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Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
March 04 2013 11:56 GMT
#3381
On March 04 2013 20:50 MilkSuckler wrote:
I tell you, if aqua and wade fell are scum.. well fucking done.

The constant mentor / student association happening here reads with some conviction.

Wade
Considering Geript refuses to vote for Aquanim (even when Aquanim is under heat) & Aquanim has required coaching (from you ) to agree on each lynch... What are your current thoughts on a Aquanim as the next Day lynch?



When Geript flips scum, my suspicion of Aquanim shoots up greatly. It has been noted that on the toad lynch my efforts to convince him were not in fact very convincing to others-- though I certainly found them convincing. His odd words about lynching for information during D2 are also troubling, as well as his slowness to vote Chez (though he did verbally commit to such a vote early in the day). I have a couple other candidates on my radar as well, as much as they can *be* on a radar-- hassybaby and ObviousOne
Politics is the Mind-Killer
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
March 04 2013 11:56 GMT
#3382
Regardless, I will not be drawing associative tells between unflipped players.
Politics is the Mind-Killer
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
March 04 2013 11:57 GMT
#3383
Just making sure. It certainly wouldn't do for a mafia player to cry their way out of the noose.
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MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 04 2013 12:00 GMT
#3384
On March 04 2013 20:56 Wade Fell wrote:
Regardless, I will not be drawing associative tells between unflipped players.

No no.. i understand that.. im just highlighting prematurely I find Aquanim play severely underwhelming (him self-admitting that, doesnt make him town).

Im leaning towards intentional uselessness... the coaching tactic is pretty clever though and next time I roll scum might give it a shot..

It displays interest in the lynch; and also allows the coach to get an ego boost (which always helps with giving town reads)
Overall, I like the strat
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 04 2013 12:02 GMT
#3385
On March 04 2013 20:57 Wade Fell wrote:
Just making sure. It certainly wouldn't do for a mafia player to cry their way out of the noose.

Yes.. but it is a tried and true method.
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
March 04 2013 12:02 GMT
#3386
This might be the only time anyone has suggested that I am too friendly, and this may be a scumtell.
Politics is the Mind-Killer
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 04 2013 12:04 GMT
#3387
On March 04 2013 20:56 Wade Fell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 20:50 MilkSuckler wrote:
I tell you, if aqua and wade fell are scum.. well fucking done.

The constant mentor / student association happening here reads with some conviction.

Wade
Considering Geript refuses to vote for Aquanim (even when Aquanim is under heat) & Aquanim has required coaching (from you ) to agree on each lynch... What are your current thoughts on a Aquanim as the next Day lynch?



When Geript flips scum, my suspicion of Aquanim shoots up greatly. It has been noted that on the toad lynch my efforts to convince him were not in fact very convincing to others-- though I certainly found them convincing. His odd words about lynching for information during D2 are also troubling, as well as his slowness to vote Chez (though he did verbally commit to such a vote early in the day). I have a couple other candidates on my radar as well, as much as they can *be* on a radar-- hassybaby and ObviousOne

With hassybaby.. surely.. he is getting modkilled.. no activity is like 5 days

OO, yeah I find the timing of his de-lurk very odd.. i didnt want to comment because I didnt want to interupt the conversation between OO/Aqua... but I found it *VERY* suspicious

Sounds like you have no qualms with jcarlsoniv?
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
March 04 2013 12:07 GMT
#3388
jcarlsoniv is scummy, but not like obviousone or aqua is. He is more suspicious if by some stretch of the imagination geript flips town since he pushed geript yesterday as a counterwagon to chez.

In fact, about 60% of the players in this game are scummy for one reason or another. I'll just lynch them one at a time, starting with the scummiest first, until all the scum are gone.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 04 2013 12:07 GMT
#3389
On March 04 2013 21:02 Wade Fell wrote:
This might be the only time anyone has suggested that I am too friendly, and this may be a scumtell.

That went over my head. is this aquanim?
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
March 04 2013 12:08 GMT
#3390
On March 04 2013 20:56 Wade Fell wrote:
His odd words about lynching for information during D2 are also troubling, as well as his slowness to vote Chez (though he did verbally commit to such a vote early in the day).

Well, now day 2's over I may as well explain what I was doing there.
The Chezinu wagon was all well and good but I thought that committing to it in the first few hours of d2 and then not having anything else to discuss for the rest of the day wouldn't be as useful as discussing other stuff for the first half of the day or so and then consolidating.
I never had any intention of *lynching* for information, only *voting* for information. Trouble is, once you call something a pressure vote it immediately ceases to exert any actual pressure... so I danced around the point of gathering information and hoped you'd take the hint.
Obviously Hassybaby never showed up to be pressured and my vote on him was about as useful as iceskates for a parrot. The only thing that came of it was that Macho Man voted for Hassy too and strongly endorsed his lynch. Still not sure exactly what I make of that, though.
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
March 04 2013 12:09 GMT
#3391
zZz pro filter time


On March 04 2013 21:07 Blazinghand wrote:
jcarlsoniv is scummy, but not like obviousone or aqua is. He is more suspicious if by some stretch of the imagination geript flips town since he pushed geript yesterday as a counterwagon to chez.

In fact, about 60% of the players in this game are scummy for one reason or another. I'll just lynch them one at a time, starting with the scummiest first, until all the scum are gone.



On March 04 2013 21:07 MilkSuckler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 21:02 Wade Fell wrote:
This might be the only time anyone has suggested that I am too friendly, and this may be a scumtell.

That went over my head. is this aquanim?


Uou mention in this post (link) that giving and recieving coaching is a good scum strat for appearing productive, and would allow a coach (in this case, me), to give out townreads (to aquanim) easily with an ego boost if we were scumbuddies. Typically, I have a highly abrasive style of play and people criticize me for being too brash (as a scumtell) rather than too nurturing (as a scumtell). I was pleasantly surprised to read this.
Politics is the Mind-Killer
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
March 04 2013 12:10 GMT
#3392
And of course my "Uou" I mean "You"
Politics is the Mind-Killer
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 04 2013 12:14 GMT
#3393
On March 04 2013 21:09 Wade Fell wrote:
zZz pro filter time


Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 21:07 Blazinghand wrote:
jcarlsoniv is scummy, but not like obviousone or aqua is. He is more suspicious if by some stretch of the imagination geript flips town since he pushed geript yesterday as a counterwagon to chez.

In fact, about 60% of the players in this game are scummy for one reason or another. I'll just lynch them one at a time, starting with the scummiest first, until all the scum are gone.



Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 21:07 MilkSuckler wrote:
On March 04 2013 21:02 Wade Fell wrote:
This might be the only time anyone has suggested that I am too friendly, and this may be a scumtell.

That went over my head. is this aquanim?


Uou mention in this post (link) that giving and recieving coaching is a good scum strat for appearing productive, and would allow a coach (in this case, me), to give out townreads (to aquanim) easily with an ego boost if we were scumbuddies. Typically, I have a highly abrasive style of play and people criticize me for being too brash (as a scumtell) rather than too nurturing (as a scumtell). I was pleasantly surprised to read this.

Fair enough.. I assume your saying Aquanim treating you as a coach is the scum tell

In the case that you are indeed referencing me.. I am the one that has been having digs at you all game for the e-peen contest.

Either way... I just wish these cycles were shorter, its now not even a case of having good reads.. town has the numbers advantage (Especially with max. 1 KP from scum (maybe 2Kp for one night if JOAT is around)).. we can just lynch systematically to the win.

In fact, scum really should just concede if they used the JOAT night 1 .,. cos no chance bartender can douse everyone left to a win.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2013 13:12 GMT
#3394
On March 04 2013 19:55 Wade Fell wrote:
Geript has no tools, no day vigilante shot to wave around, and unlike Prom he is the 4th of 5 scum and cannot afford to go quietly into the night.

Well you're at least right about me having no tools.

So he feigns anger, but he does it carefully-- no additional information or cases given out, just lashing at the two strongest townies remaining in the game. And geript is no ordinary anger-feigner, he is a skilled technician who works with mental patients-- he can feign anger like no other.

Hmmmm, we'll see about how much I've been feigning if I ever become a vig.

On March 04 2013 20:10 Wade Fell wrote:
As a final note, and this must not be ignored: as it became clear his lynch today is unavoidable, geript has stopped trying to lynch his scumreads and is instead doing anything to avoid getting lynched. If we remember, as N2 drew to an end, geript stated (link) his three scumreads were Aqua, WoS, and one of Hassy/RO/DrH with TMM as potential third-party. As D3 dawned and he realized I was truly against him, he decided that I too was scum.

No, my lynch became unavoidable halfway through D2 at the latest. No, at D3 I realized who you are(or who I think you are). Well you're partially right I have stopped trying. So since you're so interested in me doing something productive, I'm not going to. I'm not interested in doing anything that could possibly help someone who is intentionally making a case for a retributive lynch. Quite frankly, the fact that you're making the case should help me when I say: LYNCH THIS MOTHERFUCKER WITH FIRE!!!!!
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 04 2013 13:36 GMT
#3395
On March 04 2013 22:12 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 19:55 Wade Fell wrote:
Geript has no tools, no day vigilante shot to wave around, and unlike Prom he is the 4th of 5 scum and cannot afford to go quietly into the night.

Well you're at least right about me having no tools.

Show nested quote +
So he feigns anger, but he does it carefully-- no additional information or cases given out, just lashing at the two strongest townies remaining in the game. And geript is no ordinary anger-feigner, he is a skilled technician who works with mental patients-- he can feign anger like no other.

Hmmmm, we'll see about how much I've been feigning if I ever become a vig.

Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 20:10 Wade Fell wrote:
As a final note, and this must not be ignored: as it became clear his lynch today is unavoidable, geript has stopped trying to lynch his scumreads and is instead doing anything to avoid getting lynched. If we remember, as N2 drew to an end, geript stated (link) his three scumreads were Aqua, WoS, and one of Hassy/RO/DrH with TMM as potential third-party. As D3 dawned and he realized I was truly against him, he decided that I too was scum.

No, my lynch became unavoidable halfway through D2 at the latest. No, at D3 I realized who you are(or who I think you are). Well you're partially right I have stopped trying. So since you're so interested in me doing something productive, I'm not going to. I'm not interested in doing anything that could possibly help someone who is intentionally making a case for a retributive lynch. Quite frankly, the fact that you're making the case should help me when I say: LYNCH THIS MOTHERFUCKER WITH FIRE!!!!!

Im getting tired of this

Seriously.. PM the mother fucker and ask if he is "xxxx" .. This side-story is total bullshit to read and is almost worthy of a warning for playing against your win-con (whether town or scum)
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
March 04 2013 13:39 GMT
#3396
On March 04 2013 22:36 MilkSuckler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 22:12 geript wrote:
On March 04 2013 19:55 Wade Fell wrote:
Geript has no tools, no day vigilante shot to wave around, and unlike Prom he is the 4th of 5 scum and cannot afford to go quietly into the night.

Well you're at least right about me having no tools.

So he feigns anger, but he does it carefully-- no additional information or cases given out, just lashing at the two strongest townies remaining in the game. And geript is no ordinary anger-feigner, he is a skilled technician who works with mental patients-- he can feign anger like no other.

Hmmmm, we'll see about how much I've been feigning if I ever become a vig.

On March 04 2013 20:10 Wade Fell wrote:
As a final note, and this must not be ignored: as it became clear his lynch today is unavoidable, geript has stopped trying to lynch his scumreads and is instead doing anything to avoid getting lynched. If we remember, as N2 drew to an end, geript stated (link) his three scumreads were Aqua, WoS, and one of Hassy/RO/DrH with TMM as potential third-party. As D3 dawned and he realized I was truly against him, he decided that I too was scum.

No, my lynch became unavoidable halfway through D2 at the latest. No, at D3 I realized who you are(or who I think you are). Well you're partially right I have stopped trying. So since you're so interested in me doing something productive, I'm not going to. I'm not interested in doing anything that could possibly help someone who is intentionally making a case for a retributive lynch. Quite frankly, the fact that you're making the case should help me when I say: LYNCH THIS MOTHERFUCKER WITH FIRE!!!!!

Im getting tired of this

Seriously.. PM the mother fucker and ask if he is "xxxx" .. This side-story is total bullshit to read and is almost worthy of a warning for playing against your win-con (whether town or scum)


I'd actually recommend against PMing me, and if you do so I will probably ignore it while we're still in this game. PMs no good. in any case I assume that this, like many other things geript has said, is a fabrication
Politics is the Mind-Killer
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2013 13:42 GMT
#3397
Ok then, wait for the flip.
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 04 2013 13:43 GMT
#3398
On March 04 2013 22:39 Wade Fell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 22:36 MilkSuckler wrote:
On March 04 2013 22:12 geript wrote:
On March 04 2013 19:55 Wade Fell wrote:
Geript has no tools, no day vigilante shot to wave around, and unlike Prom he is the 4th of 5 scum and cannot afford to go quietly into the night.

Well you're at least right about me having no tools.

So he feigns anger, but he does it carefully-- no additional information or cases given out, just lashing at the two strongest townies remaining in the game. And geript is no ordinary anger-feigner, he is a skilled technician who works with mental patients-- he can feign anger like no other.

Hmmmm, we'll see about how much I've been feigning if I ever become a vig.

On March 04 2013 20:10 Wade Fell wrote:
As a final note, and this must not be ignored: as it became clear his lynch today is unavoidable, geript has stopped trying to lynch his scumreads and is instead doing anything to avoid getting lynched. If we remember, as N2 drew to an end, geript stated (link) his three scumreads were Aqua, WoS, and one of Hassy/RO/DrH with TMM as potential third-party. As D3 dawned and he realized I was truly against him, he decided that I too was scum.

No, my lynch became unavoidable halfway through D2 at the latest. No, at D3 I realized who you are(or who I think you are). Well you're partially right I have stopped trying. So since you're so interested in me doing something productive, I'm not going to. I'm not interested in doing anything that could possibly help someone who is intentionally making a case for a retributive lynch. Quite frankly, the fact that you're making the case should help me when I say: LYNCH THIS MOTHERFUCKER WITH FIRE!!!!!

Im getting tired of this

Seriously.. PM the mother fucker and ask if he is "xxxx" .. This side-story is total bullshit to read and is almost worthy of a warning for playing against your win-con (whether town or scum)


I'd actually recommend against PMing me, and if you do so I will probably ignore it while we're still in this game. PMs no good. in any case I assume that this, like many other things geript has said, is a fabrication
True true.. apologies for lapse of thought.
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
March 04 2013 13:49 GMT
#3399
On March 04 2013 22:42 geript wrote:
Ok then, wait for the flip.


with pleasure

huehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehue
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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2013 13:56 GMT
#3400
You guys should take a serious look at DrH too. Someone is very interested in pardoner, very invested in lynching scum ASAP and willing to play until the boom. I can't imagine him ever being bartender.
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