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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 13 2013 19:54 GMT
#948
Oh and for the record it may seem like I'm tunneling Sevryn for now due to my read, but I'm not going to be so obstinate as I was yesterday so if sufficient evidence is brought up and I feel more strongly about Sylencia/Mandalor (which seems to be where the wagon is heading these days) I could get on that.
I think I have to really look into a lot of filters before I come back, and come back with something strong.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 14 2013 01:04 GMT
#1001
Bye guys! Was fun for my first game!
I'll try to do better next time!
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 19 2013 17:40 GMT
#1595
If I wasn't knocked off N1 for no reason maybe my almost-vote-switch to Sevryn would have meant something. Bleah. Oh well at least I was somewhat vindicated.
Gg all!
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 19 2013 17:42 GMT
#1596
Also shit like this game is why you lynch lurkers.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 19 2013 17:58 GMT
#1604
On February 20 2013 02:57 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 02:56 geript wrote:
The Setup isn't the problem but a vigilante wouldn't hurt.

Vig on top of this would have ended the game even faster, I reckon.

I agree. No one knew shit.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 19 2013 20:22 GMT
#1632
When does the next NMM begin?
I want to play my 3 already so I can play in a game where more than half the players actually participate.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-19 20:32:05
February 19 2013 20:31 GMT
#1641
On February 20 2013 05:27 Mocsta wrote:
Gg guys.

Can understand the pain. Hurts when u think one of your own has been actively hindering your thought processes all game. :;

But yes the SK slip was bad in the con text that I knew he wasn't scum...but it was genuinely based on TS being solely focused on SK/vig

Just remember I actively lead town to each lynch.. It was by no means an easy win, I don't think if sno/zare delurked over the weekend I would have been high for suspicion and I still had war baby I could push.

You guys had it a lot easier than you could have though. So much lurk.
Also I was convinced Sev was scum and was going to tunnel the shit out of him until I could get enough to prove it 100%, but then SK took care of me for you guys.

In any case I think I have some of how the game (and maybe player meta) works now so I'm going to try signing up for any game that'll take me.
I'm HOOKED, gentlemen.

Edit: Also, just remembered something. What was the deal with the Sylencia RB?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 19 2013 20:42 GMT
#1648
On February 20 2013 05:39 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 05:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 20 2013 05:27 Mocsta wrote:
Gg guys.

Can understand the pain. Hurts when u think one of your own has been actively hindering your thought processes all game. :;

But yes the SK slip was bad in the con text that I knew he wasn't scum...but it was genuinely based on TS being solely focused on SK/vig

Just remember I actively lead town to each lynch.. It was by no means an easy win, I don't think if sno/zare delurked over the weekend I would have been high for suspicion and I still had war baby I could push.

You guys had it a lot easier than you could have though. So much lurk.
Also I was convinced Sev was scum and was going to tunnel the shit out of him until I could get enough to prove it 100%, but then SK took care of me for you guys.

In any case I think I have some of how the game (and maybe player meta) works now so I'm going to try signing up for any game that'll take me.
I'm HOOKED, gentlemen.

Edit: Also, just remembered something. What was the deal with the Sylencia RB?

Disagree completely.
Sevryn and at stages mandalor were on the block MASSIVELY at many stages especially due to lurking.

Town was all over them.

Sylencia didn't fall my accident. Town voted him based on defends... But the only reason he had to make a defends was primarily due to my pressure

SK was hunting scum n1 and could a taken out anyone. Agree on before he basically became a vig.


Just remember its easy to sit in at and say u have insurmountable evidence. That doesn't mean u can campaign a vote.
I did not play a perfect game by any means. And yes. The overall lurking worked in my favour.
But u guys gotta be honest with yourselves with this one. On day3 u had 2 out of 3 scum on the block and in my opinion there were many reasons to call sylencia town.

I didn't force everyone to vote sylencia....

I wasn't around on D2, never mind D3. I saw the voting AND conversation being swayed away from Sevryn constantly. Can't say the same about Mandalor but whatever. In any case, all of this is hindsight, Mocsta, so don't look too much into it. Either way I will say this much: you played extremely well and I do not look forward to having to play against you at any point in the future.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 19 2013 20:57 GMT
#1652
On February 20 2013 05:48 Mocsta wrote:
P.s. sevryn was due to be lynched day1

Until I setup glurio.

U were there WoS.

The major thing in this game is (mainly for war baby) is
Priorities are:
Establish innocence
2. Scum hunt
3. Be pro town

Many of my contributions were 3. Aligned and its really easy to fake.. I don't believe I made a case the whole game. (Other than writing sevryns lol)great pick up their Sn0

Glurio set himself up; his play was scummy as hell, but yes, you're right, my biggest mistake was pussing out Day 1 and not changing my vote to Sevryn earlier.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 19 2013 21:06 GMT
#1657
On February 20 2013 05:59 Mocsta wrote:
Heheh

Well newbies games are for sweingnwhat works what doesn't

Hopefully this explains why policy lurker lynch sucks

Its just a medium for enabling discussion but shouldn't replace scum hunting

I disagree. If we had stayed on track with it (and consolidated our votes instead of being idiots) we had something like a 1/3 chances of picking scum. It just sucked because half of the game lurked D1, and then different people lurked throughout the rest.

I see nothing wrong with a policy lurker lynch; this game just goes to further prove that scum will ALWAYS have lurkers.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 20 2013 00:06 GMT
#1689
On February 20 2013 08:55 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 08:24 marvellosity wrote:
too many players in this post-game blaming town's failure on others and not themselves.


Meh. I don't really care what you think, if the obs QT has their leading scum candidate at MYLO as our only remaining blue role and for most of the game (although not at the very end) I'm the only person on every town list around then I'm content with my play. I know I'm not the best at discerning who is scum, but If I can prove myself town early and have stuff to work with I feel like my contribution to town is acceptable. Could I have played better Day 3? duh... but it wouldn't change anything barring super scumhunting techniques that I simply don't possess.

Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 08:27 marvellosity wrote:
On February 20 2013 04:48 Sn0_Man wrote:
On February 20 2013 04:41 thrawn2112 wrote:
if you're trying to suggest that mafia didn't deserve the win, or that you yourself are above how you've generalized all of town's play then you're quite wrong

i could feel your rage after the silly D1 lynch and thought you were town because of it, but with your "this town is terrible" attitude you put on for the rest of the game you were definitely contributing to the negative town atmosphere


I didn't see a way to make town play decently, so I got super lazy. I'm aware this isn't good town play. I still don't see a way I could have won the game (esp. not with this setup). I'm honestly not bitter about losing anymore, (although I was sour for a bit), but I'm curious as to real suggestions as to how I could have pursued a victory as well as some thoughts as to how town in general can hope to ever win in a 9-3-1 setup.


Rock Band, where SK shot at town every night he was alive.


Wherein you had a knowable setup and wildly better roles in general as town. Plus town clearly played well and nailed scum non-stop, including getting the RB N2.

Contrasted with a newbie setup which was not deducible, which had substantially weaker roles, and which had 2 replacements after night 1. In which you have such quality plays as voting for a clearly unlynchable 0-vote lurker as town because you don't want to look scummy.

I will cede the point that you did, in fact, win a town game with 9-3-1 though.

Please, Sn0, tell me how you really feel. Newbie games exist for a reason, bro.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 21 2013 05:24 GMT
#1802

On February 21 2013 12:02 warbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 11:52 Mocsta wrote:
If you think nobody is doing anything to stop me; its not because they think I am scum and waiting for me to slip.
Its because I have established sufficient innocence to fall down the threat priority list.
corazon had no problem constant issues in your play D1, because your innocence was NOT established. My "free ride" had nothing to do with being unintentionally ignored. I was ignored, because I was considered innocent enough.


You did not establish your innocence, you established your dominance over the only other active town (Corazon). There's a big difference between appearing innocent (which you did not, at one point 66% of the active towns were after you as scum) and dominating the game because you have 1 actual opponent (after TS died).

e: well, more like zero opponents, since I had given up on trying to hunt you after TS died, which I already admitted was the biggest mistake I think I made in this game. I didn't have a town read on you, I just didn't think there was any point in pursuing you when Cora and your lurker buddy would just burn me down for trying to do so (again, my fault for just giving up).


Wait how were Mocsta and Cora the only active townies?
Man, I really wish I didn't get killed N1. Everybody forgot about me and I didn't contribute anything but shit play.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 21 2013 05:28 GMT
#1806
On February 21 2013 14:26 warbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 14:24 WaveofShadow wrote:

On February 21 2013 12:02 warbaby wrote:
On February 21 2013 11:52 Mocsta wrote:
If you think nobody is doing anything to stop me; its not because they think I am scum and waiting for me to slip.
Its because I have established sufficient innocence to fall down the threat priority list.
corazon had no problem constant issues in your play D1, because your innocence was NOT established. My "free ride" had nothing to do with being unintentionally ignored. I was ignored, because I was considered innocent enough.


You did not establish your innocence, you established your dominance over the only other active town (Corazon). There's a big difference between appearing innocent (which you did not, at one point 66% of the active towns were after you as scum) and dominating the game because you have 1 actual opponent (after TS died).

e: well, more like zero opponents, since I had given up on trying to hunt you after TS died, which I already admitted was the biggest mistake I think I made in this game. I didn't have a town read on you, I just didn't think there was any point in pursuing you when Cora and your lurker buddy would just burn me down for trying to do so (again, my fault for just giving up).


Wait how were Mocsta and Cora the only active townies?
Man, I really wish I didn't get killed N1. Everybody forgot about me and I didn't contribute anything but shit play.


I was talking about active players the context of N2 and D3. I really wish Mocsta had not been smart enough to shoot you N1.

It wasn't Mocsta, it was OO, damn him. In any case, look forward to playing with you guys in the next one!
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 21 2013 18:21 GMT
#1815
On February 22 2013 02:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hey warbaby! I don't give a fuck if you don't think Mocsta's nomination is warranted! It's MY subjective opinion (which may or may not even be valid due to his playing more games or whatever) and if you don't like it DON'T FUCKING VOTE FOR HIM IN EIGHT OR WHATEVER MONTHS! What are you trying to accomplish coming in here and saying "You're not as impressive as you seem to think" exactly anyway? What's the POINT? Get the fuck over it, you lost.

I tried to be fucking nice.

I loled just a little. It appears buttons have been pressed,
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 21 2013 18:48 GMT
#1820
On February 22 2013 03:26 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 03:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 22 2013 02:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hey warbaby! I don't give a fuck if you don't think Mocsta's nomination is warranted! It's MY subjective opinion (which may or may not even be valid due to his playing more games or whatever) and if you don't like it DON'T FUCKING VOTE FOR HIM IN EIGHT OR WHATEVER MONTHS! What are you trying to accomplish coming in here and saying "You're not as impressive as you seem to think" exactly anyway? What's the POINT? Get the fuck over it, you lost.

I tried to be fucking nice.

I loled just a little. It appears buttons have been pressed,


Town has collectively bitched incessantly about everything in the game without any person reasonably taking blame upon themselves except zare (who seriously deserves a lot less than most other players).

I'm not sure that that indicates much learning, which is kinda the goal of Newbie games no? (Okay hilarity is another goal).

Lol dude, I apologized for my shit play during the game, but whatever floats your boat, man. I have no doubt that this game is town's fault, and as I was a part of it, my fault too. I just wish I had longer in the game itself to start correcting my play. Done posting in here; time to move on.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
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