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@Acro: If you are going to make the same points I am, please just quote me. Thanks.
@Syl: If we lynch Dieno, we are going to know his alignment. The problem with finding out his alignment first is that it is going to open us up to a ridiculous amount of association cases between me and you. Do we really want that? I don't think so.
@Adam: I don't understand why we are all so convinced there aren't two scum here. It's a huge risk for scum, but if we have 66% or 100% of the scum team here, I think they would definitely need to take a risk as crazy as this in the hopes that we lynch one of them and allow the other one a "clean slate" really. If we are all assuming that one is scum and the other is town, we are all setting ourselves up to be duped by at least one scum player. I really think we need to double lynch. Even if we don't get 2 scum, we send the message that the town is not afraid to cut dead weight and distractions.
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On March 02 2013 00:28 cDgCorazon wrote:
@Acro: If you are going to make the same points I am, please just quote me. Thanks.
@Syl: If we lynch Dieno, we are going to know his alignment. The problem with finding out his alignment first is that it is going to open us up to a ridiculous amount of association cases between me and you. Do we really want that? I don't think so.
@Adam: I don't understand why we are all so convinced there aren't two scum here. It's a huge risk for scum, but if we have 66% or 100% of the scum team here, I think they would definitely need to take a risk as crazy as this in the hopes that we lynch one of them and allow the other one a "clean slate" really. If we are all assuming that one is scum and the other is town, we are all setting ourselves up to be duped by at least one scum player. I really think we need to double lynch. Even if we don't get 2 scum, we send the message that the town is not afraid to cut dead weight and distractions.
What points?
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##Vote Dienosore
You guys are most likely right about him, and I feel like Sylencia is most likely town of the two. While lurky and useless is Syl's town meta, it is not Dieno's so he can die.
As a side note I'm pretty sure Hapa is mafia, now, and much less sure of Acro.
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Reading through the thread now, glad to see some activity.
My activity level over the next couple hours will depend on how busy work is, but it's looking slow thus far.
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I'm leaning town on Cora again, btw. The lynch for information post was terrible, but I cannot see a scum Cora sticking his neck out so far and putting it on the chopping block if he KNOWS Syl would flip town. I also cannot imagine him pushing this hard to bus his scumbuddy over what I can only assume is then an unwitting townie in Dieno.
The play doesn't smell of a bus, and the reasoning for "lynch him so you know my alignment" was horrible, but I don't see how he's scum for it.
Now all that's left is to figure out whether he's right about Sylencia being scum.
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Yamato, actually why is Hapa scum more than before?
IMO he has only gotten townier. I would like to hear you about it though.
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On March 02 2013 01:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yamato, actually why is Hapa scum more than before?
IMO he has only gotten townier. I would like to hear you about it though.
Activity level, effort in the game, concern with lynch periods. All of it is low for town Hapa.
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What a vague reply.
Lol...
So Hapa bussed keir?
Like what does that say about his alignment.
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I am certain scum bussed Keir.
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Thread sentiment was against adam at the time where Hapa voted for Keirathi.
Why not push adam and try to get him lynched?
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On March 02 2013 01:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
Thread sentiment was against adam at the time where Hapa voted for Keirathi.
Why not push adam and try to get him lynched?
So unless 3 out of Syl, Dieno, thrawn and myself are scum, someone bussed Keir. Who do you think that is?
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I think we can all agree, Syl's post duel analysis has been much better than Dienosore's. I also don't like how the initial duel went down (yes I acknowledge I was asking for this very duel).
The town seemed to be discussing other options, and honestly really fleshing out some people that had not previously been analyzed (I am one of them). I don't see a townie's motivation to push the duel there. Sure Dieno was the favorite to go in, but if I'm town in that situation I'm going to hold out and let the discussion play out. If I'm scum in that situation I'm going to duel the lynch bait and not let town pit me against another scum or someone who I have a better chance of losing to.
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Is everyone settled on Dieno?
If I put my vote on him I think the hammer would come pretty quickly. I can hold off if we want to keep discussing. My vote will eventually go on Dieno unless something radical happens, but if we want some more time I'd gladly hold on to it.
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Let me read Syl's filter again. However, I agree that if only one of them is scum, it's Dieno.
Dieno has been grabbing at straws and it has felt as if he has been trying to not-look-scummy more than contribute to the town.
I just really hate the idea that if we're wrong about Dieno and he really is a townie flailing around, then we are stuck again tomorrow with a coinflip on Sylencia. I'll reread both their filters, but unless I find something really new, I think I will also be voting very soon. Syl seems to have gone to bed, although I really would've liked his opinions on some more people.
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Possibly Cora, but like it could be none though :/
Thrawn has been utterly useless :/
I would like to see the outcome of this lynch and the nightkill before putting up further reads.
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I'm a little confused. Where are all the people pushing for the double lynch last time? This duel seems like a much more worthwhile double lynch. Where's that push?
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On March 02 2013 00:28 cDgCorazon wrote:
@Syl: If we lynch Dieno, we are going to know his alignment. The problem with finding out his alignment first is that it is going to open us up to a ridiculous amount of association cases between me and you. Do we really want that? I don't think so.
What do you mean by this? What are the association cases?
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Alderan.
The whole game you seem to be waiting for someone to make the case for you.
Why?
Why dont you just push the double lynch?
How come this double lynch is not scum favoured?
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On March 02 2013 02:03 Alderan wrote:
I'm a little confused. Where are all the people pushing for the double lynch last time? This duel seems like a much more worthwhile double lynch. Where's that push?
I have explained this already.
Last lynch I wanted a double lynch, because I had a strong scumread on Keirathi, which was somewhat mitigated by Adam going crazy and dueling him, but never really went away. I was torn between thinking Adam's duel was a VERY anti-town move and my earlier scumread on Keirathi, so kill them both.
Then later I still couldn't reconcile Adam's behaviour with him being town, so got a bit caught up in my 3P theory and wanted to lynch him for being 3P (and Keirathi still for being scum).
This lynch the only reason to lynch both of them is because we cannot decide who is scum. I realize that that is a terrible reason for double-lynching and I should have realized that on D1 before my 3P theory came into play, but I guess my anger at Adam clouded my judgement.
So... unless I think both are scum, I am no longer a fan of double lynching, and I agree with Adam that it is pretty unlikely they're both scum.
Anyway, I've caught up on Dieno and Sylencia's filter and found nothing new. I am up for lynching Dieno. However, I do still want to hear from Zarepath and Snarfs what their opinions are, so lets lay off on the voting.
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On March 02 2013 02:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
Alderan.
The whole game you seem to be waiting for someone to make the case for you.
Why?
Why dont you just push the double lynch?
How come this double lynch is not scum favoured?
You are a child. This will be my last response to you until you start paying attention to the thread.
I do not want a double lynch. I am interested why it's not being pushed this time considering these two seem infinitely more scummy than Adam and Kier did.
Again, I hope you start playing with some sense, but if you don't I will not be wasting my time responding to you anymore.
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