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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 30 2013 02:34 GMT
#3481
see VE, now you see why I made that big stink about CC claiming so quickly after Palmar. but we'll see. everything will be resolved.

Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 30 2013 02:36 GMT
#3482
No I was all about that...I was more concerned with your LACK of big stink about me claiming...though I attributed it at the time to you missing it due to a hand being on your face.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
April 30 2013 02:41 GMT
#3483
I feel much more confident in you being town now, VE.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 30 2013 02:43 GMT
#3484
Thanks Sharrant - I'm much more confident in me not having lost my shit, so we're both coming out ahead today.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
April 30 2013 02:54 GMT
#3485
Anyone still have problems with Ace's plan? Speak now. I'd also like to hear all of the detectives agree to the checks.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 30 2013 02:55 GMT
#3486
On April 30 2013 11:54 Sharrant wrote:
Anyone still have problems with Ace's plan? Speak now. I'd also like to hear all of the detectives agree to the checks.

Publically saying what your going to do makes it so much easier for them to be fucked with....
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 30 2013 02:56 GMT
#3487
I will agree to follow Ace's plan.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
April 30 2013 02:58 GMT
#3488
On April 30 2013 11:55 TheRavensName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 11:54 Sharrant wrote:
Anyone still have problems with Ace's plan? Speak now. I'd also like to hear all of the detectives agree to the checks.

Publically saying what your going to do makes it so much easier for them to be fucked with....


Please point out to me the problem you have with the plan, instead of saying "the plan may have a problem". That's why we're discussing it.
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
April 30 2013 03:15 GMT
#3489
Hey, VE, are you here still?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
April 30 2013 03:17 GMT
#3490
I feel a lot better about the 3 check plan but question I'm probably missing. If one is a fake (say palmar for ease of typing) and palmar is gf doesn't that ruin the plan since palmar would show up town/same while he could easily forge checks to whatever parity seems balanced to him?

Not saying it's likely but it does seem like a flaw we overlooked.
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
April 30 2013 03:25 GMT
#3491
On April 30 2013 12:17 Stutters695 wrote:
I feel a lot better about the 3 check plan but question I'm probably missing. If one is a fake (say palmar for ease of typing) and palmar is gf doesn't that ruin the plan since palmar would show up town/same while he could easily forge checks to whatever parity seems balanced to him?

Not saying it's likely but it does seem like a flaw we overlooked.


I think this is mostly covered by a couple things:

1. At least for me, Palmar is town unless he's third party, I don't consider there being a great chance of him being mafia.

2. If his checks are wrong, he'll get lynched for it when he says a townie is scum, or he'll run out of people to logically be suspicious of, either via too many green checks being handed out, or his choice of checks will be rather suspicious.

3. He's not a player who I think is a viable choice for scum to try and make it to end game with, so if he's the god father he'll most likely end up getting lynched. Given that it seems likely that Shiao is another mafia due to checks (subject to change obviously) there would only be Palmar and one other scum trying to get to end game, and I think it would end up revealing both of them.

Those are my reasons at any rate.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 30 2013 03:51 GMT
#3492
On April 30 2013 11:58 Sharrant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 11:55 TheRavensName wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:54 Sharrant wrote:
Anyone still have problems with Ace's plan? Speak now. I'd also like to hear all of the detectives agree to the checks.

Publically saying what your going to do makes it so much easier for them to be fucked with....


Please point out to me the problem you have with the plan, instead of saying "the plan may have a problem". That's why we're discussing it.

Fine. If you say You you and you check him. All the Mafia has to do is either have a GF or something as one of the cops, or a JOAT for the check, and you fuck with one of the checks, kill the guy not checking the one your fucking with, have the fake (If there is one) reveal what he flipped becase well.. we established he was checking the guy that flipped by this association. We now hav the guy who we don't have check clearance on to look guilty. I would still feel pretty good about jailing Palmar to see if another SK hit happens so we can find out if there is a SP, or if Palmar was a SK that got role blocked night 1.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
April 30 2013 03:54 GMT
#3493
Palmar was just an example, same could apply to VE or CC. I just had palmar's name in my phone so it was easy to Swype

VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 30 2013 03:54 GMT
#3494
We'll find out soon enough I imagine. I just said I was checking him, are you saying your read of him is that you don't care what I check him as? Cool I guess.

I'm more interested in your thoughts on ShiaoPi.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 30 2013 04:04 GMT
#3495
On April 30 2013 11:58 Sharrant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 11:55 TheRavensName wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:54 Sharrant wrote:
Anyone still have problems with Ace's plan? Speak now. I'd also like to hear all of the detectives agree to the checks.

Publically saying what your going to do makes it so much easier for them to be fucked with....


Please point out to me the problem you have with the plan, instead of saying "the plan may have a problem". That's why we're discussing it.

Fine. If you say You you and you check him. All the Mafia has to do is either have a GF or something as one of the cops, or a JOAT for the check, and you fuck with one of the checks, kill the guy not checking the one your fucking with, have the fake (If there is one) reveal what he flipped becase well.. we established he was checking the guy that flipped by this association. We now hav the guy who we don't have check clearance on to look guilty. I would still feel pretty good about jailing Palmar to see if another SK hit happens so we can find out if there is a SP, or if Palmar was a SK that got role blocked night 1. I guess we can find out if thats true or not tomorrow if the jailer wants the check cycle to go through.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 30 2013 04:06 GMT
#3496
Wait. Thats not what I meant to post! GAAAAHHH.

Well, fuck it. I think palmar should be roleblocked, either tonight if Jailer doubts his cop claim, or tomorrow if he wants to check to go through. Shia its hard to comment on because hes got nothing to really comment on, so I would say scum is a decent bet, sort of like Stutters and Maybe Kush or Yamato.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
April 30 2013 04:10 GMT
#3497
On April 30 2013 12:51 TheRavensName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 11:58 Sharrant wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:55 TheRavensName wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:54 Sharrant wrote:
Anyone still have problems with Ace's plan? Speak now. I'd also like to hear all of the detectives agree to the checks.

Publically saying what your going to do makes it so much easier for them to be fucked with....


Please point out to me the problem you have with the plan, instead of saying "the plan may have a problem". That's why we're discussing it.

Fine. If you say You you and you check him. All the Mafia has to do is either have a GF or something as one of the cops, or a JOAT for the check, and you fuck with one of the checks, kill the guy not checking the one your fucking with, have the fake (If there is one) reveal what he flipped becase well.. we established he was checking the guy that flipped by this association. We now hav the guy who we don't have check clearance on to look guilty. I would still feel pretty good about jailing Palmar to see if another SK hit happens so we can find out if there is a SP, or if Palmar was a SK that got role blocked night 1.



A Jack would have had to withhold his action at least once, and must have not framed anyone one night one or night two. I believe a framer is relatively unlikely since we have already flipped a vigi and a framer, and there are several possible scum roles.

As for a God father, I've stated why CC is likely to be town, and that I'm coming around more to the idea of VE being town, and why Palmar that is a Godfather does not make sense, and if he's third party that will show up.

None of those 3 should be RB'ed or jailed by anyone that is town. Doctors should be on them, jailors jail important town targets that are not part of that circle.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 30 2013 04:17 GMT
#3498
Sharrant please to ShiaoPi?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 30 2013 04:38 GMT
#3499
@VE what do you think of Shiao's blue hints?
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
April 30 2013 04:40 GMT
#3500
On April 30 2013 13:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Sharrant please to ShiaoPi?


I think he's gotta be our lynch for tomorrow (unless there's something else you're asking). I'm not motivated enough right now to draw up a whole case, but his response to "you hammered a townie you never said anything about" had no trace of curiousity.

He's got a red check on him (after sanities), he didn't want to lynch Clarity, and instead wanted to lynch you (who I'm now leaning town on). So far I've only seen him go after townies (with a possible exception of yourself).

I don't want to make pre-flip assosciations, but some people look very bad if he's scum, and some worse looking people look much, much better.

If you want more I'll see what I can do when I'm feeling like hunting through filters again.

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