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Adam4167
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On March 03 2013 00:37 Adam4167 wrote: No, you double lynch Yamato and Acro. If they wont play along, you single lynch them one day at a time. No, you take me seriously. We could've avoided this problem had you all double lynched yesterday... | ||
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Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
I have never not had a town read on Sylencia. Why would I let you kill someone I have a town read on. | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On March 03 2013 00:40 Adam4167 wrote: I have never not taken you seriously. I have never not had a town read on Sylencia. Why would I let you kill someone I have a town read on. How in the world do you have a town read on Sylencia? In all honesty your read is based off of the first 3 hours of the game. That makes no sense. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Also Cora. You dont get to be a hero when you criticized it earlier. So please bring it back after we mislynch like 2 times. | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On March 03 2013 00:44 Oatsmaster wrote: Wait why Acro? Also Cora. You dont get to be a hero when you criticized it earlier. So please bring it back after we mislynch like 2 times. Once again, you all could've settled this earlier. The fact that you all did not double lynch is absolutely atrocious, and this is your punishment... | ||
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Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
What incentive does a newbie scum have telling a mental-box townie to curb his aggression since "the game isn't all about his reads". Hes telling me to stop being an idiot before I get myself mislynched, what scum is going to tell you to stop acting in a manner that is more likely to get you lynched. Short of him copying a scum role-pm into the thread and claiming mafia, I wasn't changing that read. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
I dont think Syl is scum. So therefore I dont want to lynch him or double lynch yesterday. Keep in mind you are the ONLY person who has a scum read on Syl. Also you said this earlier On February 25 2013 09:38 cDgCorazon wrote: Yamato, why are you saying that we should all trust your scumhunting skills and let you duel everyone we think is scum, and then turn around and say that town will not always comply to everything that is said. You were being so stubborn on the fact that others don't want you to go gung-ho and do all of the scumhunting for us, and now you are being stubborn on the fact that Marv's plan relies on town being compliant. Doesn't town compliance work in the same what for your desired approach to the game as well? Which is applicable to the current situation. | ||
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Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
On March 03 2013 00:44 Oatsmaster wrote: Wait why Acro? Also Cora. You dont get to be a hero when you criticized it earlier. So please bring it back after we mislynch like 2 times. Sometimes, I wonder if you read anything I post. He gave a town read on Dieno. TOP 4 TOWN READ. Acro is better than that. The Acro that just steamrolled CT mafia isnt giving a TOP 4 TOWN READ to someone making posts like Dieno was. Its just not happening. | ||
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Adam4167
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Although can you say he has not been helpful to town and basically looking like a townie? I dont think he is the right lynch for tomorrow, there are scummier people. | ||
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Adam4167
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Also yeah you are probably getting nightkilled if your reads are correct. | ||
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Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
Take a close look at what happened right after Keirathi flips red, discussion turns to who should be in the next duel. Thrawn says: On February 28 2013 06:52 thrawn2112 wrote: and yeah I think I also want the deino vs slyencia duel Deino/Syl: Do either of you think the other person deserves to be lynched and would you be willing to duel them? To which Acro replies: On February 28 2013 06:58 Acrofales wrote: I prefer Zare/Sylencia. Zare looks REALLY terrible with the Keir flip. Trying to sub his scummy teammate out of the duel. I never thought Zarepath looked that bad after the Keirathi flip, so moving him above Deinosore in the 'to be duelled' queue caught my attention, keeping in mind that Dienosore has just posted this: On February 27 2013 11:33 Dienosore wrote: Late day at the office. Got back about an hour ago and caught up on the thread. I promised an investigation into the duelers, so here it is. Adam4167 + Show Spoiler + Timeline: - immediately busts into the thread with a vigilante disposition and challenges me to a duel. - begins to argue with marv - cuts me down - prods Corazon a few times, calls him uninteresting, then drops him - tells Zarepath he's given out reads on several players, when actually he has done very little other than accuse me of scum and clear Corazon. - clears Oats - supports Thrawn/Keir duel. - threatens Keir with a duel - clears Thrawn - defends his stance a bit more, then snaps a duel on Keir - general posturing, says his mafia meta is lurky and passive, calls Yamato delusional - reinforces that his play isnt mafia motivated a few times. - outright claims town Summary: I have to admit that I am a bit biased due to our previous interactions, but I can't shake the feeling that this guy is scum. He seems to be trying to cause as much chaos as possible, then once all the shit has been slung, reinforces over and over again that he is town. He also seems to be exclusively picking on the Keirathi + Show Spoiler + Timeline: - disagrees with Thrawn's stance to just 'let things happen as they will' - says Thrawn is currently his biggest scumread - puts suspicion on Adam due to his rogue bravado - tries to advance our dueling policy - says he is willing to duel Thrawn - argues a bit more with Adam about dueling policy - gets called out by Adam - general defending Summary: As I said earlier, I was completely surprised by Adam snapping on Keir. I've gone through Keir's filter a few times since the duel was called, but I still can't find anything that sticks out as obviously scum motivated. Other than a bit of back and forth banter mostly discussing dueling policy, he has kept a relatively low profile. The only real aggression shown has been directed towards a scummy looking Thrawn. It's true his activity has been a little slow, but not so much that I'd see any reason to raise any alarms. Overall, I'd say he has been playing it overly safe, if anything. So with that, I feel compelled to cast my vote now. Considering how the game started, I don't think it's going to surprise anyone. ##Vote: Adam4167 So not only is Dienosore not his prime candidate, he's bumped him back as far as -at least- 3rd highest to be duelled. Keeping in mind that Keirathi has flipped red only minutes earlier, making Dieno look AWFUL. Acro then wastes what literally must have taken hours putting together a case on Zarepath, finds it unconvincing and then posts it anyway, along with dismantling Zarepaths case against Keirathi, a completely pointless exercise that only serves to say 'hey guys, I'm doing stuff, see?'. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17900561 I've written probably a dozen cases in my mafia-playing career that I've found unconvincing and I've posted exactly zero of them. What townie wants to fill the thread with shit that they never intend to act upon, nor mention again? It is blatant padding. Acro finally caves on his 'dieno is cute and i like maps' read shortly after this, realizing it is hopeless trying to save him. If Acro is scum then why was he pushing for a double-lynch when Adam and Keirathi were in a duel? I hear you saying. Simple. He couldn't back out of his 'Keirathi is scum' read from N0 without taking an epic amount of heat. In fact I think he was probably considering it right about here: On February 27 2013 12:34 Acrofales wrote: Fine, I'm happy killing you. Now all that's left to figure out is whether I really want to kill Keirathi as well or not. But decided it would still draw too much heat after keirathi's eventual flip, which was unavoidable, so he bussed him further: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17894289 | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Adam suddenly whipping out the killer game huh. :D Please dont flip scum. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18280 Posts
On March 03 2013 00:59 Adam4167 wrote: The yamato/acro interaction on D1 felt like a weak bus. He slams him calling him 'hilariously scummy' and 'scummiest thing in the thread' yet he never chases it up, ever. So I'm scum because Yamato is flinging shit. That doesn't even make sense. Scum flings shit all the time. Almost always at townies. As for my D1 reads. Do you remember me defending Sandroba to the death in CT? I did. I tried my damndest to push that lynch off Sandroba. My read was utterly wrong. I was trying to push that lynch off one scum and onto another. This game I wanted to kill Keirathi. Sure, I got a bit sidetracked by your stupidity and wanted to kill both of you, but I never wavered in wanting to lynch Keirathi. So... I gave a townread on a scum. So did Marv (Keirathi). Are you trying to say that you hold me to a higher standard than Marv? D1 reads aren't strong reads. They are first impressions. I gave Dieno the benefit of the doubt. I've seen plenty of noob townies make posts equal or worse than that one. I was nowhere near sure Marv or Dieno were town. I just didn't see any point in putting them up for discussion. Marv, because if he's not town, it'll show later in the game. Dieno, because giving Bill Murray-esque players some time is what you have to do. Add that to what I remembered from PU where he was mislynched for similar behaviour and he just really needed that time. It was totally worth it and I would do it again: treat players like this as town and they will repay you as town, or do absolutely nothing as scum. Dieno did nothing, so he got lynched. If I had been scum I would have NAILED him to the stake for that post. See LVI for what I do with Bill Murray when I'm scum. I bus the crap out of him. I bussed him so hard that BM was yelling I was an asshole in the scumQT. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18280 Posts
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Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
On March 03 2013 01:24 Acrofales wrote: Fine, I'll duel yamato and you can kill both of us. I trust Adam to ride this game out to victory anyway. Just lynch Zare after I'm dead. Yep, works for me. I'd kill him if one of you two flipped town. | ||
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Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
Follow the plan. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Aw one big happy family. | ||
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