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TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 08 2013 20:26 GMT
#481
I'm scared to ask but... whats with the video?Almost seems like a cheap way to make your post seem bigger then it is when filters get checked.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
March 08 2013 20:27 GMT
#482
/facepalm goodbye either way? welp...

@WoS


The quick change of mind and lack of commitment to the Luneth case make it seem like you're scrambling to find something that the rest of town can sheep onto and leave you alone though, and since these cases are on lurkers they're real easy to make since they're not exactly arguing with you.....


I find the Chew case more convincing at the moment. Though the cases are on lurkers, well at least they have to say something...
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
March 08 2013 20:32 GMT
#483
I'm more inclined to /facepalm at TRN's post.

The point of you not telling us about coaching is it creates more WIFOM in a newbie game where WIFOM is bound to be rampant anyway. Do we know if you're lying now or not? Who coached you, scum or town?(DON'T ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS)

Whatever I won't make a big deal about it and I'll do my best to ignore your post that talked about it, but that rapid change in attitude was obvious. In any case there's a couple things you've done here that make you look less scummy to me than a couple other people in here, so in light of his recent post:

##Vote: Frorgon
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Arctic Daishi
Profile Joined February 2013
United States152 Posts
March 08 2013 20:44 GMT
#484
On March 09 2013 03:37 OmniEulogy wrote:
My Case on Frorgon

Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 22:29 Frorgon wrote:
Good morning all.

Glad to see things picking up a bit now.

As far as the discussion on "lurkers", I don't think it can be considered an applicable label for anyone as of yet, I mean there is still a lot of time left in day 1. But I will definitely be keeping my eye out over the next few hours.I also agree that I'd rather find a logical reason to lynch someone on day 1 instead of just randomly choosing someone. I'm not afraid to call people out but it seems quite scummy to just attack someone without any useful contribution behind it.

Also bduddy, you can claim you are lurking for personal reasons, but how are we to know this is true? You were warned before this game started that you should only commit if you had the proper amount of free time. A busy schedule is no excuse, so I do hope you contribute.


I believe now it is applicable to call you a lurker. I'm kind of confused as to why you think it is scummy to attack people to see their reactions and how they react under pressure. I've seen players vote on almost everybody in the game by the end of D1 who weren't scum but were fishing for information, I have yet to see scum play so ballsy.

You claim to not be afraid to call people out on things but when you tried you were almost afraid to commit and were very back and forth about it.

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On March 08 2013 06:29 Frorgon wrote:
@OmniEulogy I'm wondering why you asked me about what I thought was suspicious behavior. I clearly explained that in my initial post about the matter. It made me a bit uneasy about whether or not you were trying to get redundant information posted to cloud up the thread. As Wave said, the amount of posts you had started to raise a red flag for me. And don't get me wrong, it's not necessarily the amount of posts you had that was bad, it was that you seemed to be drowning the thread for a while with just your thoughts and limited discussion from others. That being said, I feel better about your contributions in the past few pages since other people have shown up.


"The amount you talk to yourself while nobody is here raises a red flag, everything you've said while more than 1 person has been here has been awesome!" what? This to me seems like scum trying to pretend to contribute while at the same time not trying to make anybody upset. It wouldn't have made me look at it twice if you had been active and contributing but as we all know you've made 4 posts in nearly 48 hours. This is not acceptable for town. This is the behavior of scum.

Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 19:15 Frorgon wrote:
Alright I'm back. In my opinion, bduddy is not making a good case for himself. That's 3 different excuses for being inactive right now due to his "busy life". I really don't care about how busy your life is.

Nobodywonder still looking real scummy. Unvotes bduddy after the terrible explanation provided. I'm thinking they could both be scum covering for each other. NW makes a case early on against bduddy without actually being serious about it so there are no reprocussions. Bduddy has his suspicion on people who in my opinion don't same overly scummy as of yet, and is defending NW.

Right now I'm narrowing down my vote between NW and bduddy and I plan to make an actual vote shortly after they respond, if they respond. There should still be a decent amount of time on the clock for D1 after my vote.


So many things wrong with your last post.
- Attacks the weakest player in the game NW, WITHOUT placing a vote. Just a casual "wow you are so scummy"
- Makes an association case between NW and Bduddy.
- Claims he will make his case and we will have plenty of time to analyze and go over it. Nice case he's made.

##Vote: Frogron

We need to step it up town. The only two players I can identify as even having a chance at being town are Krafla and Rainbows. If you are town and have been content to just stay quiet and not contribute, wake the fuck up. Nobody is getting replaced tonight, stop talking about it. Everybody has posted D1 the only way somebody is getting replaced is if they don't vote.

The following players are also on my list of potential scum

Arctic Daishi - Playing the noob card after lurking for 36~ hours, NOT a smart move. I want to see some serious contribution from you starting D2 and if I don't I will be pushing for your lynch. Hell if Frogron can save his ass before the end of D1 from me I'll go after you in the next 7 hours.

Bduddy - Lurking, scummy, if Frogron hadn't contributed less I'd be happy to see him gone today. BUT he does claim he's been busy so for D1 he gets some slack. Could just be an uninterested townie. Nothing to really disprove that so far.

ChewOnStu - almost as bad as Frogron, really bad sheep vote. scummy.

NobodyWonder I was going to vote on for most of today but realized if he is lynched and flips town we gain nothing, I'm not against seeing him lynched as I agree he's scummy as hell but I don't want to put all of our eggs in one basket.

And then there is also Matriarch who is lurking as well... the largest problem I can see here, IS THAT THERE IS NO WAY ALL OF YOU ARE SCUM. So TOWNIES again I ask Wake The Fuck Up. I am seriously getting annoyed by the lack of activity out of you. You will cost us this game if you don't snap out of it before we end up lynching you.


Your strong case makes it seem as though Frorgon's scumminess is a forgone conclusion.
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 08 2013 20:44 GMT
#485
@OmniEulogy You're willing to give bduddy more slack than me because he provided some reasoning for lack of posts. I can do the same, and you can take it or leave it. Obviously I was the one who said that making excuses for lurking shouldn't help someone's cause, but you seem not to mind it. So I'll be completely honest, I've had a pretty bad stomach bug for the past 24 hours and have spent most of that time in bed. The whole time I was worried that people might start suspecting me for lurking so I tried to make a post when I could, but basically I slept all night, tried to go to work, had to come home because I had a fever, and slept until about an hour ago.

But again if you want to start coming after people you consider to be lurkers, at least go after the ones who are contributing the least.
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
March 08 2013 20:45 GMT
#486
Oh right it just struck me that I haven't said this yet but for the majority of D1 almost everything Raven has done has struck me as newb townie. He seems to be honestly trying but is just very inexperienced. I don't think scum would make half the mistakes he has been just because they can ask their coach and communicate with each other. Still going to continue watching him closely though as should everybody.

I also think NW's case was a good first step for him. He followed through on what we've been asking him for albeit it was that or he gets lynched.

@NobodyWonder What do you make of the other cases that have been brought forward? Who do you believe to be your top scum reads other than Chew?
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
March 08 2013 20:49 GMT
#487
@Daishi that's your contribution? You'd better give us something concrete right now; the day is still young.

@Frorgon, don't make excuses. I still expect you to respond to my last post in its entirety. Best way to get yourself out of the hole, much like NW seems to have done, is to scumhunt. So start doing it.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
March 08 2013 20:50 GMT
#488
On March 09 2013 05:44 Frorgon wrote:
@OmniEulogy You're willing to give bduddy more slack than me because he provided some reasoning for lack of posts. I can do the same, and you can take it or leave it. Obviously I was the one who said that making excuses for lurking shouldn't help someone's cause, but you seem not to mind it. So I'll be completely honest, I've had a pretty bad stomach bug for the past 24 hours and have spent most of that time in bed. The whole time I was worried that people might start suspecting me for lurking so I tried to make a post when I could, but basically I slept all night, tried to go to work, had to come home because I had a fever, and slept until about an hour ago.

But again if you want to start coming after people you consider to be lurkers, at least go after the ones who are contributing the least.


This is fair enough, but when you say contributing the least, you are on the bottom of that list. Otherwise you wouldn't have been the subject of my case. I will say that Chew looks just as bad though now that you've at least posted.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
March 08 2013 20:54 GMT
#489
@Omni your cases so far have been solid, can you expand on your thoughts on MeatlessTaco? I agree he has been very aggressive in his posting though the only real scummy thing I've seen from him is the sheep vote onto Chew.
Also what are your thoughts regarding the rest of the lurkers today? There are quite a few of them (Matriarch, Daishi, Luneth probably the worst offenders) and it's going to be very difficult to determine what to do with them once the day is over.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
March 08 2013 20:58 GMT
#490
Arctic please contribute more - seriously 1-liner for huge post? Analyze it or at least spoiler it. You are looking really noobie...

@Frorgon why didn't you go after the super lurkers only now, why not earlier like me?

@OE, Frorgon and MLuneth.
i want nobody nobody but you! *clap* *clap*- wonder girls
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 08 2013 21:02 GMT
#491
@Wave I didn't want to make excuses, but Omni seemed to want me to make one so I did.

After looking at your filters I suppose you have posted more but you're still not as prolific as many others in this thread.

Now you've said that my case for my vote isn't good, despite saying earlier in the thread that my case against bduddy was sound. I have stuck to my word on that, as he has not done anything to help his cause. I agree that nobodywonder has done things to help his cause in the past few hours, so my decision was a pretty easy one to make.

@Omni There is no way I am contributing the least. This just isn't true. Can you really say that I am contributing less than bduddy? I have been consistent in my posts for my reasoning, and I think that is most important. I threw some suspicions your way, but you really shouldn't be all too concerned about it because you admitted that you didn't expect people to unconditionally trust you on D1.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-08 21:09:41
March 08 2013 21:03 GMT
#492
Vote Count

Krafla (0): WaveofShadow, TheRavensName, Arctic Daishi
MLuneth (0): Rainbows, nobodywonder
nobodywonder (5): MeatlessTaco, ChewOnStu, Rainbows, TheRavensName, Matriarch, MLuneth, Krafla, Arctic Daishi
bduddy (1): nobodywonder, Frorgon
Arctic Daishi (0): MLuneth
ChewOnStu (3): Rainbows, MeatlessTaco, TheRavensName, nobodywonder
TheRavensName (1): bduddy
Frorgon (3): OmniEulogy, Rainbows, WaveofShadow

No vote:

nobodywonder is currently set to be lynched. 4 hours until the deadline. Voting is mandatory. Please remember to bold your votes, and to unvote if you've previously voted for someone else.
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 08 2013 21:05 GMT
#493
@nobodywonder I explained earlier that I was going to wait and see how bad certain people were lurking. My policy early on was to go after blatant scummy behavior over lurking on the first day. But you've done better in explaining yourself in the past few hours whereas bduddy has been nowhere to be seen. Basically I didn't want to jump to rash decisions. I hope to explain myself too.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 08 2013 21:05 GMT
#494
i think you made a mistake. You have Chew voting for himself instead of my vote there Mocsta.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 08 2013 21:07 GMT
#495
On March 09 2013 06:05 Frorgon wrote:
@nobodywonder I explained earlier that I was going to wait and see how bad certain people were lurking. My policy early on was to go after blatant scummy behavior over lurking on the first day. But you've done better in explaining yourself in the past few hours whereas bduddy has been nowhere to be seen. Basically I didn't want to jump to rash decisions. I hope to explain myself too.


You may have a better chance of affecting the vote by changing it off him. Theres more popular people competing for first blood.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
Arctic Daishi
Profile Joined February 2013
United States152 Posts
March 08 2013 21:07 GMT
#496
I honestly do not believe that nobodywonder is scummy, he seems to honestly want what's best for the town. Also, he has been very defeatist since being accused and has stated his intention of welcoming his lynching if it helps the town. I hereby:

#unvote
#Vote: Frorgon


The Omni's case against Frorgon is simply too great to ignore.
Arctic Daishi
Profile Joined February 2013
United States152 Posts
March 08 2013 21:08 GMT
#497
[i]The case Omni made[i]. Grammatical error, sorry, I know we can't edit.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 08 2013 21:10 GMT
#498
On March 09 2013 06:05 TheRavensName wrote:
i think you made a mistake. You have Chew voting for himself instead of my vote there Mocsta.

I don't know what you are talking about
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 08 2013 21:10 GMT
#499
@Arctic What about Omni's case is so "great"? The claim that I have contributed the least? Because I'm pretty sure you've contributed less than me. Seems pretty easy for you to just sit back and buddy up with people without at least explaining why you like their case so much.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
March 08 2013 21:11 GMT
#500
Somehow ChewonStu has voted twice and has voted for himself, lol.

On March 09 2013 06:02 Frorgon wrote:
@Wave I didn't want to make excuses, but Omni seemed to want me to make one so I did.

After looking at your filters I suppose you have posted more but you're still not as prolific as many others in this thread.
Are you seriously not reading the thread? If even if you discount that my first page of filter is all pre-game banter, I still have been pressuring and making cases the entire day. Who would you say specifically is more 'prolific?'
Now you've said that my case for my vote isn't good, despite saying earlier in the thread that my case against bduddy was sound. I have stuck to my word on that, as he has not done anything to help his cause. I agree that nobodywonder has done things to help his cause in the past few hours, so my decision was a pretty easy one to make.

Your case was sound, hell it still is but it's not GOOD this far into the day. You say you have had stomach issues and couldn't post, fine. STOP MAKING EXCUSES AND SCUMHUNT. Your initial post based on the lack of content in bduddy's filter works early but this late when you have seen other 'prolific' posters actually submitting useful analysis and content is not enough. You're standing by your initial read of bduddy essentially amounts for you choosing to vote lurker. It's a throwaway vote, and looks scummy.
@Omni There is no way I am contributing the least. This just isn't true. Can you really say that I am contributing less than bduddy? I have been consistent in my posts for my reasoning, and I think that is most important. I threw some suspicions your way, but you really shouldn't be all too concerned about it because you admitted that you didn't expect people to unconditionally trust you on D1.[/QUOTE]
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