Nomination Mafia - Page 32

On February 08 2013 02:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
The reason why I think Palmar is town this game, much to my regret is,

On February 08 2013 02:23 Mocsta wrote:
Guys, after doing that votecount, we have no idea what the USA shift is going to lean towards as they become active in the next couple hours. There is no firm candidate for lynch.

I think we HAVE to consolidate. From what I can see the choices are Palmar / JX / Snarfs

I am concerned about Palmar, BUT I think we need to go for the guaranteed flip.

For me thats JX.

His filter speaks for itself; I think he is the safest choice. (and his latest posts about oats are just ridiculous)

Mr. CC i know you want Snarfs on the table; but do you really think he is a higher chance to flip than JX?

##Unvote
##Vote: JieXian

How do you even know he's town? Everybody, regardless of role, just wants to not get lynched. He hops on the most popular bandwagon in order to not get lynched. Lynching a town Palmar is just a bi-product if he's scum.

On February 08 2013 02:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
Nah, I think he is town, but my issues with him can be brought up post game.

I didnt read that before I wanted to lynch Palmar.


The scummy thing about his vote, is that he didnt vote the guy with the most votes for the longest, like Slark, who is scummy, he voted the for the lynch that was fast becoming a bandwagon. So it seems like he is trying to bandwagon Palmar out of this game. Which is scummy

On February 07 2013 12:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont care if Palmer is town actually at this point, he hasnt posted enough for ANYONE to get a read on him
Vets cannot let their reputation carry the game for them, especially since there are no nightkills in this game so its not like he is gonna die day 1 if he is really good.
This is a pure LURKER lynch.

Mr CC has contributed more than him and he replaced like 12+ hours later.

##Unvote
##Vote: Palmer.

On February 07 2013 17:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
Come on guys, LYNCH PALMER.
Its easy
+ Show Spoiler +

On February 07 2013 18:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
I am voting for Palmer because he knows better, he really does. At least I hope so :/

On February 07 2013 20:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
The problem is that he skates by by his reputation, which I dont think is a good way to play and is abhorrent to the notion of playing to win

he didnt say anything about being busy, nothing is indicated in his tone that he is busy.
He is just trolling. And I dont care how 'good' he is, this play shouldnt be encouraged.
Talking about Palmer by the way.

On February 07 2013 23:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok lynching Palmer in 2 days.

IMMINENT.

On February 08 2013 01:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
Mr CC
Why are we not lynching Palmer today, given that he has produced NOTHING of actual worth?

On February 08 2013 01:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
CC, why should Palmer get a pass just cause he is good at town? I dont see any indication of it so far. Do you want to lynch based on reputation or scummyness CC? Since you said that his behaviour was scummy if it was from a 'new' person, why is it not scummy if it is from him?

On February 08 2013 02:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: JieXian

You ask why? Cause he sheeped onto Palmer.

On February 08 2013 02:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
The reason why I think Palmar is town this game, much to my regret is,

On February 08 2013 02:51 phagga wrote:


Dude I wrote i am on the train, how about you read my posts? Yes, set on jx. My point was more about scum abusing palmars meta, his behaviour so far is just not alignement-indicative, and he is probably the only one that I would let get away with it.

Snarf I feel unsure about, have to read up fully on his case on VE. I currently think he might be right about VE, so I do not want to lynch him

On February 08 2013 02:35 Mocsta wrote:

Snarfs; I read your case in detail.

Im going to be blunt here.

Before I read your case:
My matrix: Snarfs:null, VE: probably town.

After I read your case:
No change.

May I add, using your criteria for town VE, makes me think he is town even more.

Whats agitating with your case is that the meta is from March 2012.
The game changes, and so do people. (Yes subconscious behaviour probably doesnt.. but that isnt int he crux of your commentary) You're pointing out post structure meta etc and its out of date by one year.

I was hoping you were going to post a read from Normal Mini mafia 4 (Meta Feb 2013, he was town)
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What are we left with?

Either:
You are scum, and trying to contribute without contributing
      OR
You are tunneled town, that was so fixated on a concept you couldnt let go.

Many in the thread will probably say you're scum; I want to give you a chance as i think something like this is far more likely from tunneled town.

Can you please discuss the following:
@Snarfs
You said before you dont think Palmar should be lynched.
However, Palmar has voted prplhz; who many have defended as town due to meta (including you)

If you think prplhz is town; do you still support Palmar surviving this lynch? If so, I would like a detailed response on why.

On February 07 2013 09:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think Snarfs might well be scum. So here's a little push in his direction, care of the guy who isn't pushing anyone.

First of all, something I noticed last night.



Here we see Snarfs' first vote on me. He's convinced of my alignment based on the fact that I left the thread "when two other players start shitting up the thread". But...why? Why is that indicative of me being scum? The only way that makes sense is if he is assuming that Oats and Mocsta are both town...and this is a conclusion he couldn't have already come to at this point in the game.

This alone isn't really enough for me to call him scum, but then we see how he pushes me after this:





Anything new in there? Just a weak-ass meta read based on 24 hours of D1. But he asked for others' opinions TWICE in those two posts. We have players who haven't said fuck all. He's saying we can't lynch Palmar today...why? Why the fuck not? He's not doing shit. But he wants to lynch me? Based on what? A weak ass meta read and an absence I've explained?

It's cognitive dissonance. Why would he be against lynching Palmar D1 and not against lynching VE D1 for the same reason? I mean, okay if he thinks Palmar is better for town than me assuming we're both town, that's one thing...but he doesn't say as much. He simply shuts down the Palmar lynch for no reason...when no one is even voting for Palmar but me.

Now I'm at a crossroads. I want to kill Palmar with the holy fire of righeousness. But I also want Snarfs to hang. I want others' opinions of this, because at this point I could go either way. Kill the scummy lurker who doesn't give a shit, or kill the scummy active participant? Right now I'm leaning lynching Palmar, but if there's more support for a Snarfs lynch I'm all over that shit.

On February 08 2013 02:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
JX, is there a scum motivation for my 180?

Cause the town motivation is to stop a mislynch.

On February 08 2013 03:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
Still no quotes from this game explaining your viewpoint. Just vague meta references and now you're throwing in non-alignment indicative bullshit.

##Unvote: prplhz
##Vote: Snarfs

WOOOWOOOOOOOOO This is the lynch guys, all aboard.