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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On February 08 2013 01:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: C'mon JX. Even as scummy as snarfs is, that's a null tell =/ and kind of a cheap shot I'm not saying he's scum yet, I just can't rationalise with it. I'll decide after his promised post on VE | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
On February 08 2013 01:14 prplhz wrote: Will people please comment on jaybrundage. JieXian sucks and he'll need to do something about that but in the meantime I want some feedback on jaybrundage. You think he's mafia because of the way he went about pressuring Djo, correct? I'll take a look, just because I think you're town and might be right. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
On February 08 2013 01:11 yamato77 wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=393344&user=126438 This is prplhz's filter from LIX where he was mafia, lynched D1. While this is only somewhat useful on its own, what is important to note is how he was caught that game, which was through analysis of his meta. So, at the very least, we can assume that some of his posting this game is similar to how he usually plays mafia, and especially so at the beginning of the game. So what characteristics do we use to define that filter? Trollish, disconnected, and overall useless to town. Devoid of reads, or any real interaction. Yes, at some point he realized he was dead and did nothing, but that wasn't the whole day. At least some part of that filter is indicative of his meta, and he hasn't matched it at all this game. This is his first post this game. What is he doing here? Caring about town, and actually giving out reads. Town reads, but reads nonetheless, and some insight into how he got them. This is a stark difference from the trolly attitude he got caught with in LIX. This post, he keeps with his pro-town theme and gives two more reads. He says I could be lynched, that he agrees with Sloosh's case. Again, he is thinking about who he wants to lynch, why he wants to lynch them, and being townie about it. The dude is green. Im actually not sure what to do here. I dont want to take the priority off JX, so its prob not worth going into detail with this. Look thanks for sharing your POV. Its good to know we talking about the same two points (feud interjection and yamato intimidation for town tell). - I dont agree fully with your assessment BUT. Either way, I dont see value taking this any further. prplhz is not up for lynch tonight. JX is. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On February 08 2013 01:15 JieXian wrote: I'm not saying he's scum yet, I just can't rationalise with it. I'll decide after his promised post on VE Who is scum right now JX. Today is almost over and you've done nothing but make a case on Mocsta today, and now you're not even pushing that read. If you're town you have zero reason to play this way right now. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
On February 08 2013 01:12 Oatsmaster wrote: Mocsta, if you say that prp has posted enough to push an agenda, what is that agenda? i said he has posted enough he *could* have pushed an agenda. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
On February 07 2013 08:44 Snarfs wrote: All right, so here are my thoughts: 1) On VE: My vote on VE was initially because of exactly what I said - of the three people that came into the conversation, he was the quickest to abandon it when things got heated. Now, he claims that he was commuting and I can't exactly dispute that. But since then, I've had no reason to move my vote off of him. Look at the way he's saying things. Who is he even pressuring? Read through his filter and try to figure out who he's pushing. Palmar!? We're not lynching Palmar day 1, why waste time? As for the other people VE is "pressuring", there's no vindication. Phagga? Nope. yamato? Maybe, I can't really tell. When VE is town, he pushes people. He pushes them hard to determine their alignment and it's obvious he's pushing people. I think this is scum VE. -snip- Snarfs, this is your ONLY read in the game. You keep saying you're going to probe into VE more but I fail to see it. You cite his lack of vindication but that seems to be a hypocritical statement. You're extremely nonconfrontational and only want to focus on one person in this game. IE DoYouHas in witchcraft. You also kinda lurky breh. Snarfs lets go. gimme yo case on VE. Yamato, I'm generally not a fan of meta reads on people I haven't played with, and I believe you already know that... sorry  Prplhz, We haven't talked at all this game. What exactly is your stance on Jay right now? Your filter is kinda texty and disorganized... I'm not finding much scummy about Mr. Jay right now other than the jumping on the ez djo bandwagon. (Djo is like Thrawn: Hey guys, I'm miller [Hero mini mafia?]) | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
1 Quarrelling with mocsta 2 some pressuring on Sloosh and Snarfs 3 defending prprlp because he doesn't think he's scum 4 being obsessed with palmar ie nothing Why is everyone giving him the green read just because of point 1? | ||
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
On February 08 2013 01:08 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: @VE Please hurry with your "to-do" list on me. This game has been incredibly odd for me, because I'm used to people being like "omg ur scum" and slap me with a case. Being pressured helps me get reads on my accuser, so please do point out anything you find troubling with my play. I'll say to you what I said to Yamato in British: c'mon bro, tunnel me. I see Phagga just randomly wants to lynch JX now for the same restated reasons, seems legit. Interesting stance on prphlz, however, seems like you put a lot more into that read than JX's (or did you simply just want to see more from prphlz?) Why the hell is nobody lynching snarfs right now? Get off of Palmar at least if anyone still wants to lynch him D1. Yes, I put more into the read on prplhz than on JX, which has also to do with the amount of posts existing at that point (there were like 2 from JX?). I wanted to see more from both, but chose to pressure JX via vote. I had some confidence that prphlz would show up in the thread again anyway. Since he has posted more meanwhile, I can say now that I don't see him as scum currently. He has laid out his thoughts clearly so far and is now pushing to get more people talk about jaybrundage, who he is worried about. | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On February 08 2013 01:17 yamato77 wrote: Who is scum right now JX. Today is almost over and you've done nothing but make a case on Mocsta today, and now you're not even pushing that read. If you're town you have zero reason to play this way right now. ? don't I have 11 more hours? On February 06 2013 10:55 BioSC wrote: Day 1 Welcome to Nomination Mafia! You have 48 hours to decide who must die. Good Luck! | ||
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Snarfs
Canada1006 Posts
I don't think prplhz is a good lynch. Normally when prplhz is town I feel like he's scummy and right now I feel like he's scummy so he's probably town. Last time we played together we were both scum and he was a lot more tunnely. Last time I was town I tried to lynch him because he gives off this just blending in vibe that I picked up this game from his first couple of posts - my immediate reaction was to agree with Palmar that he's scum, but I double checked these last two games I'm talking about and this seems much more in line with town prplhz. | ||
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Snarfs
Canada1006 Posts
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
Also, you think it's good town play to wait for the very last second to show you are town? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
On February 08 2013 01:25 Snarfs wrote: Okay, I'm caught up give me another little bit to get to my computer and I'll do up that case on VE. I don't think prplhz is a good lynch. Normally when prplhz is town I feel like he's scummy and right now I feel like he's scummy so he's probably town. Last time we played together we were both scum and he was a lot more tunnely. Last time I was town I tried to lynch him because he gives off this just blending in vibe that I picked up this game from his first couple of posts - my immediate reaction was to agree with Palmar that he's scum, but I double checked these last two games I'm talking about and this seems much more in line with town prplhz. tl;dr you think this is his town meta, right? What do you think is scummy about prplhz? Can you reference the two games you are talking about? | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
On February 08 2013 01:21 Oatsmaster wrote: Thats like everyone in the game except palmer. What. Are you going to kick start the 1 line posts to me again. I told you before, shit questions = shit answers. Ask a question asking directly what you want an answer to, and I will oblige. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
Jay, for instance, I said I would look into. How does he play as mafia? Aloof, trollish, lurky. Is he any of that this game? Maybe kind of lurky, but he did pressure Djo on a valid point. He backed off because he realized Djo might not be mafia after all. Why would a mafia player draw attention to himself with a dumb idea like a random lynch? As CC said, he's much more likely to be silly town like thrawn from Hero Mini. I think jay realized this somewhere along the line. He gets townie points for picking out JX as a read, too. No reason to think he's mafia yet, to be honest. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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Snarfs
Canada1006 Posts
On February 08 2013 01:29 phagga wrote: tl;dr you think this is his town meta, right? What do you think is scummy about prplhz? Can you reference the two games you are talking about? Yes, give me 2 seconds. | ||
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