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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 22 2013 15:48 GMT
#741
also being inactive in this game is unusally scummy because BH sent a pm to everyone in the game 24 hours before the game started which required a response to be in the game.

So everyone here is fully aware when the game started and reminded of it very close to the start of the game. So being afk or saying nothing is almost inexcusable.
Computer says mafia
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 22 2013 15:50 GMT
#742
Im down with a policy lynch.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
April 22 2013 15:51 GMT
#743
~~~ Vote Count! ~~~

Oatsmaster:
Palmar, kushm4sta, GiygaS (1)
Hopeless1der:
Vivax (1)
Bill Murray:
raynpelikoneet (0)
Getmoript:
Mr. Cheesecake, kushm4sta,WaveofShadow (0)
TheRavensName:
Sharrant (0)
Raynpelikoneet:
Sharrant, Sylencia, Hopeless1der (3)
Ace:
Yamato, Bill Murray (2)
Sharrant:
raynpelikoneet (1)
Yamato:
kushm4sta (1)
VisceraEyes:
Palmar (1)

Remember, this Day ends when a majority is reached. As soon as a majority is reached, please stop posting until the Night Post has been posted. Only votes in the voting thread will be counted! The voting thread can be found here: (link)

With 25 alive it takes 13 votes to lynch.

♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
April 22 2013 15:55 GMT
#744
On April 23 2013 00:48 Palmar wrote:
also being inactive in this game is unusally scummy because BH sent a pm to everyone in the game 24 hours before the game started which required a response to be in the game.

So everyone here is fully aware when the game started and reminded of it very close to the start of the game. So being afk or saying nothing is almost inexcusable.


I don't see Rayn in your list.
He's among the Who knows I suppose?

Took a look at OO. His posts look very thought out, but I can't draw the line between thought out and artificial yet. He does tell us quite a bit about how he's going to look through filters and stuff, instead of directly getting to the point with the conclusion he gets out of them. That reads somewhat scummy to me, and he seems kinda self-centered in his posts.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 22 2013 16:08 GMT
#745
Hey don't vote for me. I'm not scum, and I'm not going to get lynched. It's like...a super huge waste of your time Palmar. You don't strike me as one to waste your own time. :/
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
April 22 2013 16:09 GMT
#746
actually the pm bh sent just had people respond if they weren't interested. So being inactive is not unusually scummy.

also ve is not scum. he came in the thread saying "damn pm made me read op"
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
April 22 2013 16:15 GMT
#747
CC, let's talk a little. Who do we lynch? I do like ShiaoPi as lynch as well, so do we start making cases and stuff or do you think we should stick to a policy?
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 22 2013 16:25 GMT
#748
On April 23 2013 01:15 Vivax wrote:
CC, let's talk a little. Who do we lynch? I do like ShiaoPi as lynch as well, so do we start making cases and stuff or do you think we should stick to a policy?

What policy are you advocating/open to exactly? A lurker lynch or did I miss anoth
er policy that wasn't the miller claim one?

I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 22 2013 16:31 GMT
#749
I want to lynch BM. His antagonistic response to BC is too telling - reminds me of when he was protecting me in Boardwalk from the jackals.

Yamato looks bad too, I never like the excuse "Oh well you know my posting was INTENTIONALLY bad".

##Vote: Bill Murray
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
April 22 2013 16:32 GMT
#750
I'll probably take hopeless out of my scumspects for now. Not every bad idea is necessarily a scum agenda, meh. I do hold in high regard that he actually goes against Rayn, as he's another guy I'd lynch.

On April 23 2013 01:25 TheRavensName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 01:15 Vivax wrote:
CC, let's talk a little. Who do we lynch? I do like ShiaoPi as lynch as well, so do we start making cases and stuff or do you think we should stick to a policy?

What policy are you advocating/open to exactly? A lurker lynch or did I miss anoth
er policy that wasn't the miller claim one?



Either Drazak for excusing himself out (ask for replacement if you can't play the game), or people showing up late in the day without some damn good contributions. A damn good contribution isn't a huge post with a vote at the end, like RyuSuzaku in The game™, who rolled scum.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 22 2013 16:35 GMT
#751
On April 23 2013 01:32 Vivax wrote:
I'll probably take hopeless out of my scumspects for now. Not every bad idea is necessarily a scum agenda, meh. I do hold in high regard that he actually goes against Rayn, as he's another guy I'd lynch.

Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 01:25 TheRavensName wrote:
On April 23 2013 01:15 Vivax wrote:
CC, let's talk a little. Who do we lynch? I do like ShiaoPi as lynch as well, so do we start making cases and stuff or do you think we should stick to a policy?

What policy are you advocating/open to exactly? A lurker lynch or did I miss anoth
er policy that wasn't the miller claim one?



Either Drazak for excusing himself out (ask for replacement if you can't play the game), or people showing up late in the day without some damn good contributions. A damn good contribution isn't a huge post with a vote at the end, like RyuSuzaku in The game™, who rolled scum.

you wanna clear that vote you have on me that went relatively unnoticed?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
April 22 2013 16:38 GMT
#752
I think I'll leave it there, cause I simply DETEST AND HATE the way you're playing. Didn't you learn anything from Noir Mini or are you pathologically shy?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 22 2013 16:41 GMT
#753
On April 23 2013 00:02 Sharrant wrote:
It's a good try, Rayne, but no.

Let's get this out of the way quickly because I have to leave, and there's more important things to do when I'm back.

The reason I looked into you is because of your chainsaw defense of TRN. That fit exactly what I was looking for, so I went through your filter.

I am not trying to lynch you on the merit of you defending TRN, get that through your head. I am going to get you lynched because you are scum. You claim that after posting several times about how miller claims should be a policy lynch, you say that it's not a policy lynch you're pushing on BM. The closest you come to make to a case is "This isn't a miller lynch policy, I'm lynching him because he claimed miller which is scummy" which is exactly the same as saying "No, this isn't a lurker lynch, I'm just lynching because his low activity is scummy". It's just attempting to disguise that you were trying to policy lynch him.

The post I voted for you details exactly why I have you as a scum read. The possibility that you were a townie who made some crazy defense on TRN went out the window when I read through your filter.

If you can't understand that, I can't help you.


Ahh so you went back on the policy lynch thing. Then why did you say you agreed with me?
I will deal with this post after BM gets back, but as I have agreed with Rayne I will not discuss this any farther until such time.

I did not know if BM claimed miller or not, that's the sole reason why it can't be a policy lynch. Yes, i would lynch anyone who claimed miller on D1, but i can't policy lynch BM because i didn't know if he claimed miller or not, so this particular situation is not a disguise to policy lynch someone because it CANNOT BE SO IN THE FIRST PLACE!
Fuck, why is reading so hard for you guys?

- Why did you agree with your scumread TRN about me saying stuff that i have never said?
- Why did you make a big post focusing on entire different things on me being scum than in the post you voted me on?
- Why did you agree with me and now again backpedal from your latest theory?
table for two on a tv tray
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 22 2013 16:42 GMT
#754
so...its a pressure vote on someone you think is less scum than other players....are you sure you know how to play this game?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 22 2013 16:42 GMT
#755
Vivax:
I'll probably take hopeless out of my scumspects for now. Not every bad idea is necessarily a scum agenda, meh. I do hold in high regard that he actually goes against Rayn, as he's another guy I'd lynch.

That doesn't tell shit because i'm town.
table for two on a tv tray
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 22 2013 16:44 GMT
#756
On April 23 2013 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 00:02 Sharrant wrote:
It's a good try, Rayne, but no.

Let's get this out of the way quickly because I have to leave, and there's more important things to do when I'm back.

The reason I looked into you is because of your chainsaw defense of TRN. That fit exactly what I was looking for, so I went through your filter.

I am not trying to lynch you on the merit of you defending TRN, get that through your head. I am going to get you lynched because you are scum. You claim that after posting several times about how miller claims should be a policy lynch, you say that it's not a policy lynch you're pushing on BM. The closest you come to make to a case is "This isn't a miller lynch policy, I'm lynching him because he claimed miller which is scummy" which is exactly the same as saying "No, this isn't a lurker lynch, I'm just lynching because his low activity is scummy". It's just attempting to disguise that you were trying to policy lynch him.

The post I voted for you details exactly why I have you as a scum read. The possibility that you were a townie who made some crazy defense on TRN went out the window when I read through your filter.

If you can't understand that, I can't help you.


Ahh so you went back on the policy lynch thing. Then why did you say you agreed with me?
Show nested quote +
I will deal with this post after BM gets back, but as I have agreed with Rayne I will not discuss this any farther until such time.

I did not know if BM claimed miller or not, that's the sole reason why it can't be a policy lynch. Yes, i would lynch anyone who claimed miller on D1, but i can't policy lynch BM because i didn't know if he claimed miller or not, so this particular situation is not a disguise to policy lynch someone because it CANNOT BE SO IN THE FIRST PLACE!
Fuck, why is reading so hard for you guys?


- Why did you agree with your scumread TRN about me saying stuff that i have never said?
- Why did you make a big post focusing on entire different things on me being scum than in the post you voted me on?
- Why did you agree with me and now again backpedal from your latest theory?


On April 22 2013 06:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 05:48 ObviousOne wrote:
One more filter then I'm going to go level my Priest some more.

Oh. My. God. Tube is in this game. LOL. HI TUBE! (we played in a newbie together, my first game! He hasn't posted anything so skipping for now.)

Raynpelikoneet, sorry to pick on you again for like the third straight game in a row together. You want to lynch the "claimed miller" Bill Murray, you have made your stance on lynching millers abundantly clear, but I don't see anything that looks like it's developing into an actual scum read. Why are you leaning so heavily on your policy lynch when there are mafia to be lynched? Also, assume BM isn't here for a moment, who do you lynch?


I read BM's post as a miller claim. If it wasn't, he needs to explain this:
- What was the purpose of making that post? There is no reason for a townie to say anything that does not lead into finding scum or proving their towniness. I don't see that post achieving either of those things.

If the claim was actually real, i want BM to explain why he thought it was a good idea to claim miller D1. Millers should not claim. All it does is that it tells the thread that they will give out a red result if checked by a cop. Why would you be a good cop check in the first place if you are town? You should prove you are town by your actions so that there is no reason for anyone to assume you are mafia, and the cops should check suspicious people instead. Claiming miller on D1 is extremely suspicious because it already shows you are afraid of being checked by a cop. If you are a miller, and are checked, so what? Tough luck, then you claim and town will believe you or not. But the place to claim is not the start of D1.

This is not a policy lynch, BM's miller claim post is scummy.


About Sharrant. Sharrant accuses TRN of things. The case in itself is not scummy and i could see someone seeing TRN's posts in that light, i just don't get the same feeling from TRN's posts. Having played with him on NMXXXIX, i can tell that he has no idea how to act in the start of the game. Here he seems to be trying to figure out things and share his thoughts about stuff he is asked about. Fine, why is Sharrant scummy?

- He's discussing the "policy lynch BM" matter but does not reach any kind of a conclusion that points towards this particular situation.
- Asks TRN about his last games. It's not TRN's job to find those games to him. It's Sharrant's job to find out TRN's affiliation and TRN wasting time on telling him about his last games is a waste of time that does not help TRN find mafia. Seems like Sharrant is lazy and does not want to find out things on his own. Townies should not do that.


Readings not so bad....
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 22 2013 16:48 GMT
#757
Yes and right after:
"If it wasn't, he needs to explain this:"
table for two on a tv tray
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
April 22 2013 16:57 GMT
#758
Currently reviewing Rayn cause unsure. Actually, would not lynch today.
Hopeless pisses me off.

Let's get a somewhat methodical approach to this since it's turning into shit-throwing.

Hopeless : Why is Rayn scum? Why do you lurk like a mofo?

Rayn: What would be your course of action today if you couldn't lynch Sharrant? I see that you two get into each other's hair for stuff that proves the other to be wrong on something (You for saying controversial stuff about BM, he for saying you're trying to take credit from TRN's defense)
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 22 2013 16:57 GMT
#759
On April 23 2013 01:32 Vivax wrote:
I'll probably take hopeless out of my scumspects for now. Not every bad idea is necessarily a scum agenda, meh. I do hold in high regard that he actually goes against Rayn, as he's another guy I'd lynch.

Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 01:25 TheRavensName wrote:
On April 23 2013 01:15 Vivax wrote:
CC, let's talk a little. Who do we lynch? I do like ShiaoPi as lynch as well, so do we start making cases and stuff or do you think we should stick to a policy?

What policy are you advocating/open to exactly? A lurker lynch or did I miss anoth
er policy that wasn't the miller claim one?



Either Drazak for excusing himself out (ask for replacement if you can't play the game), or people showing up late in the day without some damn good contributions. A damn good contribution isn't a huge post with a vote at the end, like RyuSuzaku in The game™, who rolled scum.

Ah I see. And your active scumspect is Ray? My lab is about to start so I can't really glance through all the lurkers right now but personally I would rather lynch someone more scummy and active, so many lurkers that its such a crap shoot on hitting a right one.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
April 22 2013 17:01 GMT
#760
On April 23 2013 01:57 TheRavensName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 01:32 Vivax wrote:
I'll probably take hopeless out of my scumspects for now. Not every bad idea is necessarily a scum agenda, meh. I do hold in high regard that he actually goes against Rayn, as he's another guy I'd lynch.

On April 23 2013 01:25 TheRavensName wrote:
On April 23 2013 01:15 Vivax wrote:
CC, let's talk a little. Who do we lynch? I do like ShiaoPi as lynch as well, so do we start making cases and stuff or do you think we should stick to a policy?

What policy are you advocating/open to exactly? A lurker lynch or did I miss anoth
er policy that wasn't the miller claim one?



Either Drazak for excusing himself out (ask for replacement if you can't play the game), or people showing up late in the day without some damn good contributions. A damn good contribution isn't a huge post with a vote at the end, like RyuSuzaku in The game™, who rolled scum.

Ah I see. And your active scumspect is Ray? My lab is about to start so I can't really glance through all the lurkers right now but personally I would rather lynch someone more scummy and active, so many lurkers that its such a crap shoot on hitting a right one.


D1 lynches are often a crapshoot.
If you think we shouldn't lynch a lurker, then bring ahead a better option.
Mislynching lurkers doesn't hurt town outside of numbers and actually reduces the pool of insecurities, mislynching actives does pretty much always hurt town.
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