I'm starting to wonder that this may be some kind of a ridiculous shit setup designed to "make people not trust in blues", which is basically an awful idea and anyone hosting that kind of setup should be shot.

ObviousOne

United States3704 Posts

April 30 2013 10:11 GMT

#3545

Yikes. Please slow down with the voting so we can talk things out that are unrelated to voting ShiaoPi. Also don't hammer at 3am again that made the night phase feel really wonky.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

April 30 2013 10:13 GMT

#3546

WaveofShadow - claims miller
Bill Murray - no claim, too little activity lately, but lookd town early
Stutters695 - doesn't do anything
Kushm4sta - hasn't done shit lately
getmoript - still looks awful, but cheated and didn't get modkilled so lynching him is pointless. if he's scum the game is invalid anyway. hasn't done jack shit.
ObviousOne - guilty check (palmar) same as shiaopi check (VE). claims VT (and thus possibly miller)
TheRavensName - mason, mason'd me then someone else
GiygaS - giggles, mostly useless
Ace - looks somewhat town, been trying to figure shit out
Artanis[Xp] - replacement, no idea, maybe town
Sharrant - sometimes looks towny, mostly inactive.
Yamato77 - I still think maybe town, playing very strangely from his town game, but whatever.
ShiaoPi - inno check from a flipped cop who is probably insane, so basically a guilty check.
Palmar - claims cop, guilty checks on BC and ObviousOne
Hopeless1der - looked town early
BloodyCobbler - guilty check from Palmar
VisceraEyes - claims paranoid cop. OO and shiaopi are same alignment.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

April 30 2013 10:15 GMT

#3547

Also, it is strictly the wrong play to not lynch a guilty by a flipped cop, even if there is a chance he's miller. Assuming the setup is awful is stupid.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

April 30 2013 10:15 GMT

#3548

which is why I'm voting for shiaopi

ObviousOne

United States3704 Posts

April 30 2013 10:16 GMT

#3549

VE checked Syl and got same as me (parity not paranoid)

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

April 30 2013 10:18 GMT

#3550

oh right sorry

so that means VE has you inno, I have you guilty.

guess I'm paranoid (or insane). Or VE is lying and is scum.

dunnoh, we know what to do for now.

ObviousOne

United States3704 Posts

April 30 2013 10:20 GMT

#3551

We get the half of the town that is sucking major anus at even trying to appear town to help out or they will lose us this fucking game.

ObviousOne

United States3704 Posts

April 30 2013 10:21 GMT

#3552

I wish you had checked WoS

ObviousOne

United States3704 Posts

April 30 2013 10:36 GMT

#3553

1) WaveofShadow - miller claim, potential 3p candidate
3) Bill Murray - towniest motherfucker in the game in comparison to most of the inactives
4) DoctorHelvetica replaced by Stutters695 - mafia, probably not 3p I would imagine DrH would be excited to play 3p
5) Kushm4sta - who?
6) getmoript - disregard "modconfirm", need to take a third look
7) ObviousOne - VT
9) TheRavensName - mafia/3p/useless, pick one
11) GiygaS - mafia/useless, pick two
12) raynpelikoneet - agreed a lot early on, want to say town
13) Ace - town or 3p, not mafia
15) Drazak replaced by Artanis[Xp] - probably mafia, inactivity isn't a tell but it's always been accurate up through Boardwalk with him and he's made no effort to change that
18) Sharrant - made a lot of sense early on, probably town
19) Yamato77 - i made case ~D2 at some point saying he was probably not town given his itch for survival
20) ShiaoPi - gives no fucks, VT claim but no evidence to back it up, scum
21) Palmar - frustrated with game, town
22) Hopeless1der - fuck it, scum/3p
24) BloodyCobbler - probably town
25) VisceraEyes - town

Bold people need to be combed over. Clearly there can't be this many mafia, maybe some of them can seek a pinch of redemption, but I'm not holding my breath.

If you're not bolded, unvote for now, I want to see where all of these votes/cases land before we hammer today so I can decide if it's worth even trying to win at this point.

ObviousOne

United States3704 Posts

April 30 2013 10:38 GMT

#3554

THE BEATINGS WILL COMMENCE UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES

ObviousOne

United States3704 Posts

April 30 2013 10:51 GMT

#3555

Wisdom of the Crowds rule sounds really spectacular right now.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12970 Posts

April 30 2013 10:55 GMT

#3556

Hi.
Won't vote yet, there's no need to make the day as short as last time. Night actions were completely unsurprising, scum knew Shiaopi was dead anyway. VE's roleblock was also expected. Shame we don't have confirmation about Palmar's sanity though, I was looking forward to removing the cobbler from the premises. I'll await the third check from Palmar before I start on that to see if we can figure out if he's insane or paranoid. No rush in it anyway, and with a bit of luck shiao is the mafia RB. I'll look into GrapeS and Kush today.

@OO At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I'm inactive because it's a big game and I replaced in 72 pages in. In none of my games have I been a replacement. The heuristic doesn't fly here. Any other similarities to my scum games that you find compared to my town games or is that it?

ObviousOne

United States3704 Posts

April 30 2013 10:55 GMT

#3557

I am mad if you can't tell. I am out for blood. Help me spill red blood.

ObviousOne

United States3704 Posts

April 30 2013 11:11 GMT

#3558

Ranked in order I want them dead as of right this moment:

1. Not reading ShiaoPi again, firmly scum in my mind .
2. Stutters is literally AFK but was all over Shiao's business regarding the Oats hammer.
3. Yamato survival focused until he resigned after the Sylencia lynch.
4. GiygaS either bussing his entire team or town.
5. Artanis pending near-future contributions.
6. Kush isn't caught up with the game last check-in.
7. Hopeless filter makes some sense, not the scummiest of the bunch.

If I knew whether or not Shiao was assumed by scum to be a foregone conclusion based solely on D1/2 I could make a lot more sense of this.

ObviousOne

United States3704 Posts

April 30 2013 11:22 GMT

#3559

Looks like I left TRN out of the ordered list; consider yourself on notice but you are the least of my worries right now with the rest of this madness.