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Sylencia
Australia1057 Posts
- The fact I'm quiet is apparently like the way I played when I was scum (wrong when you compare it to my other games, I was a bit more active during that game but still rather quiet in comparison to the number of players ) - The fact I'm quiet is uncharacteristic (also wrong, look at NMM32/33) The points are kind of contradictory though... | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On February 13 2013 08:29 Sn0_Man wrote: Personally, I think that your vote on geript looks dumb moc. I've already stated this but cmon. He legitimately dislikes you due at least in part to your play so far. He makes a case on you that I really don't think is illegitimate, although I think you are town (the case isn't retarded, although it isn't strong either). The fact that you already have him and warbaby as a scumteam rings alarm bells to me because you should know that association cases day 1 pre-flip are NUTSO BAD. As such, I request that you MOVE your vote to something that town can agree upon. If you think that sevryn is not scum, and would prefer to lynch glurio (OR SOME OTHER REAL CANDIDATE WITH REASONS) let me know. Thx. I actually feel like corazon now, as in: people seem to be "forgetting" the filter. I answered previously that I can see why you think it is association. If it was, I would be voting warbaby > geript as first link. My problem is the way Geript came in; he could have defended a scum buddy or a town guy for cred. His choice to chainsaw was suboptimal and is a very scummy action in general His actions since then have also been sub-optimal. His actions and approach post-chain saw have been null and best and "save my scummy ass" at worse. THAT is why i voted Geript. over warbaby. (It is not association based) If you want to know why I kept pressuring warbaby; its because even though I wanted to back off, he kept saying shit that made him suspect again in my opinion. | ||
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
On February 13 2013 08:31 cDgCorazon wrote: Why are you expecting him to change his vote? In my opinion, WB is kind of locked into Sylencia because it's the only person he has really targeted... Like I've said repeatedly, sevryn would be an acceptable secondary target for me. I still think sylencia's posting is not doing anything to move discussion forward. he doesn't need to defend himself, he needs to demonstrate that he's putting work into hunting scum. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On February 13 2013 08:36 Sn0_Man wrote: Either way, if you want to lynch "blendy active" then lynch WoS imo. Buuuuut I really would rather lynch lurkers. They have equal or greater chance of being scum anyway. Wat. I gave a full account of my scumreads lately, was the first (and still only person) to draw upon any suspicion to Zarepath, and have drawn attention to myself all game post-accusations against me. I took a stance early on in the game that some have agreed with and others haven't though I have stuck with it all throughout. How exactly am I 'blendy?' Just because I agree with your recent posts? (the Sevryn vote post you made draws so much on conclusion I already drew earlier I can't even call it yours) | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
Glurio and Sylencia you have an hour left. Care to defend yourselves at all or make some sort of a case? I have no hope for Sevryn at this point. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On February 13 2013 08:36 Sn0_Man wrote: Either way, if you want to lynch "blendy active" then lynch WoS imo. Buuuuut I really would rather lynch lurkers. They have equal or greater chance of being scum anyway. Interesting.. Why WoS instead of zarepath? You know the more I think about the fake case, the odder I think it is Its innovative, cant say I seen that before.. but, perhaps because, the only ppl that need to write fake cases are scum? When he provides his "promised analysis" on the how everything proceeded, I will be in a better position to judge the actual motivation; its just something really different, and dont know how to treat it yet. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On February 13 2013 08:44 WaveofShadow wrote: Come to think of it I'm not sure why I even responded since I'm in no danger of being lynched. Glurio and Sylencia you have an hour left. Care to defend yourselves at all or make some sort of a case? I have no hope for Sevryn at this point. I dont think either of them will be present right now due to timezones. Fingers crossed they are here before the lynch but. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
I'd point out that no one has really made a case against you at all. As far as I see it, your agenda has been to make the town atmosphere negative. Yes, it takes two to get into a flame war and I'm not giving war baby any credit avoiding those spats either. In the least Mocsta has shown that he's willing to listen, even though I think his vote for me is weak at best. You on the other hand have tunnel visioned on your target of the moment at each point. Scum hunting is fine and being aggressive is fine. But the belligerent tone you've taken at many points, especially over exceptionally minor things, isn't beneficial to the town. Rather, it seems to me like you want everyone to spend their time scrutinizing your target so that they avoid you entirely. Your "We haven't gotten scum day 1 lynching lurkers, so lets try a new tack" comment from a while back (would quote but still on phone) keeps on sounding like "Let's lynch a loud voice" to me. In my experience the louder voices are almost always town; I even think one of the guides says something similar. Now you're going to ask why I'm not voting for you (likely), but I still think that you're misguided right now and not an active dissident. So my vote remains in place for right now. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
Such an anticlimactic D1. | ||
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
On February 13 2013 08:45 Mocsta wrote: I dont think either of them will be present right now due to timezones. Fingers crossed they are here before the lynch but. Sylencia posted like 10 minutes ago. Are you confusing him with sevryn? | ||
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On February 13 2013 08:36 Sylencia wrote: Now I'm seeing two reasons why I'm being voted here: - The fact I'm quiet is apparently like the way I played when I was scum (wrong when you compare it to my other games, I was a bit more active during that game but still rather quiet in comparison to the number of players ) - The fact I'm quiet is uncharacteristic (also wrong, look at NMM32/33) The points are kind of contradictory though... This does not constitute a case. Useless WIFOM and he still hasn't posted a case on anyone at all except for his early blue speculation on WB. Sylencia time is running out for you too..... | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On February 13 2013 08:47 warbaby wrote: Sylencia posted like 10 minutes ago. Are you confusing him with sevryn? Sylencia is in Australia so i know hes here (7:50am for me) Glurio is definitely Europe, so Missing IN Action i surmise Sevryn I have no idea; i assume europe and asleep | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On February 13 2013 08:47 geript wrote: Point out what you'd like. I haven't made a case against many people; neither, iirc, have I weighed in on 0 post non-participant vs low count lurker. Those facts are hardly relevant. I'd point out that no one has really made a case against you at all. As far as I see it, your agenda has been to make the town atmosphere negative. Yes, it takes two to get into a flame war and I'm not giving war baby any credit avoiding those spats either. In the least Mocsta has shown that he's willing to listen, even though I think his vote for me is weak at best. You on the other hand have tunnel visioned on your target of the moment at each point. Scum hunting is fine and being aggressive is fine. But the belligerent tone you've taken at many points, especially over exceptionally minor things, isn't beneficial to the town. Rather, it seems to me like you want everyone to spend their time scrutinizing your target so that they avoid you entirely. Your "We haven't gotten scum day 1 lynching lurkers, so lets try a new tack" comment from a while back (would quote but still on phone) keeps on sounding like "Let's lynch a loud voice" to me. In my experience the louder voices are almost always town; I even think one of the guides says something similar. Now you're going to ask why I'm not voting for you (likely), but I still think that you're misguided right now and not an active dissident. So my vote remains in place for right now. who are you referring to here? | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On February 13 2013 08:47 geript wrote: Point out what you'd like. I haven't made a case against many people; neither, iirc, have I weighed in on 0 post non-participant vs low count lurker. Those facts are hardly relevant. I'd point out that no one has really made a case against you at all. As far as I see it, your agenda has been to make the town atmosphere negative. Yes, it takes two to get into a flame war and I'm not giving war baby any credit avoiding those spats either. In the least Mocsta has shown that he's willing to listen, even though I think his vote for me is weak at best. You on the other hand have tunnel visioned on your target of the moment at each point. Scum hunting is fine and being aggressive is fine. But the belligerent tone you've taken at many points, especially over exceptionally minor things, isn't beneficial to the town. Rather, it seems to me like you want everyone to spend their time scrutinizing your target so that they avoid you entirely. Your "We haven't gotten scum day 1 lynching lurkers, so lets try a new tack" comment from a while back (would quote but still on phone) keeps on sounding like "Let's lynch a loud voice" to me. In my experience the louder voices are almost always town; I even think one of the guides says something similar. Now you're going to ask why I'm not voting for you (likely), but I still think that you're misguided right now and not an active dissident. So my vote remains in place for right now. Please explain to me why being aggressive is scummy. If we're going to keep thinking that all "loud voices" are town, at least one scum is going to slip by for a long time. Take a look at my scum play from NMM XXXIII. Why do you think I got away with being scum for so long? Because I was active and looking pro-town. If we take out a scum with a "loud voice" now, our chances of winning go way up. | ||
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glurio
Germany597 Posts
That's something i wouldn't expect from scum. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
I just checked your filter and noticed your recent posts are defensive (perhaps due to pressure you) What I need from you to determine alignment is not a defense; but to see you scum hunt. I could not find a vote in your filter.Please indicate who your top scum read, and dot point why. | ||
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glurio
Germany597 Posts
When exactly is the lynch? In one hour or two? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On February 13 2013 08:50 cDgCorazon wrote: Please explain to me why being aggressive is scummy. If we're going to keep thinking that all "loud voices" are town, at least one scum is going to slip by for a long time. Take a look at my scum play from NMM XXXIII. Why do you think I got away with being scum for so long? Because I was active and looking pro-town. If we take out a scum with a "loud voice" now, our chances of winning go way up. Speaking of loud voices, you were SO adamant for so long on WB lynch now that's it's close to lynch time you unvote? What is your rationale? | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On February 13 2013 08:51 glurio wrote: I'm back, with the current events i'd much rather vote for Mandalor then for sevryn. Mandalor kinda just hopped on syls wagon, while sevryn at least had the guts to vote for someone who didn't have a vote so far and wasn't really in the spotlight. That's something i wouldn't expect from scum. WTF is this shit.. you come in here and just re-quote things I have been saying On February 12 2013 14:41 Mocsta wrote: Heck even sevryn had the balls to bust in over the top of you guys and give an opinion. You're really starting making me want to join the lurker lynch with shit like that. Please address the below On February 13 2013 08:05 Mocsta wrote: Glurio Please detail why YOUR contributions are better than the three people listed above. I am shocked that you would turn your back on your own kind; because as far as I am concerned: YOU are a lurker, which is what I believe you are nominating the above three for. *ironic* is it not? | ||
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