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On February 13 2013 09:05 Sn0_Man wrote: Wow that count vote looks sad  Time to re-read mandalor's filter to see if I can vote him in good conscience I can't, and something seems off to me about Zare's analysis. I need to re-read. | ||
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On February 13 2013 09:02 zarepath wrote: I'm short on time and, unfortunately, as thorough an analysis as I'd hoped. I will be voting for one of the following: Sevryn, glurio, warbaby, Mandalor, Sylencia I checked Sevryn's filter and I don't see him as scummy -- he really stuck to his guns with glurio and went out of his way to flush a lurker (Mandalor). The scummiest thing, IMO, was his reaction to my fake case, but he did bring some new insight to it, at least. Less than a page of filter isn't scummy? Here's his one-post 'flush' of Mandalor. Really accomplished a whole lot considering trying to flush lurkers is all Mocsta and I have been doing. On February 12 2013 13:10 Sevryn wrote: Also I would like to see some more posts from the inactive people specifically Mandalor who made one anti lurker post and also made a pretty bandwagony FOS on WoS while he has made a few posts they dont really say much or bring anything new to the table which is a great way for scum to appear helpful. And this is his half-post 'insight' into the case on me: @ zare Thats a very interesting case you made. I think you over looked the fourth post a little bit in that the way it was worded is basically setting up WoS to defend any lurker he doesn't want lynched and any lurker he does want lynched with a line of qualitative additions which could be interpreted any which way. Um, hell yeah I'm going to cotton-pick my lurker lynch target. What's the point of voting otherwise? I dunno, real weak case to me. Glurio is the only person who has cared much about Sn0, and he's gone back to it a couple times. the scummiest thing about glurio is the fact that he has presented two contradictory reasons as to why he made the case (at least how I read him): 1, because he was told to (people telling him to make cases) even though he knew it wasn't the best case, and 2, he knew it was a bad case but wanted to catch scum agreeing with it. This makes sense and is in line with what I've said in the past, but it's a REAL easy case to make....Zare's MO? Pick on the easy cases? THAT sounds weird (although that's exactly what I did). He also pressured Mandalor, and tried to call attention off of Warbaby in what seemed like a pro-town way. glurio is null-scum to me. But see here's the thing. That's NOT exactly what you did, Zare. Your case was not a bad case on me at all, it was just easy to make and you happened to be the first one to pick it out. And then you left the town to its workings. Trying to compare yourself to glurio who has no capability it seems of making any real case at all is very suspect. Warbaby I didn't have time to read his whole filter. His leap onto my case was pretty suspect, and while he has been super defensive about his alignment, he hasn't scum hunted at ALL, at least that I can tell. But I haven't time right now to do a real check and will go with Sn0 on this one and give him another day.Mandalor has not done anything particularly town-oriented that I can see and I have to go now ##Vote Mandalor That's it? There's a lot of people who haven't done anything real town-oriented, you just have to take a little time and look at basically every lurker in the game right now. FoS: Zarepath | ||
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On February 13 2013 09:12 geript wrote: @Sn0 was talking about Cora. Filtering now. And yes, WoS I saw your post but am finally home. It's ok Geript you appear to have dodged the bullet today. Big martyr. | ||
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On February 13 2013 09:21 Sylencia wrote: I've only checked a few filters unfortunately (bad play by me) but from those I've checked I'm going to still stick with my suspicion on Warbaby. I've tunneled on him a little bit too much though... - Firstly, I didn't read what happened in NMM36 - so I don't know what happened there though you guys seem to have pretty much filled me in on it anyways. - I did my analysis on him, and it feels like he's been aggressively trying to get me killed following it. There are other reasons he has given (lurker) but as Corazon has mentioned, there are a bunch of lurkers in this game and it is like I'm the target because I'm the one in that bunch who has targetted him. - Rather than vote for a player he considers to be scummy, he decides to simply follow a LAL policy - so either he's not willing to vote for the people he finds suspicious or he's not scum hunting but policy killing, and not scum hunting is exactly what he is accusing me of too. Suspicion is not enough with 30 minutes to go. Wishy-washy up until the end is not going to earn you any friends with your neck on the line. | ||
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On February 13 2013 09:48 Sn0_Man wrote: Ummmmmm. LETS HEAR IT 12 minutes to lynch is enough time for me. If I could PM you, I would. It just doesn't make sense right now. | ||
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On February 13 2013 09:55 Sn0_Man wrote: Your vote looks ultra-scummy right now btw It would probably look scummier if I posted what I was going to. You're welcome to FoS me on D2 for voting 0-post but I assure you it's the right call here. | ||
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On February 13 2013 09:55 cDgCorazon wrote: If it's about someone who is not getting lynched today, I'm glad you decided to hold it to yourself. It would be a scum tell if you posted a case about someone who isn't on the chopping block at this point. You mean my case on Zare? lol. I'd still like to see what people think of it after the lynch goes down; there might be more to add to it N1 as well. | ||
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On February 13 2013 09:58 cDgCorazon wrote: Yeah I figured it was against Zare, but I didn't want to say anything until you had posted the case. I already posted a case on Zare lol. Check my filter. The recent thing has nothing to do with Zare but after this I might be able to link it. | ||
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I'll post it now, up to you guys whether you want to believe me or not. + Show Spoiler + Thank you Mocsta and Sn0 for not making me explain this action myself: [b]##Unvote: Macheji ##Vote: Sevryn On February 13 2013 08:27 Mocsta wrote: Mr Sno_Man; i said this at the start of the game (I think).. and I think now is an opportune time to say it again. Policy Lynch is never meant to occur (even town lying can be acceptable at times - e.g. "Are you JK".. Why of course not.. (lie) Lynch all Lurkers is a concept designed to promote discussion and force activity. It is never meant to be followed through with. Think about the consequence. On February 13 2013 04:57 Sn0_Man wrote: Why are you voting for a 1/4 chance when you could vote for a 1/2 chance (glurio/sevyrn)? Plus, I'm of the opinion that it should be fairly easy to lynch one of glurio/sevyrn if you make a realistic case. I can't honestly tell which of the two is scummier. If I'm wrong, risk taken and you can all decide what it means after the fact. | ||
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On February 13 2013 10:05 Mocsta wrote: So your two reads are sevryn and macheji? K...Did you want to lead the pressure on them? Lol Macheji wasn't a read at all. You should realize that yourself based on what you posted. My reads were that one of glurio or Sevryn are scum and now that we've flipped one..... Basically looking back at my earlier analysis of Zare I can't decide if I should drop the FoS on him or not because he may just have been doing the same thing as me; that is, pussing out with a vote he knew wouldn't gain traction. I was debating pulling that last second change but adding a 3rd vote to Sevryn would've cause a lot of havoc and I wasn't sure enough of either of the two to risk that 50/50 chance and having myself implicated as someone who lynched a townie. You guys can implicate me for being a pussy if you want.  | ||
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On February 13 2013 10:07 cDgCorazon wrote: Hey guess what, we didn't "lynch a loud voce" and he flipped town... Uh...glurio was plenty loud right at the end with his ass on the line. | ||
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On February 13 2013 10:24 Acrofales wrote: ObviousOne is replacing Macheji. Well you're lucky then ObviousOne, if it were up to me you'd already be dead. | ||
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On February 13 2013 10:30 Sn0_Man wrote: This entire vote was so retarded. WoS: The fact that you literally threw away your vote with no regard for who got lynched makes me want to call you scum. UNFORTUNATELY, like 6 other people did the same thing (no I didn't count how many). And the fact that I put up a post of the vote change after the fact is scummy, the vote change itself last second would've been scummy, and flip-flopping posts all day as soon as people pointed out to me that 0-post lynch is dumb would've been scummy. Got news for me? | ||
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On February 13 2013 10:39 Mocsta wrote: Sn0 I am finding warbaby trying to fit in with town just not working for me. I am more than happy for him to pursue this lead and pressure me (and the others). I think it will lead to his undoing, and then hopefully you guys will see what I see. I think debating on who scum voted for and why is just too much WIFOM, save it for after a flip is my opinion. But you know what, sometimes it's necessary. We just flipped, let's talk about it Mocsta, and those who lynched our poor Glurio. I honestly wish I were better at this game because I can't pick out scumroles/scumteam. I could very easily see you and geript going at it and picking up opposite roles along with a lurker....ugh. After my second midterm tomorrow and N1 I'll have more time to put into this and I'll try to come up with something. | ||
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On February 13 2013 11:09 Mocsta wrote: Im heading off. maybe back in a couple hours WoS Votes dont apply N1 lol  Im happy to discuss Sevryn further; what makes him scum to you? No need for a case, just outline some dot points you think are scum tells. Lol yeah I wasn't sure of that, but I made it fairly obvious that that's who I'm gunning for anyway. I'm about 95% certain Sevryn is scum. On February 13 2013 04:52 WaveofShadow wrote: I feel like doing a full case on Sevryn right now but I have a midterm soon so I don't have the time to follow up. Will be back a few hours pre-vote. Sevryn has been tunneling Glurio REAL hard all game. The only post not directed at Glurio since yesterday was one talking about how he wants to see more from lurkers like Mandalor when they have contributed far more than he has. His filter is one page long and the first few posts are all game theory crap. Not linking here because you can check the filter yourself; real easy read. Now I don't like glurio this game either so I'm going to speculate a little. I don't believe they are both scum. If they were both scum and Sevryn implicates glurio, then he is in danger of being lynched D1 due to lurker/scummy reads on him so far. I can't see him doing this and leaving it up to chance at the end of the day like he says. I don't believe this is a bus attempt either because it's a newbie game, and bussing is real big talk most of the time. I don't believe they are both good town either because each has posted 'just enough' to attempt to stay under radar while contributing absolutely nothing of value. Essentially I believe either Sevryn or glurio are scum right now, with another scum being one of the 0-post lurkers, Sylencia or geript as I had stated earlier. From my earlier case. I'll admit I had a scumread on glurio but it wasn't enough to vote for him because I was scared to, as stated before. I wanted to change my vote to Sevryn but I was scared of being wrong because they had a 50/50 shot in my mind. Nothing has changed on my Sevryn read from D1 except now, he has helped lynch a townie---noticeably later in the day too when he began tunneling glurio with an incredibly weak case. (His 'FoS' was just copy-pasting glurio and saying 'you look scummy') This tunneling also only began well after the precedent was already set down by Sn0 and I. Essentially the only thing I'm worried about right now is if somehow 9-bit and...OO both rolled scum and we learned nothing from them D1...which makes up the 5% I'm not sure of. (Probability that both 0-posts are scum = 4.5%) | ||
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On February 14 2013 04:43 ObviousOne wrote: Town is fearless. Share your reads when you have them. Your win-con is TOWN win, not YOU survive. Anything you say can and (will) probably be used against you and it's towns job to see who erroneously uses it against you. Just look at the Warbaby fiasco. Somewhere in that mess is going to be at least one decent scum read. A valid point. My problem is neither my reads on glurio or Sevryn at the time were particularly strong and probably easily picked apart by someone better at the game than me. I know I've been super inactive N1, but it's gonna have to stay that way probably until the N1 action happens as I still have a lot to do today. I will be back in full force on D2. | ||
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