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WaveofShadow
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Arctic Daishi
United States152 Posts
On March 09 2013 06:10 Frorgon wrote: @Arctic What about Omni's case is so "great"? The claim that I have contributed the least? Because I'm pretty sure you've contributed less than me. Seems pretty easy for you to just sit back and buddy up with people without at least explaining why you like their case so much. In this post: On March 08 2013 06:29 Frorgon wrote: @OmniEulogy I'm wondering why you asked me about what I thought was suspicious behavior. I clearly explained that in my initial post about the matter. It made me a bit uneasy about whether or not you were trying to get redundant information posted to cloud up the thread. As Wave said, the amount of posts you had started to raise a red flag for me. And don't get me wrong, it's not necessarily the amount of posts you had that was bad, it was that you seemed to be drowning the thread for a while with just your thoughts and limited discussion from others. That being said, I feel better about your contributions in the past few pages since other people have shown up. You seemed rather hostile against Omni, who was very active in investigating people. Perhaps to stop his investigation? | ||
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TheRavensName
United States911 Posts
On March 09 2013 06:15 Arctic Daishi wrote: In this post: You seemed rather hostile against Omni, who was very active in investigating people. Perhaps to stop his investigation? You were asked to expand on why you like Omni's case. You didn't. You just copied Frorgon's posts and posted a single line attempting to accuse him. Why do you like Omni's case? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On March 09 2013 06:15 Arctic Daishi wrote: In this post: You seemed rather hostile against Omni, who was very active in investigating people. Perhaps to stop his investigation? Terrible. This was early on in the thread before Frorgon was even under investigation. You've just overtaken everyone as the scummiest person in this thread. No opinions, sheep vote, attempting to prove yourself useful only when under pressure. Fuck this, after re-reading Omni's 'amazing' case I see some holes in it that I'm going to expose eventually. First I'm going to see if Frorgon can dig himself out of this little hole before I do it. ##Unvote ##Vote: Arctic Daishi | ||
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OmniEulogy
Canada6600 Posts
On March 09 2013 05:54 WaveofShadow wrote: @Omni your cases so far have been solid, can you expand on your thoughts on MeatlessTaco? I agree he has been very aggressive in his posting though the only real scummy thing I've seen from him is the sheep vote onto Chew. Also what are your thoughts regarding the rest of the lurkers today? There are quite a few of them (Matriarch, Daishi, Luneth probably the worst offenders) and it's going to be very difficult to determine what to do with them once the day is over. Hmm not sure what else to say about Taco... well actually I'll go the other way, I think I've covered pretty much everything he's done that seems to go against town, but he was right when he said you have to suspect everybody in one of his first posts. On March 08 2013 08:46 MeatlessTaco wrote: I wanted to pounce on Raven, his initial exuberance 10 min before game starts and then lurks for a long time like he's getting help from his scum mentor. Since then, he hasn't done enough to move my suspicion. There is no instant lynch. My vote means who I suspect right now. I felt that this was a good post, generally people who have decent activity before a game starts and then disappear as soon as it starts deserve to be looked at more closely. At the same time going back to odd actions from him we also have things like this On March 08 2013 08:55 MeatlessTaco wrote: Everything starts somewhere. If my analysis was poor, argue that. Don't argue that I made an argument that caught on so that is bad. It's a good thing if an argument gets some traction. Let's hear Krafla's and Matriarch's reasoning behind suspecting me. I understand NobodyWonder hasn't said a lot, neither have I or you. We do what we can with very limited information. Make a case, but don't point fingers at me without a case better than "he made an argument that someone else agreed with". He didn't actually make a case... did he forget? It was a joke vote that stuck and other people attacked NW. There was no case from Taco. On March 08 2013 08:58 MeatlessTaco wrote: Isn't that kind of a high bar for day 1? Isn't that the exact job town is trying to do? On March 08 2013 14:56 MeatlessTaco wrote: No vote: OmniEulogy, Krafla, TheRavensName, Arctic Daishi, bduddy, Matriarch, Frorgon, WaveofShadows You all need to make a stand. Are you going to let marines kills our broodlings one by one? Vote and make a case. Again from somebody who hasn't actually made a single case all game this seems really REALLY bad... looking through his filter and doing this again... I'm actually going to move Taco to my scum list. ##Unvote ##Vote: MeatlessTaco I believe this case is Much stronger than my case on Frorgon and am changing my vote for that reason. What does everybody else make of this case on Taco? In fact... I am going to push for Taco's Lynch, I expect anybody who wants to hit scum to jump on this train, The Wagon of Justice has arrived. + Show Spoiler + On March 09 2013 04:49 OmniEulogy wrote: I'm also quite worried about Taco. His actions so far are a mixture of scum/town so I can't get a good read on him. We have his opening joke vote, which alone I have no problem with However we do end up sticking on NW through pressure of other people so he never actually has to vote. He uses this as an excuse to pressure others to place votes on people when he himself never actually made a serious vote. Keep in mind how early in the game these posts are. I feel that Krafla here was trying to apply pressure the Arctic who had yet said anything at all but Taco tries to pressure him to vote for somebody who hasn't said a single word so far? that's sketchy so early on in the game. Makes it seem like he doesn't care who is voting for who. Again goes after Krafla early on, Why is Taco so obsessed with getting people to vote? The game isn't even through the first 24 hours. Town doesn't need to throw votes out so quickly, they need to think about their actions as Krafla is doing. This raises more questions about how much Taco actually cares who gets lynched. And then we have these back-to-back posts. Holy Shit Hypocrisy. His FIRST real vote is a complete sheep with nothing to add about why Chew is scum. Does he really care who gets lynched? This doesn't take away from the good points he's made and some of his questions have been really good... but the inconsistency is there. ^ My original look through his filter. | ||
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OmniEulogy
Canada6600 Posts
On March 09 2013 06:19 WaveofShadow wrote: Terrible. This was early on in the thread before Frorgon was even under investigation. You've just overtaken everyone as the scummiest person in this thread. No opinions, sheep vote, attempting to prove yourself useful only when under pressure. Fuck this, after re-reading Omni's 'amazing' case I see some holes in it that I'm going to expose eventually. First I'm going to see if Frorgon can dig himself out of this little hole before I do it. ##Unvote ##Vote: Arctic Daishi It's actually interesting because I believe my case on Frorgon isn't very strong due to his low post count I didn't have much to work with however it DOES look scummy due to how lurky he is. I mean shit that's the entire problem town is facing right now, Half of us are lurking and letting scum blend in But you asking me to look at Taco more closely really made me find some interesting points. I didn't even go into it to try and prove him to be scum, let me know what you think of it I believe we've still got 4 hours till lynch. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On March 09 2013 06:20 OmniEulogy wrote: Hmm not sure what else to say about Taco... well actually I'll go the other way, I think I've covered pretty much everything he's done that seems to go against town, but he was right when he said you have to suspect everybody in one of his first posts. I felt that this was a good post, generally people who have decent activity before a game starts and then disappear as soon as it starts deserve to be looked at more closely. At the same time going back to odd actions from him we also have things like this He didn't actually make a case... did he forget? It was a joke vote that stuck and other people attacked NW. There was no case from Taco. Isn't that the exact job town is trying to do? Again from somebody who hasn't actually made a single case all game this seems really REALLY bad... looking through his filter and doing this again... I'm actually going to move Taco to my scum list. ##Unvote ##Vote: MeatlessTaco I believe this case is Much stronger than my case on Frorgon and am changing my vote for that reason. What does everybody else make of this case on Taco? In fact... I am going to push for Taco's Lynch, I expect anybody who wants to hit scum to jump on this train, The Wagon of Justice has arrived. + Show Spoiler + On March 09 2013 04:49 OmniEulogy wrote: I'm also quite worried about Taco. His actions so far are a mixture of scum/town so I can't get a good read on him. We have his opening joke vote, which alone I have no problem with However we do end up sticking on NW through pressure of other people so he never actually has to vote. He uses this as an excuse to pressure others to place votes on people when he himself never actually made a serious vote. Keep in mind how early in the game these posts are. I feel that Krafla here was trying to apply pressure the Arctic who had yet said anything at all but Taco tries to pressure him to vote for somebody who hasn't said a single word so far? that's sketchy so early on in the game. Makes it seem like he doesn't care who is voting for who. Again goes after Krafla early on, Why is Taco so obsessed with getting people to vote? The game isn't even through the first 24 hours. Town doesn't need to throw votes out so quickly, they need to think about their actions as Krafla is doing. This raises more questions about how much Taco actually cares who gets lynched. And then we have these back-to-back posts. Holy Shit Hypocrisy. His FIRST real vote is a complete sheep with nothing to add about why Chew is scum. Does he really care who gets lynched? This doesn't take away from the good points he's made and some of his questions have been really good... but the inconsistency is there. ^ My original look through his filter. Oh god now you're channeling Vivax. Just how much 'inspiration' did you get this game? I expect MeatlessTaco to return triumphantly to the game and analyze (read:remove) his vote on NW, and explain to us who his top scumread is before this goes through. | ||
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WaveofShadow
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WaveofShadow
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All of the lurkers who essentially jumped on the badnwagon and left. That's going be a real bitch to go through and figure out which of them is scum, because I believe there is at LEAST one scum amongst Daishi, Luneth, Matriarch and Krafla. | ||
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nobodywonder
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OmniEulogy
Canada6600 Posts
On March 09 2013 06:28 WaveofShadow wrote: Uh....ignore that emoticon? EBWOP: (Read: remove) Hahahahaha I needed that though  A good laugh while frantically trying to sort this shit out is good for me I think some things are clear as mud so if you need any more explanation just lemme know.As far as the other lurkers go I'd love to get them to chime in on the last 2-3~ pages. Matriarch has made some really good points but hasn't said a lot in general about the game or the upcoming lynch so it's hard to get a read on her. | ||
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OmniEulogy
Canada6600 Posts
On March 09 2013 06:31 nobodywonder wrote: I'm honestly really confused OE. Can you clarify whether or not Frogron still one of your scum reads? He is still a scum read, just not my top one. I'm not going to vote for a lesser scum read when somebody else has painted themselves RED in a much brighter color if that makes any more sense lol | ||
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nobodywonder
United States848 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I didn't even go into it to try and prove him to be scum, let me know what you think of it I believe we've still got 4 hours till lynch. i thought you referred to Frogron as he. It was Taco, my bad | ||
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MilkSuckler
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OmniEulogy
Canada6600 Posts
On March 09 2013 06:33 nobodywonder wrote: oops OE i misread your post as + Show Spoiler + I didn't even go into it to try and prove him to be scum, let me know what you think of it I believe we've still got 4 hours till lynch. i thought you referred to Frogron as he. It was Taco, my bad no problem, I've been known to be terrible at explaining myself and I'm sure I've posted some awkward things such as that in this game as well  Just let me know if I screw up anything else so badly that it stops making sense to you. lol | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
I'm not sold on Taco yet, and I would like to lynch Daishi as of now, though I might consider Chew. Thoughts, active (hopefully) townies? | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
Krafla (0): MLuneth (0): nobodywonder (4): bduddy (1): Arctic Daishi (1): ChewOnStu (3): TheRavensName (1): bduddy Frorgon (2): MeatlessTaco (1): OmniEulogy No vote: nobodywonder is currently set to be lynched. 3.5 hours until the deadline. Voting is mandatory. Please remember to bold your votes, and to unvote if you've previously voted for someone else. | ||
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Frorgon
United States146 Posts
Meanwhile, you ignore my questions towards you completely and instead try to turn the discussion onto me. I'd still like to hear your response to my question of why you loved Omni's initial read on me so much. | ||
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OmniEulogy
Canada6600 Posts
On March 09 2013 06:35 WaveofShadow wrote: Well here's a problem I see. I don't want NW lynched today but since all of the lurkers have piled on top of him, he's currently going to die in 3.5 hours. Since they're lurkers we can't necessarily expect them to come back and change their votes. We're going to have to consolidate our votes to ONE other person to make sure that if there are more scum among the active posters than lurkers, they can't come back and hammer the vote in on NW. I'm not sold on Taco yet, and I would like to lynch Daishi as of now, though I might consider Chew. Thoughts, active (hopefully) townies? The only problem I have with an Arctic lynch today is that there is almost nothing that separates him from bduddy, Chew and Frorgon. Where I see Taco as being very clearly the only person who has put themselves in a very compromising situation and just looks like scum trying to pretend to stay active. What is Arctic is just another bad townie? There's nothing to prove that he is really scum vs bad townie. Where with Taco I can very clearly see a scum read. Thats why I've also switched my vote from Frorgon, very much the same situation. When all the lurkers seem scummy a miss-lynch is much more likely vs a semi-active scum read. | ||
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OmniEulogy
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