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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
February 12 2013 23:12 GMT
#761
On February 12 2013 14:38 cDgCorazon wrote:
Alright, since it's obvious no one is going to look at my filter, here are the reasons that I've already stated why I think WB is scum:

-Claiming town way too hard
-Playing victim from XXXVI
-No actual scumhunting
-Asking Mocsta to stop pressuring him
-

-Sheeping on everything that comes his way
-Hiding in the shadows after the pressure died down on him
-Saying we should vote for Sylencia because he's lurking and playing similar to the game he played scum in
(when in fact Glurio has exhibited the same behavior and multiple people have been lurking)


Everything in bold, I feel like he has continued to exhibit the behavior or has not adequately answered. Everything below the line is in my second case


Warbaby. These are the reasons I'm voting for you.
You're not reading my filter. You're not taking the time to give me full answers, just OMGUSing and making emotional responses.
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 12 2013 23:14 GMT
#762
Well i havent been paying too much attention to the lurkers

but I thought sevryn having the balls to come in and say "hey, listen to my case" was a town thing to do?

wouldnt lurker scum be content hiding in the shadows?

I will read the filters, see if I can find something dodgy; but thats all i remember of sevryn.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 12 2013 23:15 GMT
#763
On February 13 2013 08:07 warbaby wrote:
WaveofShadow claimed town as well:

Show nested quote +
On February 11 2013 13:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
obviously the Day is still young but I expect more from my Town as the day progresses.


Dude, we were all over that at the start of the thread too...

Theres no special treatment for you
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 12 2013 23:15 GMT
#764
Re-quote because buried

On February 13 2013 08:07 Mocsta wrote:
Guys; the vote count is seriously split

This is my idea for the situation

Some camps want a lurker; others want the scummiest person

I recommend we have 2 lynch candidates
i.e. 1 agreed representative for the lurkers
1 agreed representative for the actives

I hope this will help to consolidate votes

Thoughts?

Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
February 12 2013 23:17 GMT
#765
On February 13 2013 08:07 Mocsta wrote:
Guys; the vote count is seriously split

This is my idea for the situation

Some camps want a lurker; others want the scummiest person

I recommend we have 2 lynch candidates
i.e. 1 agreed representative for the lurkers
1 agreed representative for the actives

I hope this will help to consolidate votes

Thoughts?


It's a really optomistic thought. We're so split up on the votes right now I doubt it's going to happen.

@Sn0 I meant town improving as a whole on D1 (as opposed to the Ska lynch last game).
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 12 2013 23:17 GMT
#766
Sn0_Man

my thoughts on Glurio Not much, but seems to be a hypocrite taking the easy options all the time.

I sticking to Geript regardless.

On February 13 2013 08:05 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 06:21 glurio wrote:
I'd prefer lynching one of the lurkier players, sevryn, syl or mandalor right now.

Glurio

Please detail why YOUR contributions are better than the three people listed above.

I am shocked that you would turn your back on your own kind; because as far as I am concerned:

YOU are a lurker, which is what I believe you are nominating the above three for.

*ironic* is it not?

warbaby
Profile Joined May 2011
United States510 Posts
February 12 2013 23:19 GMT
#767
On February 13 2013 08:15 Mocsta wrote:
Re-quote because buried

Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 08:07 Mocsta wrote:
Guys; the vote count is seriously split

This is my idea for the situation

Some camps want a lurker; others want the scummiest person

I recommend we have 2 lynch candidates
i.e. 1 agreed representative for the lurkers
1 agreed representative for the actives

I hope this will help to consolidate votes

Thoughts?



I reject any active players as candidates today. It just doesn't make sense to lynch someone D1 who is trying to contribute to town.

I've already given my two LAL candidates, repeatedly:

sylvencia: his last post does not de-lurk him IMO, it added nothing to the discussion that hasn't already been said. I'm not OMGUS'ing him, I just think he's still effectively lurking.
sevryn: I don't see a lot of value to his posts, his case on glurio makes no sense to me. he has been a little more consistent about going after glurio, and is trying to make novel contributions, so he's #2 for my LAL candidate.

If you want a #3: Mandalor. Not very far behind sevryn.
It puts the GG in the basket. It does this whenever it's told or else it gets the Mutalisks again.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 12 2013 23:19 GMT
#768
On February 13 2013 08:12 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 14:38 cDgCorazon wrote:
Alright, since it's obvious no one is going to look at my filter, here are the reasons that I've already stated why I think WB is scum:

-Claiming town way too hard
-Playing victim from XXXVI
-No actual scumhunting
-Asking Mocsta to stop pressuring him
-

-Sheeping on everything that comes his way
-Hiding in the shadows after the pressure died down on him
-Saying we should vote for Sylencia because he's lurking and playing similar to the game he played scum in
(when in fact Glurio has exhibited the same behavior and multiple people have been lurking)


Everything in bold, I feel like he has continued to exhibit the behavior or has not adequately answered. Everything below the line is in my second case


Warbaby. These are the reasons I'm voting for you.
You're not reading my filter. You're not taking the time to give me full answers, just OMGUSing and making emotional responses.


There are others who post less who have also contributed no actual scumhunting
The "why don't we both stop posting for a bit" post seems quite reasonable to me. The thread was being clouded with a ton of irrelevant yammer.
The fact that warbaby has echoed others is lamentable but not unique. Sometimes you agree with a case that is presented.
The fact that he wishes to vote for Sylencia is also not unreasonable. In fact, it could be construed as scumhunting. It isn't like Sylencia is a WORSE target than many other lurkers.

None of what I say makes any claim to "prove" WB as town, but it gives reasonable doubt to his scumminess (IMO). As such, I still request that we lynch somebody with extremely low post-count and contributions. I feel like you are tunnelling really hard for no reason cora. I'm still willing to look at a WB lynch for sure, BUT NOT TODAY.
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 12 2013 23:22 GMT
#769
On February 13 2013 08:19 warbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 08:15 Mocsta wrote:
Re-quote because buried

On February 13 2013 08:07 Mocsta wrote:
Guys; the vote count is seriously split

This is my idea for the situation

Some camps want a lurker; others want the scummiest person

I recommend we have 2 lynch candidates
i.e. 1 agreed representative for the lurkers
1 agreed representative for the actives

I hope this will help to consolidate votes

Thoughts?



I reject any active players as candidates today. It just doesn't make sense to lynch someone D1 who is trying to contribute to town.

I've already given my two LAL candidates, repeatedly:

sylvencia: his last post does not de-lurk him IMO, it added nothing to the discussion that hasn't already been said. I'm not OMGUS'ing him, I just think he's still effectively lurking.
sevryn: I don't see a lot of value to his posts, his case on glurio makes no sense to me. he has been a little more consistent about going after glurio, and is trying to make novel contributions, so he's #2 for my LAL candidate.

If you want a #3: Mandalor. Not very far behind sevryn.

Sorry warbaby but in my opinion "your thoughts are compromised" on this subject.

Because you are one of the actives that could be a candidate; and Geript is on your side as the other active

hence, your motives are gonig to be to save your ass ==> vote lurkers.

*sorry to be harsh.. im not intending it to come across as a prick*
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 12 2013 23:23 GMT
#770
On February 13 2013 08:19 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 08:12 cDgCorazon wrote:
On February 12 2013 14:38 cDgCorazon wrote:
Alright, since it's obvious no one is going to look at my filter, here are the reasons that I've already stated why I think WB is scum:

-Claiming town way too hard
-Playing victim from XXXVI
-No actual scumhunting
-Asking Mocsta to stop pressuring him
-

-Sheeping on everything that comes his way
-Hiding in the shadows after the pressure died down on him
-Saying we should vote for Sylencia because he's lurking and playing similar to the game he played scum in
(when in fact Glurio has exhibited the same behavior and multiple people have been lurking)


Everything in bold, I feel like he has continued to exhibit the behavior or has not adequately answered. Everything below the line is in my second case


Warbaby. These are the reasons I'm voting for you.
You're not reading my filter. You're not taking the time to give me full answers, just OMGUSing and making emotional responses.


There are others who post less who have also contributed no actual scumhunting
The "why don't we both stop posting for a bit" post seems quite reasonable to me. The thread was being clouded with a ton of irrelevant yammer.
The fact that warbaby has echoed others is lamentable but not unique. Sometimes you agree with a case that is presented.
The fact that he wishes to vote for Sylencia is also not unreasonable. In fact, it could be construed as scumhunting. It isn't like Sylencia is a WORSE target than many other lurkers.

None of what I say makes any claim to "prove" WB as town, but it gives reasonable doubt to his scumminess (IMO). As such, I still request that we lynch somebody with extremely low post-count and contributions. I feel like you are tunnelling really hard for no reason cora. I'm still willing to look at a WB lynch for sure, BUT NOT TODAY.

Echoes my sentiments on this exactly. I'm liking how you and I are on the same page about other things, Sn0, including scum candidates.

Can we get another 'Count Vote?' We've got barely over an hour and a half and there are so many people who have not voted still...before the final hour begins I'd really like to hope we have an idea as to who is getting lynched.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
February 12 2013 23:25 GMT
#771
Fine. I'll back down.

##unvote

In the effort of choosing who to vote for, I'd like to point out that WB, Geript, and Glurio have not made any strong arguments against each other (and WB/Geript have explicitly said they don't think the other is scum/is town).
Grubby's #1 Fan
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
February 12 2013 23:26 GMT
#772
Alright, I'm gonna have to go to bed. My vote will go to Sylencia.
I could have sworn the OP said deadline would be 2 hours earlier when I signed up, but now I won't be able to be here at deadline.at least some of the days.
It's not news to me to be suspected early (or the entire game really), but I hoooope that this time I'm not gonna die in my sleep, again.

My reasons for the vote in short:
*lurking
*no reads at all (except his read on warbaby being scum/vig)
*useless (imo, apparently others can find a reason I suppose) bantering about possible roles

Other than Syl, warbaby started to look a little weird to me. Maybe it's just him suspecting me a little, but:
After I wrote some stuff on Sylencia, he comes up with a short "case" on Syl and later calls my opinion on Syl "not exactly breaking news". Funny, considering Syl has been his only read for a loooong time now and he was very late to the party.
But I'm unsure about WB (and apparently I completely missed the soft claim so many seem to see) and I'd rather go for an uncharacteristically quiet player for now.

##Vote: Sylencia
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 12 2013 23:27 GMT
#773
On February 13 2013 08:19 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 08:12 cDgCorazon wrote:
On February 12 2013 14:38 cDgCorazon wrote:
Alright, since it's obvious no one is going to look at my filter, here are the reasons that I've already stated why I think WB is scum:

-Claiming town way too hard
-Playing victim from XXXVI
-No actual scumhunting
-Asking Mocsta to stop pressuring him
-

-Sheeping on everything that comes his way
-Hiding in the shadows after the pressure died down on him
-Saying we should vote for Sylencia because he's lurking and playing similar to the game he played scum in
(when in fact Glurio has exhibited the same behavior and multiple people have been lurking)


Everything in bold, I feel like he has continued to exhibit the behavior or has not adequately answered. Everything below the line is in my second case


Warbaby. These are the reasons I'm voting for you.
You're not reading my filter. You're not taking the time to give me full answers, just OMGUSing and making emotional responses.


There are others who post less who have also contributed no actual scumhunting
The "why don't we both stop posting for a bit" post seems quite reasonable to me. The thread was being clouded with a ton of irrelevant yammer.
The fact that warbaby has echoed others is lamentable but not unique. Sometimes you agree with a case that is presented.
The fact that he wishes to vote for Sylencia is also not unreasonable. In fact, it could be construed as scumhunting. It isn't like Sylencia is a WORSE target than many other lurkers.

None of what I say makes any claim to "prove" WB as town, but it gives reasonable doubt to his scumminess (IMO). As such, I still request that we lynch somebody with extremely low post-count and contributions. I feel like you are tunnelling really hard for no reason cora. I'm still willing to look at a WB lynch for sure, BUT NOT TODAY.


Mr Sno_Man;

i said this at the start of the game (I think).. and I think now is an opportune time to say it again.

Policy Lynch is never meant to occur (even town lying can be acceptable at times - e.g. "Are you JK".. Why of course not.. (lie)

Lynch all Lurkers is a concept designed to promote discussion and force activity. It is never meant to be followed through with. Think about the consequence.
(1) Lynch a scum - great of course.. but thats all the information you are left with; there is no linkage, and Day2 becomes a repeated Day1 (with perhpas more focus due to having more town reads)

(2) Lynch a town - completely fucked; again no information due to no linkage, and now Day2 is a high pressure situation



You are always meant to lynch the person with the HIGHEST chance to flip scum. Now whether this is an active or lurker is THE question.

Are you telling me; that in the filters of your top two (Sylencia and Sevryn) you can ONLY see scum motivations for the actions? If so, vote them; otherwise I think the risk is too much to gamble with.

Also, for some WIFOM (sorry).. but; if from the get-go, several have been advocating to lynch lurkers vehemently; do you not think then that scum may actaully have decided to go active blendy; instead of lurker blendy?
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
February 12 2013 23:28 GMT
#774
On February 13 2013 08:26 Mandalor wrote:
Alright, I'm gonna have to go to bed. My vote will go to Sylencia.
I could have sworn the OP said deadline would be 2 hours earlier when I signed up, but now I won't be able to be here at deadline.at least some of the days.
It's not news to me to be suspected early (or the entire game really), but I hoooope that this time I'm not gonna die in my sleep, again.

My reasons for the vote in short:
*lurking
*no reads at all (except his read on warbaby being scum/vig)
*useless (imo, apparently others can find a reason I suppose) bantering about possible roles

Other than Syl, warbaby started to look a little weird to me. Maybe it's just him suspecting me a little, but:
After I wrote some stuff on Sylencia, he comes up with a short "case" on Syl and later calls my opinion on Syl "not exactly breaking news". Funny, considering Syl has been his only read for a loooong time now and he was very late to the party.
But I'm unsure about WB (and apparently I completely missed the soft claim so many seem to see) and I'd rather go for an uncharacteristically quiet player for now.

##Vote: Sylencia


This makes no sense. Why are you voting with the person you are suspicious of?
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 12 2013 23:29 GMT
#775
Personally, I think that your vote on geript looks dumb moc. I've already stated this but cmon. He legitimately dislikes you due at least in part to your play so far. He makes a case on you that I really don't think is illegitimate, although I think you are town (the case isn't retarded, although it isn't strong either). The fact that you already have him and warbaby as a scumteam rings alarm bells to me because you should know that association cases day 1 pre-flip are NUTSO BAD.

As such, I request that you MOVE your vote to something that town can agree upon. If you think that sevryn is not scum, and would prefer to lynch glurio (OR SOME OTHER REAL CANDIDATE WITH REASONS) let me know.

Thx.
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Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
February 12 2013 23:30 GMT
#776
Because there's still two hours left for him to change his vote and I can't?
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
February 12 2013 23:30 GMT
#777
[image loading] Count Vote:

Sylencia (2): warbaby, Mandalor
WaveofShadow (1): geript
Macheji (1): WaveofShadow
geript (1): Mocsta
glurio (1): Sevryn
Sevryn (1): Sn0_Man

Not Voting (6): 9-BiT, Macheji, glurio, Sylencia, zarepath, cDgCorazon


Currently, Sylencia is set to be lynched!
~1.5 hours remaining until deadline.
Remember you have to vote!
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
February 12 2013 23:31 GMT
#778
On February 13 2013 08:30 Mandalor wrote:
Because there's still two hours left for him to change his vote and I can't?


Why are you expecting him to change his vote?

In my opinion, WB is kind of locked into Sylencia because it's the only person he has really targeted...
Grubby's #1 Fan
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 12 2013 23:32 GMT
#779
@moc Okay our posts are flip flopping and answering the others older posts not their most current lol.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 12 2013 23:36 GMT
#780
Either way, if you want to lynch "blendy active" then lynch WoS imo.

Buuuuut I really would rather lynch lurkers. They have equal or greater chance of being scum anyway.
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