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On March 26 2013 06:47 Rainbows wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 04:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:@ Rainbows:On March 26 2013 04:07 Rainbows wrote:
TRN seems like an iffy lynch for today. I think there is scum between virtu and NW if not both. I think the cases on raven are biased... Saying he is scum because he lynched frogon is stupid, and especially coming from NW considering he could have prevented the lynch.
Guy lets frogon get lynched.
Guy blames other guy for lynching frorgon.
Seems, you know, legit. What's biased about my case on Raven? @ nobodywonder:What do you think about the case on virtu? What do you think about JarJar's analysis on the night hit and his vote on you? Where do you think he is wrong and why? The fact that youve been after him most of the game. Its kind of stupid tbh. I think raven is the townier than a bunch of ppl here but i think your confirmation biased is clouding your judgments.
Of course i have been after him, because he is lying about stuff and i have proven it! Why is everyone ignoring that? He's also trying to stall the discussion, in the beginning of the game, and on N1. He is mafia and i don't understand why everyone just ignores that.
Look at his defence. He doesn't even defend himself against my accusation, because he can't do it. Because i'm right! He's just whining about me and JarJar going after him from the beginning. Wtf? Ofc i will go after obv-scum like this from the beginning. I don't even know what the instant majority whine is about because i don't understand a single bit of that part.
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And why the hell would i make multiple cases per day? I focus on one mafia at the time because i can't possibly lynch more than one of them per day. I have been also looking onto other people, there is just no point in saying everything you think in thread. That way mafia can't manipulate you to make decisions they want you to make. I have other people in mind who could be scum, but what's the point of screaming about them when we can only lynch one player/day?
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@ virtu:
On March 23 2013 04:40 virtu wrote:
Out playing snooker, back in few hours, will post a bit before bed.
On March 25 2013 20:51 virtu wrote:
I work in IT, got called in and I lost the entire of yesterday to a network crash which involved replacing main switches, had to make a temporary network out of old switches until the new ones arrived etc. I'm terribly tired today but I obviously have a lot of catching up and making up to do, especially since I also learned that whilst I've lurked and read a lot of Mafia on TL, I'm not terribly good at it myself.
Will be reading for a while, I'm also at work for the next 5 hours but I'll try and get some thoughts down, then when I get home I should have time to formulate some thoughts into posts before I fall into an abyss of sleep.
Also - I was roleblocked last night.
At least my patience is soon gone. You have given now two promises to post your thoughts. I can understand if something urgent comes up and i i'm willing to buy your first explanation, but it's been 10 hours since you said you would be posting in 5 hours...
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So on D1 i was by your own words "changing targets every five seconds" and now i am tunneling you?
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JarJar: There is actually something you are not taking into account. I just read my own and Rainbows filter. Neither of us really do call Fishgle out before N1 end (when it's impossible to change night actions). Nobody else wasn't really calling Fishgle out. There actually is a possibility that two of those guys you mentioned are mafia, because Fishgle didn't really have any opinions other than me & Rainbows. I don't still close the possibility of NW being mafia, but your case to be honest isn't a really good reasoning because it's based more on night hit WIFOM than actual analysis on why NW particularly is mafia.
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Please i would like people to stop bringing meta to the arguments. Especially since noone of us has played more than two games here. The newbie games are here for learning so it's more than likely that players meta is going to change from their last game when they learn from their mistakes. It's not really alignment indicative if someone plays differently from last game.
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On March 26 2013 22:43 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 22:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
JarJar: There is actually something you are not taking into account. I just read my own and Rainbows filter. Neither of us really do call Fishgle out before N1 end (when it's impossible to change night actions). Nobody else wasn't really calling Fishgle out. There actually is a possibility that two of those guys you mentioned are mafia, because Fishgle didn't really have any opinions other than me & Rainbows. I don't still close the possibility of NW being mafia, but your case to be honest isn't a really good reasoning because it's based more on night hit WIFOM than actual analysis on why NW particularly is mafia. I'll reread but I definately felt like people were banging on the fishgle is bad drum even before the night phase.
That's what i felt like too, but nobody really said so, so people who are not reading observantly may have missed it.
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On March 26 2013 23:30 Krafla wrote:
Current votes at the moment if I can count.
virtu 1 - Krafla
NW 3 - Rainbows, JarJar, TRN
TRN 2 - ray, nw
So we're still waiting on a vote from virtu?
Your vote is useless at the moment. We can switch to virtu if he fails to put something decent up when he posts. At this point there is no reason to have your vote on him.
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On March 27 2013 00:55 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 00:34 Rainbows wrote:On March 27 2013 00:32 JarJarDrinks wrote:On March 27 2013 00:06 Rainbows wrote:On March 27 2013 00:01 Krafla wrote:On March 26 2013 23:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 26 2013 23:30 Krafla wrote:
Current votes at the moment if I can count.
virtu 1 - Krafla
NW 3 - Rainbows, JarJar, TRN
TRN 2 - ray, nw
So we're still waiting on a vote from virtu? Your vote is useless at the moment. We can switch to virtu if he fails to put something decent up when he posts. At this point there is no reason to have your vote on him. You're right. My vote is useless at the moment, especially now that JarJar has come in and thrown his vote down on virtu, splitting the votes perfectly evenly, looks like we're heading to another D1 situation and that the mafia has us over a barrel. Right then, I'm going to switch my vote ##Vote: TheRavensNameI've looked at ray's arguments against TRN and I've looked at Rainbow's arguments against NW and I think ray's arguments are the best. I don't like that Rainbows is defending TRN so much, let him defend himself and I don't like the fact that Rainbows stated that virtu was his No 1 scum read on N1, yet he's voting for NW. Why are you voting for NW over Virtu Rainbows. What has changed your mind. We know how you feel on TRN, how do you choose between the other two? Are you daft? I'm not going to vote for virtu when he hasn't responded to my stuff... that's just unreasonable. I need him to respond to my cases on him if anything. NW is the one voting for TRN to get his ass out of the water and appearing in the thread while not doing a whole lot. Wait WHAT? You're not gonna vote for virtu because he hasn't responded to you? Well I guess if he's scum he should just not respond to you then huh? More importantly, what are you waiting for him to say exactly? Are you somehow not sure if he's scum anymore? He hasn't even shown up and attempted to do anything. I'm giving him TIME. Time for what though? To explain himself better? Do these posts really seem like they're from someone that is gonna be able to be talked out of thinking Virtu is scum: Show nested quote +On March 23 2013 02:07 Rainbows wrote:
If nobody see's how scummy that post was by Virtu, you're blind.
Show nested quote +On March 23 2013 22:18 Rainbows wrote:
Virtu best lynch USA
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- virtu posts paragraphs that do nothing to further towns agenda.
- virtu doesn't hunt scum all game, and refuses to.
- virtu openly sheeps with zero original thinking, but we should be suspect of lurkers.
virtu best lynch right now, gonna be flippin' scum all over this bitch. I mean, yesterday we vote virtu to win the game. Today you're not gonna vote for him because it's unreasonable to do so without first giving him time to respond?
Look JarJar. The thing is that there is no benefit of voting virtu now. If one of the other candidates is mafia and virtu is town the votes tell us much more about everyone. Because mafia needs to do something about where virtu is eventually gonna put his vote. If we vote for virtu now we ignore this information source.
We can vote for virtu later if he fails to show up or does not do townie stuff when he appears.
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On March 27 2013 04:24 Krafla wrote:Show nested quote +Wait... my defense as town is to fake a blue claim? You better lynch me now then, I am not that stupid. Your either the cop and are trying to bait me into fake claiming so you can call me on it sense out of 9 people there is no way I can be the cop, or your trying to find out if I am cop, lynch someone else and then make me useless the rest of the game.
Ooh I'm glad you said this! So you're definitely not a cop then. Excellent. Please explain your first post; Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 12:16 TheRavensName wrote:
Hello guys... I'm going to use my opening post to say One thing and one thing only:
I haven't read any of the books after Chamber of Secrets or Watched a movie sense Goblet of fire. Am I going to have to wikipedia Dumbledores Army to get most the flavor text? I believe this is a scum slip right from the start. You throw down a fake blue breadcrumb, that you're a 1shot watcher, to give you something to come back to later in the game. But hang on a minute, this game doesn't have any 1-shot roles. Whoops, guess I can't carry on this charade, lets hope no one spots it.
Okay, wtf is this?
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Okay, i'm going out for some time. I'm not sure if i can get back before the deadline. I will stick with my vote on Raven. I don't think they are both scum with NW, i just feel like Raven is more likely to be mafia than NW.
I would be okay with lynching virtu as well. He's fucking useless.
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I think Krafla's weird rant about Raven points more to him being town than mafia. I still think JarJar and Rainbows are town.
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On March 27 2013 06:52 TheRavensName wrote:
I don't understand about nything else... how does that make me a one shot watcher as opposed to an actual watcher?
It's stupid as hell but i don't see him doing that if he was mafia. Unless he is trying some incredible stunt noone will be able to see..
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On March 27 2013 06:58 TheRavensName wrote:
Well before you go Ray, can I get an explination as to why you think I'm scummier then NW/ I haven't actually seen a comparison between the two yet or much of a comment on NW at all from you. People you think are town think I'm town, but no one has come out as saying NW is town... You even asked him a question he has yet to answer.
You straight out lied about me questioning Frorgon. You could have done a lot more, i even told you that "the best way to defend yourself is to find us scum". You have not been interested in finding scum in the latter part of D1 and on D2. Whenever you question other people it's because someone has said something about you. It's fucking scummy. NW at least seems to be trying sometimes.
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On March 27 2013 08:18 nobodywonder wrote:
^ That is if Virtu is going to modkilled at this pt.
That guy should really post soon. So lemme just make sure.
Mods, will Virtu be mod-killed if he doesn't post D2?
Anyways, I say no nail because you are just twisting my words and reasons. So you lynch me cuz I'm a lurker. Nope, I've been active and trying to find scum.
I have to say screw you. You have not been "active and finding scum". If raven is lynched and flips town who is mafia?
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And discussing virtu is not going to get us anywhere. Raven, convince me, i got back before the deadline.
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No, just saying "change your vote, plz" does not convince me. GIVE SOME REASONS OK?
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On March 27 2013 09:10 Rainbows wrote:
BECAUSE NOBODYWONDER IS FUCKING SCUM YOU IDIOT!!!!!
Raven is displaying way more townie qualities than this guy. Raven is emotional, but in townie way imo. He actually does things and fights cases against him. Raven looks like he gives a shit about this game. You said it yourself -- nobodywonder hasnt done fuck all but jerk it to geript and sheep a case on raven.
Like holy hell if you think raven is scummier than this guy you're blind. Id rather lynch scum today, k?
Seriously. Fuck you.
Emotional, maybe yes.
THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HIM LYING! OR NOT DOING SHIT?
rly, are you his scumbuddy?
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Can we get a vote tally plz?
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why would you lie as town?
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