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On March 31 2013 21:15 InsertSmurfHere wrote: I'll talk about this postgame, but this was the worst game ever to try to smurf in. Aw. Not even an attempt to keep trying
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Come on Keir, talk to me, im bored.
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On April 01 2013 00:14 Oatsmaster wrote: Come on Keir, talk to me, im bored.
You first.
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On March 31 2013 16:56 Oatsmaster wrote: Ah yes.
My point is that Acro sacrificed himself to kill 2 townies and save 1 scum and 1 possible scum. His role said he could affect 1 lynch right? But that was 2 lynches.
Also, what do you and keir think about his reaction/posting after the kill?
Also Marv could have some kind of GF role.
Again thats why I suggested the order.
By process of elimination ok, Sinani is the least scummy out of the 3 Marv is the least likely I just think that prp is town.
So thats why I suggested the order.
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On March 31 2013 16:56 Oatsmaster wrote: My point is that Acro sacrificed himself to kill 2 townies and save 1 scum and 1 possible scum. His role said he could affect 1 lynch right? But that was 2 lynches.
He obviously effected both lynches. Not sure where you're going with this. And how did he "sacrifice" himself, exactly? His role didn't say anything about sacrificing himself, but obviously he knew that if he used his power it would be considered a scum-claim. In that sense, yes he did sacrifice himself.
On March 31 2013 16:56 Oatsmaster wrote: Also, what do you and keir think about his reaction/posting after the kill? 'His', who?
On March 31 2013 16:56 Oatsmaster wrote: Also Marv could have some kind of GF role. OO's role said that he would be given information about the setup. We don't have any idea what information that is, but I find it hard to believe that he was told that marv was town when marv is actually GF. Sense, it makes none.
On March 31 2013 16:56 Oatsmaster wrote: Again thats why I suggested the order.
By process of elimination ok, Sinani is the least scummy out of the 3 Marv is the least likely I just think that prp is town.
So thats why I suggested the order.
So you think they are all town, and it's really just a random order?
Well, okay. But the rest of the game is (probably) in LYLO. There are no mislynches to give. Give me your best reasoning on which of them is scum.
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Rayn, im talking about fucking rayn, get your head in the game.
His role said something about he should only use his role once or he is basically dead. It might be really dead.
Also READ THE BIT WHERE I SAY WHY RAYN's CLAIM IS FAKE AND TELL ME IF YOU BELIEVE WHAT HE SAYS.
Keir wtf man.
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How is it fake, though?
Someone had to shoot Acro. No one else is claiming the shot.
Unless you mean that scum rayn shot scum Acro. Which is possible, but I don't think its very likely for most people. I'm not sure if rayn has the balls for it, though. Maybe he does.
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Anyways, I know what you're getting at. That there was some hidden mechanic that killed Acro, and rayn just claimed it and is riding the town cred from the kill.
But I highly doubt that. Nothing about Acro's role suggested that he would die for using his powers, and I've never seen anything in any game ever that would make someone randomly explode like that aside from a vig kill. Pretty damn likely that rayn is a vig. Town or scum is less certain, but town is the higher probability choice.
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On March 31 2013 11:50 Hapahauli wrote: Anyway Rayn, I'm still curious about a lot of things behind that vigi mechanic.
Particularly 1) Why didn't you shoot Acro before the lynch deadline? 2) Why didn't you shoot Smurf at any point?
I'm almost foaming at the mouth to hear the answer to these questions.
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On March 31 2013 15:34 Oatsmaster wrote:Acro is dead, right. Hmm. Something to think about is why Acro/scumteam chose OO and dandel ion instead of Kier or Cora or marv or hapa, who I would definetely consider first before those two. Rayn, explain your role fully please. Also possibly when Acro switched the 2 lynches, that meant that he instantly died. Which means Rayn is bullshitting and is scum. Honestly the weird stuff he posted after he 'killed' Acro is just really weird from a town point of view. He wasnt happy he killed scum, he was happy he shot? And kept asking for people to counterclaim him. That just does not come from a townie. SnB didnt do it. List of posts following the Acro shot [spoiler] Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 10:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 31 2013 10:19 Hapahauli wrote: Soooo, you're not a mason-cop? I am. I can also kill ppl. Cora / Keir 100% confirmed, as i checked them Coron n1. And yea, i killed acro <3 Come on and cc me. [spoiler] Clear emphasis on someone counterclaiming him. So fucking weird Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 10:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 31 2013 10:22 Hapahauli wrote:On March 31 2013 10:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: go on and cc... 112 BLFG 03-28-2013 06:22 PM ET (US) Okay whatever. My power is that i can check if someone is in a mason circle. Keir and Cora are legit. That makes them town. Period. Why'd you fake-claim? Because there was the anti-ton fucker.... Acro? ::D why not=? Ok. Look at his 'fake claim' timing. That was ~3 days before the shot. Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 10:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 30 2013 10:17 ObviousOne wrote: Acro is also on the campaign against me that SNB was running from - that my word choice somehow espouses a mafia mindset. The only point regarding me I felt had any value at all was that I was putting in a lot of effort and he gave me the null stamp. I have to agree with Acro on this. A lot of your reads (even your case on me from D1) is full of "might or might not be". I don't like that, because as mafia you are already giving yourself an out by saying "i might be wrong but...". What I did not like about Acro's action N1 was questioning why/what was to be gained from looking at how the D1 lynch wagon came about. Funny that he wouldn't want that to be discussed when he was 100% absolutely no-question certain that Nisani was mafia for most of D1. How better to shut down that conversation than to discredit the only person willing to put in the work to do it? I agree with Acro on this also. I think most of your N1 "plan" was based on that sinani is mafia (which town can't know). That would be a lot of discussion worth nothing (or needed to be revisited) if sinani in fact is town. This is like 2 days after his 'fakeclaim' right? Reading this I would think that Rayn had a townread on Acro. The first mention of his scumread on him is Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 23:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:EBWOP: fail formatting. On March 30 2013 22:10 Oatsmaster wrote: Rayn, get useful fast.
Response to Acro and Keir's case and my case and relationship with sinani please.
I went through Acro's filter. I could definitely see him being scum. I noticed the same thing that Keirathi bases his case on (saying we're not lynching marv -> making a case on marv). I missed it earlier because i thought i only argued with DI (and Oats?) about the "accusing marv will cause a shitfest, therefore he can't be lynched on D1" thing. Anothir thing i find out that points towards him being scum is that i notice a lot of similarities in his play that i do when i am scum. That is carefully pointing fingers all over the place. He comments on like everything that's happening on thread, but in most of the cases this doesn't seem to be leading him anywhere. I don't know how to explain it better.. And the "you can't lynch me anyways" is really really weird thing. If he is claiming a power i can't see that being a town power at all. So yes, i can definitely see Acro being scum. I do not think Acro and sinani are scum together. So high high suspicion on Rayn at the moment.
This kind of rings true to me. Why the emphasis on counterclaiming? And what is the explanation for the grack shot?
(Unless someone thinks we have two different town dayvigs). And why didn't he shoot acro before he could kill two townies?
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I meant that by using his powers on 2 lynches he dies. Although the timing is kinda weird.
Then scum rayn claims to shoot.
Damn.
I have a pretty strong townread on prp now,
So I would want to lynch sinani first.
If none of them flip scum.
We kill the mason pair then.
EZ.
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On April 01 2013 01:10 Oatsmaster wrote: I meant that by using his powers on 2 lynches he dies. Although the timing is kinda weird.
Then scum rayn claims to shoot.
Damn.
I have a pretty strong townread on prp now,
So I would want to lynch sinani first.
If none of them flip scum.
We kill the mason pair then.
EZ.
Yes, let's lynch the person least likely to flip scum so then I can go after the mason pair.
That doesn't sound scummy Oats.
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Phone posting - did rayn claim Grack shot too? I forget and I'm trying to mull things over
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Maybe we can clear this up:
@Kurumi:
On March 31 2013 07:22 Kurumi wrote: Obviously, you are going to use that only once, because people are pretty angry that they are getting killed and rigging them more than once would result in your inevitable death
Does this mean that Acro *could* use his power twice, but that would kill him? On first read through, I assumed you were just saying it was a 1-shot power because using it twice would be suicide, but please clarify your wording.
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On April 01 2013 01:13 marvellosity wrote: Phone posting - did rayn claim Grack shot too? I forget and I'm trying to mull things over
No one has claimed Grack shot.
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On April 01 2013 01:13 marvellosity wrote: Phone posting - did rayn claim Grack shot too? I forget and I'm trying to mull things over No. Pretty sure its still un-claimed.
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??? Cora.
If prp and sinani and rayn flip town.
Who do you want to lynch?
Obviously you 2 right?
Since there is no way to verify your claim.
I cba to count if we can afford so many mislynches but meh.
Currently my list me Hapa marv
Keir Cora SnB Rayn?
Prp Sinani
[b] Smurf
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We've told you like 10 times that we (probably) have zero mislynched to give. We have to get every lynch right from here on out.
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I guess it was a blue snipe from mafia like Smurf said then. From a setup perspective, it seems like rayn is the town Kp? Just need him to come back and answer the outstanding questions I guess.
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Assuming 4 scum. Lets say we can mislynch 4. Cause this isnt exactly a mini and such.
Im pretty sure its not Lylo, Mylo. Considering that Acro's death gives us another mislynch.
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