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VisceraEyes
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VisceraEyes
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
On February 07 2013 03:28 VisceraEyes wrote: Oh neat, Palmar didn't even comment on random lynching. Another infallible scum tell for our icelandic friend. ##Vote: Palmar Later on you said palmar does not care, and that is a sign that he is scum. Both this points have been refuted by oats (with the Marv vote) and me (Death note). What's baffling me is that I feel you should have known better than that. You were in LVIII with Marv and Palmar and even answered to the very quote of Marv that oats posted. And even without this, you are long enough active here that i would expect you to know that palmar does these stunts as town sometimes. Therefor I really feel you tried to pull a Risen here and lynch palmar for his inactivity although you should know that he could be town, and could be a an important asset to town later on. On February 07 2013 17:58 VisceraEyes wrote: Okay, I've read the whole thread again. First of all, where the fuck is prplhz and why isn't anyone else curious? He has literally 4 in game posts and while he appears to be interested in "thread atmosphere", I just have no idea who he thinks is scum. Djo bringing back up the whole Oats/Mocsta thing is just...confusing. What's the point? I'm not even sure what he's accusing Mocsta of in the first place. @Djo What exactly is your problem with Mocsta? It's like you're suspicious of him because he didn't join your random lynch (which you say that you didn't even really like). As I said earlier, I'm very very interested in clearing out the trash, being players who signed up and aren't playing. Right now that list is: Palmar prplhz Snarfs JX There's no way in hell they're all scum. Here's what I want to do. I think everyone should choose one name off that list that they believe is the most realistic lynch candidate based on what they perceive to be town sentiment. Then I want them to explain why they aren't voting for that person, and explain in detail why their lynch candidate is better. Know this. GM made it clear in the OP that lurkers will ruin this game. You don't even have to take my word for it, it's right in the OP. The worst thing townies can do in this setup is lurk. Therefor, I don't want to lynch someone active today. We can start lynching into active posters with more flip information. I think prplhz is the most realistic lynch candidate, and I'll tell you why (though you probably won't like it.) Palmar apparently wants to lynch prplhz. Is that fucked up or what? But it's true. If Palmar comes back in here and says "Yeah I still want to lynch prplhz" then I believe that prplhz will get lynched. In spite of fucking off for the entire game, Palmar has more say over who gets lynched than I do. But I'm not bitter - all is not lost you see. For I can also get down on a prplhz lynch. I'd still do somersaults over a Palmar lynch or Snarfs lynch, but honestly I just don't think I can make it happen today. ____________________________________________________________________ On the active posters: I'd like to see more from slOosh. Him backing out of his yamato read, while admirable I guess, leaves me wondering just who he thinks is scum. He mentioned phagga as a means of determining prplhz' alignment...somehow? But made it clear that he wasn't really a scumread. Ultimately he wants it to be clear that he's not doing nothing, which generally sets off red flags for me. He started out as a super townread too, which is why this is concerning for me. @slOosh You say "let's work with what we've got". I've got a case on Snarfs that you haven't commented on. I've got a lurker policy that I'd like you to consider. I'd really like to hear who you think is scum. yamato is on my to-do list tomorrow morning. So is Cheesecake. I'm going to bed now. ##Unvote: Palmar ##Vote: prplhz So, you vote Palmar because he is scum according to you, and then you switch to Palmars target (prplhz) saying if Palmar (who you think is scum) is going to push prplhz, he will get his will anyway. So you freely succumb to scum? What is this? Oh, I forgot, you will of course still be happy to lynch palmar if someone else wants to, but now you no longer want to push him, and instead push the target of your scumread! How is that a town motivated move? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
Riddle me this phagga: how do you think scumPalmar would say he wants to lynch prplhz, regardless of prplhz alignment KNOWING that he's going to disappear for however long and not participate in the game? I wouldn't expect a townPalmar to even say he wants to lynch anyone in that manner knowing he hasn't read the thread and isn't going to read the thread long enough to warn us about it. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
If scum Thing is i am not sure if mafia needed to bus jx yet. When i went to bed he wasnt a majority candidate. Phagga what do u make of palmar voting prplhz when everyone else cleared him by meta? | ||
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VisceraEyes
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prplhz
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On February 08 2013 08:20 Mocsta wrote: Hmmm this ve stuff phagga in conjunction with snarfs case isnt looking good for ve. [...] You can't mention Snarfs case as reasonable for possibily lynching VisceraEyes when you have said (repeatedly) that it isn't a good case. I can do that, however, since I've always liked Snarfs case. I don't like the looks of VisceraEyes. I'll lynch him over JieXian. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
I'm leaving before I say something horrible. | ||
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Mocsta
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i.e. VE not oushing his reads hard Same tjing when phone typing mr. thread snipet (prplhz) | ||
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Mocsta
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If scum Thing is i am not sure if mafia needed to bus jx yet. When i went to bed he wasnt a majority candidate. Phagga what do u make of palmar voting prplhz when everyone else cleared him by meta? | ||
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Mocsta
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i.e. VE not pushing his reads hard Same tjing when phone typing mr. thread snipet (prplhz) | ||
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Mocsta
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
On February 08 2013 08:18 VisceraEyes wrote: It's town motivated because I want to lynch Palmar and prplhz. If Palmar wants to help me do so, that's his thing. Like, do you think Palmar is incapable of bussing his teammates? Riddle me this phagga: how do you think scumPalmar would say he wants to lynch prplhz, regardless of prplhz alignment KNOWING that he's going to disappear for however long and not participate in the game? I wouldn't expect a townPalmar to even say he wants to lynch anyone in that manner knowing he hasn't read the thread and isn't going to read the thread long enough to warn us about it. Of course Palmar is capable of bussing his teammates, but you MUST have been aware at this point that Palmar could have voted a townie. And let's just be clear: this post On February 07 2013 23:05 Palmar wrote: I can't be much around today. Very quick reading makes me want to lynch cheescake, snarfs, prplhz maybe phagga or yamato So I'll leave my vote on prplhz came after the post I quoted before. So what you are saying is that a) Palmar has a lot of influence, b) Palmar is scum and c) Palmar comes into the thread and busses his teammate immediatly, hence you vote his teammate. That just does not make any sense to me. And I'm not talking about Palmars alignment here (which is a different discussion), I'm solely talking about how you chose to abandon your scum read and instead voted for your scumread's target, and that I don't understand that move. | ||
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prplhz
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VisceraEyes
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And regardless of the second post you quoted, the fact remains that he didn't do shit to actually get prplhz lynched. This is a fact. So you can bitch at me all you want about "voting for my scumread's target", because I know that prplhz was never really a target for Palmar because he's come back since then and hasn't mentioned him again. Not even a "Guys lynch prplhz" like he's wont to do. Nothing. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
(1) What do you make of sl0osh and his lack of appearance in basically 24hrs Its near lynch deadline, and he still hasnt voted.. he backed off yamato pretty easily too (2) What do you make of Djo, aside from setup talk all he has done is inflate a comment I made. During the pivotal lynch discussions yesterday (he made himself present by voting) but decided to lurk and only push his vote on Palmar. (3) Im confident on JX as scum. His contributions since coming back have about flinging shit at everything till something sticks. That is his scum meta to a tee. My problem is Palmar... im still convinced by the marv quote to give palmar a chance... but palmar wants to lynch prplhz and save JX.. (i thought we all agreed prplhz meta is matching town) so palmar recommendations are direct opposite to what I expected... | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
On February 08 2013 08:54 VisceraEyes wrote: He didn't explain anything in that post phagga. He didn't say why he wanted to lynch any of those targets. It barely even qualifies as a bus in that instance because he's not pushing his read and he's barely interested in where his vote goes. And regardless of the second post you quoted, the fact remains that he didn't do shit to actually get prplhz lynched. This is a fact. So you can bitch at me all you want about "voting for my scumread's target", because I know that prplhz was never really a target for Palmar because he's come back since then and hasn't mentioned him again. Not even a "Guys lynch prplhz" like he's wont to do. Nothing. VE, I dont get this, can you please explain in more detail because I know that prplhz was never really a target for Palmar because he's come back since then and hasn't mentioned him again The problem I have with this is the timeline (1) Palmar: Vote prplhz //VE: Vote Palmar (2) VE: Pro-town post: lynch 1 of these 4.. I will vote palmar scum read (3) Palmar gives list of lynch candidates So how did you know palmar would back down.. when all you had was a single vote on prplhz? That is very unclear to me. | ||
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
If Palmar comes back in here and says "Yeah I still want to lynch prplhz" then I believe that prplhz will get lynched. So while it is true that Palmar has not pushed him, you did not have this kind of knowledge when you wrote your post yesterday, and instead claimed that prplhz was a good target because of the very fact that if Palmar pushes him, he will get prplhz lynched. That contradicts your "Palmar is bussing prplhz" theory, since a scum palmar would probably not actively push a lynch on his team mate. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
slOosh had a really strong showing early. I don't think he necessarily backed off yamato easily, but the problem is that yamato was like his only read and he's fucked off. Generally speaking, I think he's bought a day...but like I said, I'm growing more wary as more time passes. | ||
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phagga
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