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On April 30 2013 13:38 getmoript wrote: @VE what do you think of Shiao's blue hints?
Can you point these out? I see one really big hint, but it's just as possible that he's scum that doesn't know what to claim. I don't want to point it out unless it's the same thing, because his claim could prove that he's scum. Or at least heavily implicate it.
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On April 30 2013 10:25 ShiaoPi wrote: There is another possibility of CC being a sane cop and VE being the liar out of the three. They frame syl n2 you get your friggin redcheck and I am still the townie from my role PM
On April 30 2013 10:46 ShiaoPi wrote: also nobody thinks of sane cc and framed syl as possibillity???
On April 30 2013 10:56 ShiaoPi wrote: I am guessing around since I am town and cant get around the notion that CC being insane implicates me. you being miller should be considered too. I am saying that either the described scenario happened or that CC is lying Notice how he wholly ignores the possibility that he's a miller.
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What do you make of them Sharrant?
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On April 30 2013 13:58 getmoript wrote: What do you make of them Sharrant?
That was exactly what I was hoping you wouldn't post. I wanted him to claim before it was revealed that he had already indirectly mentioned that he couldn't be a VT, just in case he would claim VT. It would've made me the lynch a slam dunk.
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I already posted in the Mason QT but I might as well point it out here. What blue role do you think that he could actually claim that we would actually believe? Vet? Not provable. Medic? Not provable. Jailer? Would've claimed/crumbed already imo. Cop? lulz. Mason? lulz. JOAT? Not likely. No reason to not claim with the cops as 1 of them has to be lying. Vigilante? No claim/crumb; no mention of grush; no explanation for not firing at 1 of a number of people. No called hit incoming. Named VT? lulz. VT/Miller? Hellz no.
I see no role that he could claim that doesn't make me want to lynch him faster. Any claim at all makes him an super autolynch. Like regardless of the check. Honestly, I just want to move on to the next lynch.
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I don't see those as blue crumbs at all. I don't even know what you're referring to.
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On April 30 2013 14:15 getmoript wrote: I already posted in the Mason QT but I might as well point it out here. What blue role do you think that he could actually claim that we would actually believe? Vet? Not provable. Medic? Not provable. Jailer? Would've claimed/crumbed already imo. Cop? lulz. Mason? lulz. JOAT? Not likely. No reason to not claim with the cops as 1 of them has to be lying. Vigilante? No claim/crumb; no mention of grush; no explanation for not firing at 1 of a number of people. No called hit incoming. Named VT? lulz. VT/Miller? Hellz no.
I see no role that he could claim that doesn't make me want to lynch him faster. Any claim at all makes him an super autolynch. Like regardless of the check. Honestly, I just want to move on to the next lynch.
I think that's because he's already in auto lynch territory.
I think the flavour of this setup can lead to some rather subtle bread crumbs, at least if one wants to keep them secret until they want to claim. I'm interested to hear his claim, but I honestly don't know how I would feel about any claim he could possibly make, and I don't think it's wise to speculate just yet. I'd rather wait and hear what he has to say, any speculation from other people is likely to either A) reveal their roles (while not super important since we have 3 claimed cops) B) give him possible ideas for how to escape the noose if he is scum.
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On April 30 2013 14:24 VisceraEyes wrote: I don't see those as blue crumbs at all. I don't even know what you're referring to.
If he were VT then there would always be the option that he could be a non-self aware miller. This never occurs to him despite the situation arising earlier, thus it is a situation he is not concerned about because he cannot be a non-self aware miller because he has a role.
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On April 30 2013 14:24 VisceraEyes wrote: I don't see those as blue crumbs at all. I don't even know what you're referring to. Really? You don't consider the fact that he doesn't consider the option that he could be a miller a possibility a blue tell?
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Right, but like Sharrant says it's just as likely that he's scum and that's why that possibility didn't occur to him.
But that's something. That's not nothing.
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On April 30 2013 14:27 getmoript wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 14:24 VisceraEyes wrote: I don't see those as blue crumbs at all. I don't even know what you're referring to. Really? You don't consider the fact that he doesn't consider the option that he could be a miller a possibility a blue tell?
It's not such that it's a blue tell, it's that it's a tell that he has a role. Either red or blue, but he is not concerned with a scenario that can only apply to VTs.
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Hey give me the skinny on the mason shit - who's claimed, who's been involved...I haven't been reading as closely as I should be and that stuff needs to not be forgotten.
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Shiao is scum, it's okay.
It's finding the last two mafia that will be a challenge.
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My point is that he's making a soft blue claim when I can't see any blue role that he could actually have that he wouldn't have done/said something about yet. So yah, it really is more a non-green tell. But since we can exclude blue...
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Blazinghand
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Night 3 ends in 1 hour, 30 minutes.
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TheRavensName masoned Palmar N1 then me N2.
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Alright, guys, I'm going to bed
Looks like everyone's arriving at a not-stupid conclusion about this information.
See you tomorrow.
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Is that it? I seem to recall something about a second claim, was that just your being masoned with him?
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I really wish I could have used my check on Yamato tonight. I really regret claiming.
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I don't think we can specifically exclude blue, to be honest. I do think it's very likely he is red, but there's roles I could see him being. At any rate, we'll see.
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