.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
April 23 2013 15:13 GMT
#1140
You think BC saying "post scumreads not townreads" is scummy?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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