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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
Now, as we know, scum aren't likely to put their scumbuddy up for lynch so easily, so the supposition is that geript and zarepath are scumbuddies, and geript didn't want to put his buddy up for lynch! What do you say to THAT?! | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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Wade Fell
United States501 Posts
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sciberbia
United States1359 Posts
On March 16 2013 16:22 Wade Fell wrote: geript is there a particular reason you haven't voted for zarepath since you already rnged him? it seems to me that if you realy wanted to rng your lynch, you'd use the lynch you've already rnged. Why the cold feet? On March 16 2013 16:24 geript wrote: Didn't Layabout say that I couldn't use that rng though? Now I have to use my more complex one. The first possibly important thing I noticed in the thread. The phrasing of the first sentence as a question instead of a statement seems a bit odd to me. It's like he's saying "Would you find this explanation acceptable?" rather than "This is the explanation." Seems unnecessarily passive and ingratiating. On March 16 2013 16:48 geript wrote: Well if that's how this game is going to start, then I think I'd rather just go to bed as well. This rubs me a bit the wrong way. Seems like a crummy reason to go to bed. People accuse you of being mafia so you go to bed? What? Also, seems like he's almost providing an 'excuse' to leave the thread. Overall, leaning scum on geript. I don't think it is especially likely that zarepath and geript are both scum. If zarepath and geript actually were scumbuddies, I think there is an excellent chance that geript would have either gone through with the RNG vote (with the knowledge that it is very unlikely to lead to a lynch and with the devious hope that town would later get confused by WIFOM), or just drop the RNG thing all-together. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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goodkarma
United States1067 Posts
On March 16 2013 17:06 VisceraEyes wrote: Tenets of the Super Awesome Scumhunting Team
Here at the Super Awesome Scumhunting Team, we're out to find and destroy Mafia. We have a variety of programs designed to help you, the aspiring scumhunter, attain your goals of a safe and secure future for the town. Not a member of the SAST? It's easy! Just apply here in the thread using the command "##Apply: SAST"! Anyhow, going to bed. Will be back tomorrow. I humbly request we focus on scumhunting. Thank you and good night. | ||
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sciberbia
United States1359 Posts
Nah I have other things on my mind atm. Since you seem to be willing to talk about things relevant to the game, what do you make of this quote: On March 16 2013 16:24 Wade Fell wrote: Is this your first mafia game or are you really a smurf of someone i know trying to pull this garbage This stuck out to me. Seems like a bit of a pointless question. Also, I think it was pretty clear from Peashooter's first post that he has played mafia before, and probably on this forum. Not sure that there's anything to read into this though. I think you have some prior experience with this Wade Fell character so I'm interested in your opinion of him thus far. He was surprisingly quick to make some bold posts and draw attention to himself. Do you make anything of it? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
Do you think that knowing what the names of the roles MIGHT mean is going to help us find scum? | ||
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sciberbia
United States1359 Posts
On March 16 2013 17:47 VisceraEyes wrote: Honestly it just looks like BH using too many words to say "I don't like this" as he's wont to do. Frankly I didn't like it either, and I look forward to hearing what Peashooter has to say about that post. Do you think that knowing what the names of the roles MIGHT mean is going to help us find scum? So you think BH is more likely to be town for his aggression towards Peashooter? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On March 16 2013 17:49 sciberbia wrote: So you think BH is more likely to be town for his aggression towards Peashooter? The way you phrased this is odd...as if you're trying to get me to say that I'll think people are town if they're aggressive toward Peashooter specifically. Anyway, he hasn't really given any reasoning other than "this is garbage" so I'm not taking it as any kind of tell right now. He hasn't even said that he thinks Peashooter is scum O.O | ||
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sciberbia
United States1359 Posts
On March 16 2013 17:54 VisceraEyes wrote: The way you phrased this is odd...as if you're trying to get me to say that I'll think people are town if they're aggressive toward Peashooter specifically. Anyway, he hasn't really given any reasoning other than "this is garbage" so I'm not taking it as any kind of tell right now. He hasn't even said that he thinks Peashooter is scum O.O I meant it as 'is this early aggression towards Peashooter something you would expect from a town BH as opposed to a mafia BH?'. To which I suppose the answer is no because you seem completely null on him. But for the record he has made it pretty clear that he thinks Peashooter is scum. Personally, I have no problem with Peashooter. Although unproductive, It's obviously tempting to speculate about such a mysterious setup. And I don't fault people for lack of scumhunting in their first couple posts. The game just started and not everyone is super-tryhard. So I don't find that post scummy just as I don't find talk about tarot cards or your SAST thing scummy. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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sciberbia
United States1359 Posts
On March 16 2013 18:26 VisceraEyes wrote: Interesting. Out of everyone who has posted, you are by far the most verbose. I expect you will be equally verbose when describing things you DO find scummy. ok? Your expectation has been noted. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
On March 16 2013 16:46 Coagulation wrote: im town thank god In the last game I played, literally every single person who claimed town in their opening post was scum. On March 16 2013 16:46 VisceraEyes wrote: Hi I'm town yadda yadda. BH you wanna try and get a read on me before I go to bed? VE did say in the analysis that he always claims town no matter what, though. But seriously, what is the town motivation for claiming town so early? There's more scum motivation than town motivation. On March 16 2013 17:10 VisceraEyes wrote: Maybe next time sport. Tell me, what do you make of geript and his RNG shenanigans? It's said that he RNG'd before the game started and that rather than using the name he drew, he RNG'd AGAIN when the game started! How exciting is that?! Now, as we know, scum aren't likely to put their scumbuddy up for lynch so easily, so the supposition is that geript and zarepath are scumbuddies, and geript didn't want to put his buddy up for lynch! What do you say to THAT?! Yeah, I reject this notion for obvious reasons, but also for the fact that this is already an association case, isn't it? Granted, I suppose if you assume that there are scum motivations for him switching his RNG, the most obvious reason would be because his original RNG was going to hit scum. But wasn't he told he couldn't use that anyway and have it count as a real RNG? And again, you're already operating on the assumption the switch was scum-motivated. VE's super awesome team sounds dumb. I can't see how any self-respecting scum hunter would agree to unite their votes with 4 other active people no matter what. And honestly, don't the self-respecting scum hunters kind of unite with each other as they prove themselves to each other anyway? I am much more in favor of a "lead scumhunting team" coming about organically from the good scum-hunters recognizing each other as being good than VE deciding who is good and then telling them how to vote. Also, I find all role and setup speculation stupid at this point; even regarding the fact that the OP suggests the possibility of victory conditions changing throughout the game, I don't see how town is better served in finding scum through role speculation without any information with which to base it on, and I don't see why town would want to do anything other than promote a pro-town atmosphere and find scum on the first day regardless of the setup. /offtopic: flavor is awesome  | ||
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
Now that I think about it, VE's talk about tarot cards seems especially useless. Another addendum to Coagulation's instant role claim : the very first thing he did after that was apply to the SAST, which is going to look pro-town without actually being pro-town. An addendum to my problems with the SAST: I am not certain as to whether or not VE seriously thought people would like his SAST idea. And one final thought: sciberbia was quick to point out that VE's tarot cards and Peashooter's speculation aren't that scummy (but I disagree and say they are more scummy than anything else so far, btw), and VE makes a good point in response: On March 16 2013 18:26 VisceraEyes wrote: Interesting. Out of everyone who has posted, you are by far the most verbose. I expect you will be equally verbose when describing things you DO find scummy. So in the end, I currently have my eyes on Coagulation, Peashooter, VE, and sciberbia. I will take a more serious look at geript later. And with those reactions, I am now off for the afternoon to help somebody move. | ||
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
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glurio
Germany597 Posts
I'm quite busy today, i might have time to read and post again later this evening, if not i'm sorry and will post tomorrow morning again. + Show Spoiler + On March 16 2013 17:23 sciberbia wrote: I've got some stuff to say about geript The first possibly important thing I noticed in the thread. The phrasing of the first sentence as a question instead of a statement seems a bit odd to me. It's like he's saying "Would you find this explanation acceptable?" rather than "This is the explanation." Seems unnecessarily passive and ingratiating. This rubs me a bit the wrong way. Seems like a crummy reason to go to bed. People accuse you of being mafia so you go to bed? What? Also, seems like he's almost providing an 'excuse' to leave the thread. Overall, leaning scum on geript. I don't think it is especially likely that zarepath and geript are both scum. If zarepath and geript actually were scumbuddies, I think there is an excellent chance that geript would have either gone through with the RNG vote (with the knowledge that it is very unlikely to lead to a lynch and with the devious hope that town would later get confused by WIFOM), or just drop the RNG thing all-together. Well with the geript situation you have to know he was pushed hard last game, so this seems to be his typical behaviour. He probably is pretty unconfident in his play right now. Hence the backing off of his RNG (which is still and always will be a terrible idea), which does make him look scummy. I'd still suggest letting him be for a while. Or we get martyr-geript again. ThePeashooter aside from useless setup speculation, any opinions on the SAST? | ||
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