On February 13 2013 08:52 glurio wrote:
Europe here, it's nearly 1am.
When exactly is the lynch? In one hour or two?
Europe here, it's nearly 1am.
When exactly is the lynch? In one hour or two?
1hr
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Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
On February 13 2013 08:52 glurio wrote: Europe here, it's nearly 1am. When exactly is the lynch? In one hour or two? 1hr | ||
Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On February 13 2013 08:53 WaveofShadow wrote: Show nested quote + On February 13 2013 08:50 cDgCorazon wrote: On February 13 2013 08:47 geript wrote: Point out what you'd like. I haven't made a case against many people; neither, iirc, have I weighed in on 0 post non-participant vs low count lurker. Those facts are hardly relevant. I'd point out that no one has really made a case against you at all. As far as I see it, your agenda has been to make the town atmosphere negative. Yes, it takes two to get into a flame war and I'm not giving war baby any credit avoiding those spats either. In the least Mocsta has shown that he's willing to listen, even though I think his vote for me is weak at best. You on the other hand have tunnel visioned on your target of the moment at each point. Scum hunting is fine and being aggressive is fine. But the belligerent tone you've taken at many points, especially over exceptionally minor things, isn't beneficial to the town. Rather, it seems to me like you want everyone to spend their time scrutinizing your target so that they avoid you entirely. Your "We haven't gotten scum day 1 lynching lurkers, so lets try a new tack" comment from a while back (would quote but still on phone) keeps on sounding like "Let's lynch a loud voice" to me. In my experience the louder voices are almost always town; I even think one of the guides says something similar. Now you're going to ask why I'm not voting for you (likely), but I still think that you're misguided right now and not an active dissident. So my vote remains in place for right now. Please explain to me why being aggressive is scummy. If we're going to keep thinking that all "loud voices" are town, at least one scum is going to slip by for a long time. Take a look at my scum play from NMM XXXIII. Why do you think I got away with being scum for so long? Because I was active and looking pro-town. If we take out a scum with a "loud voice" now, our chances of winning go way up. Speaking of loud voices, you were SO adamant for so long on WB lynch now that's it's close to lynch time you unvote? What is your rationale? Cause it's obvious no one is going to vote with me. Sometimes, one's agenda needs to be pushed back to benefit the group as a whole. I didn't back down before because I wasn't sure how the votes were going to be consolidated. Since it's obvious town does not want to try something different for D1, it looks like it's not going to be WB. | ||
Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
On February 13 2013 08:50 cDgCorazon wrote: Take a look at my scum play from NMM XXXIII. Why do you think I got away with being scum for so long? Because I was active and looking pro-town. Disagree. You got HEAPZ of town cred because Spag was mislynched sticking up for you. Made everyone auto-assume you were town. You maintained the town cred by being involved in discussion; but IIRC you didnt step on toes or push your own agenda =>> active blendy | ||
zarepath
United States1626 Posts
Sevryn, glurio, warbaby, Mandalor, Sylencia I checked Sevryn's filter and I don't see him as scummy -- he really stuck to his guns with glurio and went out of his way to flush a lurker (Mandalor). The scummiest thing, IMO, was his reaction to my fake case, but he did bring some new insight to it, at least. Glurio is the only person who has cared much about Sn0, and he's gone back to it a couple times. the scummiest thing about glurio is the fact that he has presented two contradictory reasons as to why he made the case (at least how I read him): 1, because he was told to (people telling him to make cases) even though he knew it wasn't the best case, and 2, he knew it was a bad case but wanted to catch scum agreeing with it. THAT sounds weird (although that's exactly what I did). He also pressured Mandalor, and tried to call attention off of Warbaby in what seemed like a pro-town way. glurio is null-scum to me. Warbaby I didn't have time to read his whole filter. His leap onto my case was pretty suspect, and while he has been super defensive about his alignment, he hasn't scum hunted at ALL, at least that I can tell. But I haven't time right now to do a real check and will go with Sn0 on this one and give him another day. Mandalor has not done anything particularly town-oriented that I can see and I have to go now ##Vote Mandalor | ||
glurio
Germany597 Posts
On February 13 2013 08:54 Mocsta wrote: Show nested quote + On February 13 2013 08:51 glurio wrote: I'm back, with the current events i'd much rather vote for Mandalor then for sevryn. Mandalor kinda just hopped on syls wagon, while sevryn at least had the guts to vote for someone who didn't have a vote so far and wasn't really in the spotlight. That's something i wouldn't expect from scum. WTF is this shit.. you come in here and just re-quote things I have been saying Show nested quote + On February 12 2013 14:41 Mocsta wrote: Heck even sevryn had the balls to bust in over the top of you guys and give an opinion. You're really starting making me want to join the lurker lynch with shit like that. Please address the below Show nested quote + On February 13 2013 08:05 Mocsta wrote: On February 13 2013 06:21 glurio wrote: I'd prefer lynching one of the lurkier players, sevryn, syl or mandalor right now. Glurio Please detail why YOUR contributions are better than the three people listed above. I am shocked that you would turn your back on your own kind; because as far as I am concerned: YOU are a lurker, which is what I believe you are nominating the above three for. *ironic* is it not? Where have you said what i said? With all the crap you posted sorry i missed a single line, which might remotely mean kinda a little bit the same like what i said but less elaborate and easier to miss. I know my alignement, don't know theres, i'm town. Mandalor always talked about lurker lunch etc. but hardly contributed a thing. Sev at least tried to make a shitty case on me. Syl i couldn't find anything too scummy in his iso and hes getting active so i want to let him live for now. | ||
Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On February 13 2013 08:58 Mocsta wrote: Show nested quote + On February 13 2013 08:50 cDgCorazon wrote: Take a look at my scum play from NMM XXXIII. Why do you think I got away with being scum for so long? Because I was active and looking pro-town. Disagree. You got HEAPZ of town cred because Spag was mislynched sticking up for you. Made everyone auto-assume you were town. You maintained the town cred by being involved in discussion; but IIRC you didnt step on toes or push your own agenda =>> active blendy Alright we can talk about this later. Anyways, my vote is for _______. They haven't done much scumhunting, they've lurked for most of the game, and as the evidence shows, there's always a lurker scum. Who I'm filling in the blank with is still up in the air. I'm looking at either Glurio, Mandalor, or Geript. | ||
warbaby
United States510 Posts
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
Sylencia (2): warbaby, Mandalor WaveofShadow (1): geript Macheji (1): WaveofShadow geript (1): Mocsta glurio (1): Sevryn Sevryn (1): Sn0_Man Mandalor (1): zarepath Not Voting (5): 9-BiT, Macheji, glurio, Sylencia, cDgCorazon Currently, Sylencia is set to be lynched! ~1 hour remaining until deadline. Remember you have to vote! | ||
Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Time to re-read mandalor's filter to see if I can vote him in good conscience | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On February 13 2013 09:05 Sn0_Man wrote: Wow that count vote looks sad Time to re-read mandalor's filter to see if I can vote him in good conscience I can't, and something seems off to me about Zare's analysis. I need to re-read. | ||
glurio
Germany597 Posts
On February 13 2013 09:02 zarepath wrote: I'm short on time and, unfortunately, as thorough an analysis as I'd hoped. I will be voting for one of the following: Sevryn, glurio, warbaby, Mandalor, Sylencia I checked Sevryn's filter and I don't see him as scummy -- he really stuck to his guns with glurio and went out of his way to flush a lurker (Mandalor). The scummiest thing, IMO, was his reaction to my fake case, but he did bring some new insight to it, at least. Glurio is the only person who has cared much about Sn0, and he's gone back to it a couple times. the scummiest thing about glurio is the fact that he has presented two contradictory reasons as to why he made the case (at least how I read him): 1, because he was told to (people telling him to make cases) even though he knew it wasn't the best case, and 2, he knew it was a bad case but wanted to catch scum agreeing with it. THAT sounds weird (although that's exactly what I did). He also pressured Mandalor, and tried to call attention off of Warbaby in what seemed like a pro-town way. glurio is null-scum to me. Warbaby I didn't have time to read his whole filter. His leap onto my case was pretty suspect, and while he has been super defensive about his alignment, he hasn't scum hunted at ALL, at least that I can tell. But I haven't time right now to do a real check and will go with Sn0 on this one and give him another day. Mandalor has not done anything particularly town-oriented that I can see and I have to go now ##Vote Mandalor No one told me to make a case, i wanted to contribute because at that moment, the post where i wrote i'll write something on sn0 i actually thought he was scum. I tried to make a decent case but really couldn't find enough evidence, so all i made is this crappy postcount/lurkerposts thing looking to see if people actually hop onto it or see through it. | ||
Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
On February 13 2013 09:02 zarepath wrote: I'm short on time and, unfortunately, as thorough an analysis as I'd hoped. I will be voting for one of the following: Sevryn, glurio, warbaby, Mandalor, Sylencia Out of that list my order is (most scummy @ top) warbaby glurio mandalor sylencia/sevryn corazon couldnt get traction on warbaby, so i wont bother going there glurio has just been a slippery "tough mudler" all game. Why are you treating it as "town aligned" that he built a case because he was asked. If anything, thats NULL at best, scummy at worst. Then he claims he built bullshit case to flush out scum; yet, this only came into light after zarepath expressed the same thing. corazon hit it on the nail; zarepath breadcrumbed, glurio didnt. Again, NULL at best, scummy at worst. Then he makes a list of lurkers for vote, and conveniently takes himself off the list as if his contributions have been pro-town; this reeks of scum trying to cling onto what ever wagon is taking off and not giving a two shits on who the vote is for This is scummy at BEST, really scummy at worst. Depending on how Glurio answers my question I addressed to him, I am seriously considering swapping my vote from Geript to him. | ||
Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On February 13 2013 09:06 WaveofShadow wrote: Show nested quote + On February 13 2013 09:05 Sn0_Man wrote: Wow that count vote looks sad Time to re-read mandalor's filter to see if I can vote him in good conscience I can't, and something seems off to me about Zare's analysis. I need to re-read. Yeah Mandalor has way more townie points than the others in my book :/ Short filter to read through though. I don't think I can vote Mandalor. | ||
warbaby
United States510 Posts
Sylencia is still not contributing, but I think sevryn is really, really close. I'd be more comfortable voting sevryn than Mandalor. | ||
geript
10024 Posts
Filtering now. And yes, WoS I saw your post but am finally home. | ||
Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
basically said.. his contributions are better than the other lurkers because On February 13 2013 09:02 glurio wrote: I know my alignement, don't know theres, i'm town. ##Unvote ##Vote: Glurio Even bad town are trying to contribute, its just they dont know how to do it effectively. (Look at WoS) That you can not even discriminate between your contributions and others, suggests you're not even trying. Guess what, thats scummy as. | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On February 13 2013 09:02 zarepath wrote: I'm short on time and, unfortunately, as thorough an analysis as I'd hoped. I will be voting for one of the following: Sevryn, glurio, warbaby, Mandalor, Sylencia I checked Sevryn's filter and I don't see him as scummy -- he really stuck to his guns with glurio and went out of his way to flush a lurker (Mandalor). The scummiest thing, IMO, was his reaction to my fake case, but he did bring some new insight to it, at least. Less than a page of filter isn't scummy? Here's his one-post 'flush' of Mandalor. Really accomplished a whole lot considering trying to flush lurkers is all Mocsta and I have been doing. On February 12 2013 13:10 Sevryn wrote: Also I would like to see some more posts from the inactive people specifically Mandalor who made one anti lurker post and also made a pretty bandwagony FOS on WoS while he has made a few posts they dont really say much or bring anything new to the table which is a great way for scum to appear helpful. And this is his half-post 'insight' into the case on me: @ zare Thats a very interesting case you made. I think you over looked the fourth post a little bit in that the way it was worded is basically setting up WoS to defend any lurker he doesn't want lynched and any lurker he does want lynched with a line of qualitative additions which could be interpreted any which way. Um, hell yeah I'm going to cotton-pick my lurker lynch target. What's the point of voting otherwise? I dunno, real weak case to me. Glurio is the only person who has cared much about Sn0, and he's gone back to it a couple times. the scummiest thing about glurio is the fact that he has presented two contradictory reasons as to why he made the case (at least how I read him): 1, because he was told to (people telling him to make cases) even though he knew it wasn't the best case, and 2, he knew it was a bad case but wanted to catch scum agreeing with it. This makes sense and is in line with what I've said in the past, but it's a REAL easy case to make....Zare's MO? Pick on the easy cases? THAT sounds weird (although that's exactly what I did). He also pressured Mandalor, and tried to call attention off of Warbaby in what seemed like a pro-town way. glurio is null-scum to me. But see here's the thing. That's NOT exactly what you did, Zare. Your case was not a bad case on me at all, it was just easy to make and you happened to be the first one to pick it out. And then you left the town to its workings. Trying to compare yourself to glurio who has no capability it seems of making any real case at all is very suspect. Warbaby I didn't have time to read his whole filter. His leap onto my case was pretty suspect, and while he has been super defensive about his alignment, he hasn't scum hunted at ALL, at least that I can tell. But I haven't time right now to do a real check and will go with Sn0 on this one and give him another day. Mandalor has not done anything particularly town-oriented that I can see and I have to go now ##Vote Mandalor That's it? There's a lot of people who haven't done anything real town-oriented, you just have to take a little time and look at basically every lurker in the game right now. FoS: Zarepath | ||
Sylencia
Australia1057 Posts
On February 13 2013 08:52 Mocsta wrote: Sylencia I just checked your filter and noticed your recent posts are defensive (perhaps due to pressure you) What I need from you to determine alignment is not a defense; but to see you scum hunt. I could not find a vote in your filter.Please indicate who your top scum read, and dot point why. I've only checked a few filters unfortunately (bad play by me) but from those I've checked I'm going to still stick with my suspicion on Warbaby. I've tunneled on him a little bit too much though... - Firstly, I didn't read what happened in NMM36 - so I don't know what happened there though you guys seem to have pretty much filled me in on it anyways. - I did my analysis on him, and it feels like he's been aggressively trying to get me killed following it. There are other reasons he has given (lurker) but as Corazon has mentioned, there are a bunch of lurkers in this game and it is like I'm the target because I'm the one in that bunch who has targetted him. - Rather than vote for a player he considers to be scummy, he decides to simply follow a LAL policy - so either he's not willing to vote for the people he finds suspicious or he's not scum hunting but policy killing, and not scum hunting is exactly what he is accusing me of too. | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On February 13 2013 09:12 geript wrote: @Sn0 was talking about Cora. Filtering now. And yes, WoS I saw your post but am finally home. It's ok Geript you appear to have dodged the bullet today. Big martyr. | ||
Corazon
United States3230 Posts
It's a hard decision for me to make (because there is nothing to choose from between the two). I'm guessing Mandalor's vote is just him not thinking. Lynching Glurio would go a long way in either proving or disproving my case towards WB. His town claim is even stupider than WB's as well. There's not much else to say. ##Vote: Glurio | ||
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