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On February 26 2013 12:29 randombum wrote:
Well obviously lynching scum is good. But the idea is we can use it to gain a lot of information that simply elected a town mayor who is likely to die does not.

On February 26 2013 12:25 VisceraEyes wrote:


Not if it's "He said starsenses = modconfirmed town" no. LMAO That's the worst shit I've ever seen.

On February 26 2013 12:31 Promethelax wrote:


No it isn't. It is in fact a great way to read grush. He has never used STARSENSES as scum. He has been scum and not used STARSENSES he is very invested in being confirmed town with that breadcrumb, grush doesn't trust his own play to keep him safe and values the crumb as it keeps him alive as town.

On February 26 2013 12:30 The Macho Man wrote:

why are we trying to get information instead of lynching scum?

On February 26 2013 12:30 The Macho Man wrote:

why are we trying to get information instead of lynching scum?

On February 26 2013 12:33 Promethelax wrote:


Why not try to get both? I'm a fan of anyone who tries to use the set up to help us.

On February 26 2013 12:26 Promethelax wrote:


Why not?

On February 26 2013 12:31 Promethelax wrote:


No it isn't. It is in fact a great way to read grush. He has never used STARSENSES as scum. He has been scum and not used STARSENSES he is very invested in being confirmed town with that breadcrumb, grush doesn't trust his own play to keep him safe and values the crumb as it keeps him alive as town.

On February 26 2013 12:35 randombum wrote:


Why are you treating gathering information and lynching scum as mutually exclusive. This plan involves lynching the scum target and putting another in the spotlight.

I could get it if you said something like "this plan would never work because...." or something like that, but to simply dismiss it because gathering information is bad?

On February 26 2013 12:35 randombum wrote:


Why are you treating gathering information and lynching scum as mutually exclusive. This plan involves lynching the scum target and putting another in the spotlight.

I could get it if you said something like "this plan would never work because...." or something like that, but to simply dismiss it because gathering information is bad?

On February 26 2013 12:33 VayeshMoru wrote:


Vayesh thinks that any man of reason or sense could transfer this concept from an old world and make it work for his alternate personality of this world.

On February 26 2013 12:36 VisceraEyes wrote:


And you suppose that whoever is on his scumteam would NOT tell him that's fucking retarded and tell him to say it anyway if he's scum? Because if I rolled scum with grush that's EXACTLY what I'd do, because I'd have a vested interest in him being confirmed town in that game too.

On February 26 2013 12:38 grush57 wrote:

hmm?
if you don't care if I said it or not then what's the point of telling me it if I was scum if you don't care and think it isn't important.

On February 26 2013 12:38 MilkSuckler wrote:

I am not saying this to agree with Prome.

I am saying this because it was an item raised in Mafia LIX. One player instantly called Grush scum due to him unveiling starsenses.

He was town (as in all prior starsenses claims)...I dont trust the claim to be town; but it does put him down the D1 priority pecking list for me.

On February 26 2013 11:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Why would anyone who is town offer an RNG solution? You seriously pushed it then when everyone called it stupid you say it's just for discussion? Now that I'm reading filters I've changed my mind. Promethelax needs to be lynched.

1. "Oh, I only did it for discussion"



GREAT DISCUSSION. If, like you claim, you wanted to create a discussion that would benefit the town and reveal peoples intentions you have failed miserably. You have contributed nothing to the discussion. A question was asked of you and you offer absolutely no insight into the point of the RNG, the intentions of your plan, the intention of anything, it's just worthless bloviating. This post is wet garbage.

If you want to create a discussion, push your point. That's what town does. Town explains his reasoning, pushes the rest of the town toward his goal. "Hey I'm gonna RNG" and "You're bad player if you don't support RNG" isn't a discussion. You don't have the right to blame the failure of your plan on the rest of the town when you put zero effort into convincing anybody that it was a good idea. Don't dare come out and say you don't really think RNG is a good idea and you only did it as part of some secret scumhunting trap plan because that's bullshit. Please tell me how you planned to find scum or do anything productive this way.

2. RNG isn't transparent. It can't be unless you post a youtube video of you entering everything in and announcing the results. There's no screenshot you can take that proves it was a real RNG.

Also this:


This sounds like a vet scum in his team told him what to say, or a really bad fake scumhunting. The ideas which gerpit proposes weren't worth responding to. You didn't respond to them. You don't seem interested in it. You seem more interested in day plans and your own candidacy, how is that any better than pointing out the flawed reasoning in someones campaign? His point about the nightkills is directly related to gerpit's platform for mayor so your entire accusation is a complete wash.



Thanks for finally explaining that. Although that's a plan that only works if you withhold information from the town and again has absolutely nothing to do with any sort of discussion except for the one that the scum might be having in their private chat.

I don't understand your pressure on Aquanim either. You called him out for a weak accusation of ObviousOne and all of a sudden he's scummy (the best you had done up to that point is argue with VE and point a finger at WoS for bad reason). You ask him to tell you his scumread (which he had already stated and explained) and all he did was basically say the same thing he already said, but now it's townie? It's really unconfident and nothing about aquanims accusations against OO changed at all.

That's my best guess for right now. Feel free to convince me otherwise. Which mayor is going to lynch Promethelax again?

On February 26 2013 12:38 The Macho Man wrote:

we put someone in there that is scummy he could be town or he could be scum. If he is scum he just lynches someone that looks scummy in the thread. If he is town and is a bad player he lynches someone that might be town or scum.

We figure out who is town and the best scum hunter and he will likely lynch scum. That gives us the best chance of killing scum and that is what we will do.

On February 26 2013 12:41 VayeshMoru wrote:
However the annuls will record that the mask of the bovine has declared a correct statement.
The rushing man is not in danger of the deathmachines for now.

On February 26 2013 12:36 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

As town it doubles the huge incentive that mafia already have to hit me and as mafia it doubles the intensity of the spotlight and accusations. The added pressure on either side fucks with my game and I don't play as well in a mayor game. I don't see the role as particularly useful without bodyguards because the mayor is going to be lynched or killed either way. I feel more comfortable on the outside looking in if that makes sense. I'm trying to stop posting too much (as I have been every game and failed in every game). That should be reason enough. If I think the lynch is going in the wrong direction I might run though.

@WoS, please don't use your meta as a bailout for bad or scummy play. Just try to improve. Focus on hunting scum and explain your reasoning better. I have zero interests in your ideas about the campaign. If Promethelax is your top scumread, why are you hesitant to push for him to be lynched? Is not the goal of the game to lynch scum? If Prom is town, we all move on with the information we have and continue to push and pressure until the town wins. It's not going to be a perfect victory so don't get caught up in your own lack of confidence.