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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
April 22 2013 12:39 GMT
#721
sry didn't mean to flame. I mean your back and forth with shsrrant was unproductive and disruptive
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 22 2013 12:40 GMT
#722
EBWOP: Above was to Hopeless.

I really need some people who can actually think here. I'm not interested in continuing this discussion with kush/Hopeless/Sylencia because they clearly can't read.
table for two on a tv tray
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 22 2013 13:07 GMT
#723
Can't you guys just stop and think for a second. You both could be scum you know.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
April 22 2013 13:08 GMT
#724
On April 22 2013 21:03 TheRavensName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 20:45 Sylencia wrote:


On April 22 2013 05:20 Sharrant wrote:
Noticed this too, I think Sylencia would be a good lynch today as well.


Based on one statement I make which isn't indicative of anything whatsoever makes you think I'm scummy? It's fine if you're accusing me if you have a case but casual accusations with no followups don't sit well with me since it ends up being bait for people to jump on.


On April 22 2013 10:46 TheRavensName wrote:
Its enough that I like him a little more then everyone else. I am taking it with a grain of salt though. I was under the impression that out of 25 people one should do what they can to try and limit the number just a little bit to a more managable size.


I'm somewhat doing the same, so I'm wondering how you can see someone as town without looking at the whole picture. I haven't really got any town reads due to this, but the fact you're able to either means you're doing something wrong, or you know something we don't.

- Following from this there's a clear TRN-Sharrant-Rayn argument breaking out, with Sharrant backtracking on past accusations and rayn aggressively defending while accusing Sharrant as well.

Rayn: Pushing for all millers to die (and voting on it) on day 1 honestly doesn't sound like a great plan. It wastes days where there's actually stuff to analyse, it creates a lazy town atmosphere which only helps scum, and with that comes a lot less conversation. You said you thought that BM was scum but what makes him so much more scummy at the time than someone else with low number of posts and providing just words and not content (eg. me)?

In any case:
On April 22 2013 01:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyone who claims miller on D1 should be lynched.

##Vote: Bill Murray


On April 22 2013 07:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not trying to "policy lynch" BM. I think BM is scum. Bringing up the miller policy into this discussion adds nothing, because it's irrelevant regarding my reasons for wanting to lynch BM.


This looks so dumb honestly.

Ok, I'm done for now, ##vote rayn at the moment because of the weirdest irregularities in posts.

Sharrant's done that a lot this game.

As for Rayn, I guess I don't know what to think about him right now. It doesn't help the two real people until this oint that have been attacking my town read on him are people I dislike so... there is that. But when I read Rayn's statement about the miller lynch being more of a scummy time to claim then because hes a miller it makes more sense to me, especially when you couple with BM lurked for quite a bit after his claim then coming back and calling it a joke when he comes back and see people were upset with it and it lends itself to the gamble of: "I'm mr Mafia, please don't check me cause I am the miller and don't worry about me guys cause I'm town and you all bought that right?" But that is just my opinion.


he didn't lurk, he clearly said he was sleeping :\ and I'm not saying millers shouldn't get lynched at some point, I was saying there's better days in choosing to do so. Doing it on day 1 is literally asking to

On April 22 2013 21:04 kushm4sta wrote:
@Sylencia I'm having trouble understanding your scumread/vote on rayn.
Right now it looks like you are voting him because he wanted to lynch BM due to his claiming, but said it wasn't a policy lynch.
Is that it?

Rayn thinks the claim makes BM scum. That is why he doesn't consider it a policy lynch. I get how it can seem like a contradiction, but it all comes down to how you define the phrase "policy lynch."


It really didn't seem phrased that way when it was first put down, if you're going to say he's scummy by posting a claim wouldn't you say it straight rather than "all miller claims should be lynched"?

On April 22 2013 21:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP: Above was to Hopeless.

I really need some people who can actually think here. I'm not interested in continuing this discussion with kush/Hopeless/Sylencia because they clearly can't read.


On April 22 2013 01:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because the OP clearly states there can be multiple number of same roles, so discussing if there are one or more self-aware millers in stupid in the first place.

Anyone who claims miller on D1 should be lynched.

##Vote: Bill Murray


Again, where do I see "Bill Murray is scummy" in this?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 22 2013 13:35 GMT
#725
On April 22 2013 06:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 05:48 ObviousOne wrote:
One more filter then I'm going to go level my Priest some more.

Oh. My. God. Tube is in this game. LOL. HI TUBE! (we played in a newbie together, my first game! He hasn't posted anything so skipping for now.)

Raynpelikoneet, sorry to pick on you again for like the third straight game in a row together. You want to lynch the "claimed miller" Bill Murray, you have made your stance on lynching millers abundantly clear, but I don't see anything that looks like it's developing into an actual scum read. Why are you leaning so heavily on your policy lynch when there are mafia to be lynched? Also, assume BM isn't here for a moment, who do you lynch?


I read BM's post as a miller claim. If it wasn't, he needs to explain this:
- What was the purpose of making that post? There is no reason for a townie to say anything that does not lead into finding scum or proving their towniness. I don't see that post achieving either of those things.

If the claim was actually real, i want BM to explain why he thought it was a good idea to claim miller D1. Millers should not claim. All it does is that it tells the thread that they will give out a red result if checked by a cop. Why would you be a good cop check in the first place if you are town? You should prove you are town by your actions so that there is no reason for anyone to assume you are mafia, and the cops should check suspicious people instead. Claiming miller on D1 is extremely suspicious because it already shows you are afraid of being checked by a cop. If you are a miller, and are checked, so what? Tough luck, then you claim and town will believe you or not. But the place to claim is not the start of D1.

This is not a policy lynch, BM's miller claim post is scummy.


About Sharrant. Sharrant accuses TRN of things. The case in itself is not scummy and i could see someone seeing TRN's posts in that light, i just don't get the same feeling from TRN's posts. Having played with him on NMXXXIX, i can tell that he has no idea how to act in the start of the game. Here he seems to be trying to figure out things and share his thoughts about stuff he is asked about. Fine, why is Sharrant scummy?

- He's discussing the "policy lynch BM" matter but does not reach any kind of a conclusion that points towards this particular situation.
- Asks TRN about his last games. It's not TRN's job to find those games to him. It's Sharrant's job to find out TRN's affiliation and TRN wasting time on telling him about his last games is a waste of time that does not help TRN find mafia. Seems like Sharrant is lazy and does not want to find out things on his own. Townies should not do that.

TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 22 2013 14:38 GMT
#726
Rayn your righyt and I want to apologize, that was jarjar and rainbows who said that. I apparently need to pretend that game never happened because I,m still not sure I know lol. Please don't use this crucify me again all day 1 for it even if its more fitting this time.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
April 22 2013 15:02 GMT
#727
It's a good try, Rayne, but no.

Let's get this out of the way quickly because I have to leave, and there's more important things to do when I'm back.

The reason I looked into you is because of your chainsaw defense of TRN. That fit exactly what I was looking for, so I went through your filter.

I am not trying to lynch you on the merit of you defending TRN, get that through your head. I am going to get you lynched because you are scum. You claim that after posting several times about how miller claims should be a policy lynch, you say that it's not a policy lynch you're pushing on BM. The closest you come to make to a case is "This isn't a miller lynch policy, I'm lynching him because he claimed miller which is scummy" which is exactly the same as saying "No, this isn't a lurker lynch, I'm just lynching because his low activity is scummy". It's just attempting to disguise that you were trying to policy lynch him.

The post I voted for you details exactly why I have you as a scum read. The possibility that you were a townie who made some crazy defense on TRN went out the window when I read through your filter.

If you can't understand that, I can't help you.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
April 22 2013 15:03 GMT
#728
On April 22 2013 13:40 Bill Murray wrote:
and idc if they're unhappy. i have 1 vote on me. i didnt "pull any stunts". I was entering the thread in the random voting stage, and goofing off mildly, because I am happy that I rolled a good role for my win %.


Town: 10-6
Scum: 4-1
3p: 1-1

Great scum win % = scum???

(relax, i'm joking)
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 22 2013 15:08 GMT
#729
Anyone else want to lynch ShiaoPi? Because I want to lynch ShiaPi.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 22 2013 15:13 GMT
#730
He just attacks Sharrant which makes me sad because Sharrant is so townie looking imo. He literally ignored everything else in the thread to go ahead and poop on Sharrant. Also buddying up TRN
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 22 2013 15:31 GMT
#731
List of probably town:

Bill Murray
getmoript (QT thing)
Vivax
slot machine dude
hopeless

list of maybe town:

Ace
grush
cheesecake
kush
Sylencia
TheRavensName

list of who knows:

WaveofShadow
Tube
Drazak
Clarity_nl
Sharrant
Yamato77
ShiaoPi

list of bloodycobblers:

BloodyCobbler

list of somewhat scummy fuckers (based on absolutely nothing):

DoctorHelvetica
ObviousOne
Oatsmaster
giggles
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 22 2013 15:31 GMT
#732
notice how I omitted VE.

That's how I feel about him right now.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 22 2013 15:33 GMT
#733
lazy ve is scum ve

##Vote VisceraEyes
Computer says mafia
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22106 Posts
April 22 2013 15:35 GMT
#734
I wouldn't mind a policy lynch for D1 though.

I feel mixed about Rayn, hopeless spends his energies on arguing why a heuristic that doesn't matter at all was wrong, when the point about him being scummy is precisely that discussing the heuristic is entirely unproductive and shouldn't concern town. The point about him being scum is not the heuristic, it's about being interested in stuff that shouldn't concern townies.

Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 22 2013 15:40 GMT
#735
ok sharrant gets upgraded to maybe town.
Computer says mafia
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22106 Posts
April 22 2013 15:40 GMT
#736
I also have a name for the policy lynch currently: Drazak, and basically everyone who comes in before deadline to drop a small first post and a sheepy vote or a vote with some half-assed reasons.

Palmar, care to tell me why hopeless is town in your opinion? It might help me shorten my list of possible scum.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 22 2013 15:43 GMT
#737
cause effort?
Computer says mafia
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 22 2013 15:43 GMT
#738
##Vote: giggles

GOO HAMMER NOW
No gg, No skill.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 22 2013 15:43 GMT
#739
also if we policy lynch it's going to be drh or clarity, probably drh. (notice how he is more scummy for not posting than clarity).
Computer says mafia
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 22 2013 15:43 GMT
#740
shits next.
No gg, No skill.
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