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On February 08 2013 01:41 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Also Yamato, I feel the need to say this. You are the towniest I've ever seen you in any game I've played with you. And that disturbs me lol. Your town play was always confirmation biased "kill cheesecake RAWR RAWR". Either your playing a great scumgame here or you've actually leveled your head. Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 01:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yamato, yes in fact.
I feel that Snarf is most likely gonna flip red.
CC, why should Palmer get a pass just cause he is good at town? I dont see any indication of it so far. Do you want to lynch based on reputation or scummyness CC? Since you said that his behaviour was scummy if it was from a 'new' person, why is it not scummy if it is from him? As far as I see it Oats, JX is equal to Palmar right now. Both have been similarly as useless, just throwing random names out there with little justification. JX seems scummier marginally. Palmar is all lurky and stuff, sure, but if he's town we will KNOW it tomorrow (or tonight).
"Little justification" says the guy with a gut read on oats...
On February 08 2013 01:32 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
JX,
Oatsmaster is somewhat of a difficult guy to read from a normal standpoint. I've played with him when he was 'obv scum', but turned out to be town. I've also caught him as scum D1. Call it a gut feeling, but I can't identify a decently scummy part of his play. If he's really red, I'll be able to understand him in the grand scheme of things later. Def. not scum to me right now.
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On February 08 2013 01:41 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 01:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On February 08 2013 01:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
Mr CC
Why are we not lynching Palmer today, given that he has produced NOTHING of actual worth? I heard somewhere that he is this amazing entity that has the propensity to catch scum lurking within the shadows. Let's say JX and Palmar are both town. Both are lurky / useless / kind of the same thing right meow. Who would you rather lose? JX. If Palmar is still being useless as all hell we can deal with him later. But if he's town It would be a huge detriment to lose him. Agreed. but this game doesnt have night kill and with nomination mechanic, we never have to vote him.to me thats better than having bodyguards as mayor; he coudl be the most pro-town motherfucker ever and not have to worry about being lynch. Why isnt he doing this?
Holy crap that is a good point Mocsta. In a normal game, mafia kill the most townie player. In this game type, we have to kill the scummiest player available within the pool Mafia gives us. Idk why he's not showing us his ultra mega super gosu townie scumhunter side at this point... it would actually be beneficial.
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On February 08 2013 01:41 yamato77 wrote:
Look at my list.
JX, Palmar, Snarfs, Phagga
Most of you want to lynch at least one of them, no?
Why not lynch JX first? I want reasons he is town before we consider anyone else today.
@ yamato
JieXian started to post. You were scum with him in your last game so I must admit I'm tempted to trust you on this one.
Do you have anything more relevant that the fact that he lurked hardcore until now ?
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Hold on guys.
Why are people switching off JX?
I need to know why he's not dying if people want to lynch other people.
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On February 08 2013 01:45 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 01:43 Djodref wrote:On February 08 2013 01:39 Mocsta wrote:On February 08 2013 01:35 yamato77 wrote:
Oats, I know you think Snarf is mafia and all, and I agree on a certain level, but is he really a better lynch than JX today? I have a different problem. I listed before I thought either prplhz or palmar was mafia, as I doubt palmar vote on prplhz is a bus. I checked the Mafia LIX game, and yes I concede the posts are radically different. I still have issues with some of his play this game (specifically lack of information sharing) butwilling to put prplhz as null for now What im getting at is; if prplhz is null/town; and palmar is pushing his vote; perhaps palmar should be the candidate... thoughts? i.e. if palmar is of the value everyone is proposing, he should have got prplhz was town via meta like all you guys... that he didnt, is perhaps a concern? Yeah, that's a concern. That and the fact that he gave no justification for his lynch. Would you like to lynch Palmar with me, Mocsta ? Welcome.. 1am for you too? Fuck it, yes ##Unvote
##Vote: Palmar
Actually, it's almost 2 am for me now. I was having a dinner with coworkers 
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but I'm still not convinced.
People argue meta by posting previous games. WHy aren't you doing that
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On February 08 2013 01:46 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 01:41 yamato77 wrote:
Look at my list.
JX, Palmar, Snarfs, Phagga
Most of you want to lynch at least one of them, no?
Why not lynch JX first? I want reasons he is town before we consider anyone else today. @ yamatoJieXian started to post. You were scum with him in your last game so I must admit I'm tempted to trust you on this one. Do you have anything more relevant that the fact that he lurked hardcore until now ?
What is he doing with his posts right now? Defending himself. His read on Oats smells of total bullshit. Do you think Oats is mafia? I know JX is viewed as bad town, but come on. This is a weak attempt to get the lynch off him and the sad thing is that it's working.
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The points raised on Palmar make a lot of sense
##Unvote
##Vote: Palmar
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Definitely not lynching Palmar now.
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On February 08 2013 01:45 JieXian wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 01:41 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Also Yamato, I feel the need to say this. You are the towniest I've ever seen you in any game I've played with you. And that disturbs me lol. Your town play was always confirmation biased "kill cheesecake RAWR RAWR". Either your playing a great scumgame here or you've actually leveled your head. On February 08 2013 01:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yamato, yes in fact.
I feel that Snarf is most likely gonna flip red.
CC, why should Palmer get a pass just cause he is good at town? I dont see any indication of it so far. Do you want to lynch based on reputation or scummyness CC? Since you said that his behaviour was scummy if it was from a 'new' person, why is it not scummy if it is from him? As far as I see it Oats, JX is equal to Palmar right now. Both have been similarly as useless, just throwing random names out there with little justification. JX seems scummier marginally. Palmar is all lurky and stuff, sure, but if he's town we will KNOW it tomorrow (or tonight). "Little justification" says the guy with a gut read on oats... Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 01:32 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
JX,
Oatsmaster is somewhat of a difficult guy to read from a normal standpoint. I've played with him when he was 'obv scum', but turned out to be town. I've also caught him as scum D1. Call it a gut feeling, but I can't identify a decently scummy part of his play. If he's really red, I'll be able to understand him in the grand scheme of things later. Def. not scum to me right now.
JX, your scumread on Mocsta was pretty fail. Yes I have a gut townread, but it's not the only thing I'm doing today. All I've seen from you is Mocsta scum gogo 2 lines kill this guy.
And then trying to fling shit at djo/oats/snarfs to see where it will stick. You are incredibly wish-washy to say the least.
Still waiting for snarfs case to decide if he's worthy to live today.
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On February 08 2013 01:48 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 01:46 Djodref wrote:On February 08 2013 01:41 yamato77 wrote:
Look at my list.
JX, Palmar, Snarfs, Phagga
Most of you want to lynch at least one of them, no?
Why not lynch JX first? I want reasons he is town before we consider anyone else today. @ yamatoJieXian started to post. You were scum with him in your last game so I must admit I'm tempted to trust you on this one. Do you have anything more relevant that the fact that he lurked hardcore until now ? What is he doing with his posts right now? Defending himself. His read on Oats smells of total bullshit. Do you think Oats is mafia? I know JX is viewed as bad town, but come on. This is a weak attempt to get the lynch off him and the sad thing is that it's working.
tell me how it's bullshit again
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On February 08 2013 01:43 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 01:38 JieXian wrote:On February 08 2013 01:32 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
JX,
Oatsmaster is somewhat of a difficult guy to read from a normal standpoint. I've played with him when he was 'obv scum', but turned out to be town. I've also caught him as scum D1. Call it a gut feeling, but I can't identify a decently scummy part of his play. If he's really red, I'll be able to understand him in the grand scheme of things later. Def. not scum to me right now.
Care to justify it to me please? It's a personal meta read. I don't agree with others when they use them, and I don't expect you to agree with me on the fact. It's a gut feeling, and my gut tends to be correct with reads like this. His interaction with Mocsta left me feeling Oats townier than Mocsta in general. Oats is at least null leaning townzorz for me.
Oats is definitely town. As scum he is aggressive but backs down and changes tune when shit hits the fan. Hes not doing that this game.Having re-read that part of the game we were feuding, I can now see i took the interactions more personal than him, but even with my "low blows" he didnt back down.
In my matrix I have two confirmed town. me and him.
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On February 08 2013 01:49 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 01:45 JieXian wrote:On February 08 2013 01:41 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Also Yamato, I feel the need to say this. You are the towniest I've ever seen you in any game I've played with you. And that disturbs me lol. Your town play was always confirmation biased "kill cheesecake RAWR RAWR". Either your playing a great scumgame here or you've actually leveled your head. On February 08 2013 01:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yamato, yes in fact.
I feel that Snarf is most likely gonna flip red.
CC, why should Palmer get a pass just cause he is good at town? I dont see any indication of it so far. Do you want to lynch based on reputation or scummyness CC? Since you said that his behaviour was scummy if it was from a 'new' person, why is it not scummy if it is from him? As far as I see it Oats, JX is equal to Palmar right now. Both have been similarly as useless, just throwing random names out there with little justification. JX seems scummier marginally. Palmar is all lurky and stuff, sure, but if he's town we will KNOW it tomorrow (or tonight). "Little justification" says the guy with a gut read on oats... On February 08 2013 01:32 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
JX,
Oatsmaster is somewhat of a difficult guy to read from a normal standpoint. I've played with him when he was 'obv scum', but turned out to be town. I've also caught him as scum D1. Call it a gut feeling, but I can't identify a decently scummy part of his play. If he's really red, I'll be able to understand him in the grand scheme of things later. Def. not scum to me right now.
JX, your scumread on Mocsta was pretty fail. Yes I have a gut townread, but it's not the only thing I'm doing today. All I've seen from you is Mocsta scum gogo 2 lines kill this guy. And then trying to fling shit at djo/oats/snarfs to see where it will stick. You are incredibly wish-washy to say the least. Still waiting for snarfs case to decide if he's worthy to live today.
Sorry I posted "nvm sniped" a few posts after that
Care to justify it please? Or does anyone have an opinion? Mocsta?
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On February 08 2013 01:49 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 01:45 JieXian wrote:On February 08 2013 01:41 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Also Yamato, I feel the need to say this. You are the towniest I've ever seen you in any game I've played with you. And that disturbs me lol. Your town play was always confirmation biased "kill cheesecake RAWR RAWR". Either your playing a great scumgame here or you've actually leveled your head. On February 08 2013 01:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yamato, yes in fact.
I feel that Snarf is most likely gonna flip red.
CC, why should Palmer get a pass just cause he is good at town? I dont see any indication of it so far. Do you want to lynch based on reputation or scummyness CC? Since you said that his behaviour was scummy if it was from a 'new' person, why is it not scummy if it is from him? As far as I see it Oats, JX is equal to Palmar right now. Both have been similarly as useless, just throwing random names out there with little justification. JX seems scummier marginally. Palmar is all lurky and stuff, sure, but if he's town we will KNOW it tomorrow (or tonight). "Little justification" says the guy with a gut read on oats... On February 08 2013 01:32 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
JX,
Oatsmaster is somewhat of a difficult guy to read from a normal standpoint. I've played with him when he was 'obv scum', but turned out to be town. I've also caught him as scum D1. Call it a gut feeling, but I can't identify a decently scummy part of his play. If he's really red, I'll be able to understand him in the grand scheme of things later. Def. not scum to me right now.
JX, your scumread on Mocsta was pretty fail. Yes I have a gut townread, but it's not the only thing I'm doing today. All I've seen from you is Mocsta scum gogo 2 lines kill this guy. And then trying to fling shit at djo/oats/snarfs to see where it will stick. You are incredibly wish-washy to say the least. Still waiting for snarfs case to decide if he's worthy to live today.
he took this approach as scum in normal mini 4 as well
(flung shit every where)
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On February 08 2013 01:46 yamato77 wrote:
Hold on guys.
Why are people switching off JX?
I need to know why he's not dying if people want to lynch other people.
Answer:
On February 08 2013 01:39 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 01:35 yamato77 wrote:
Oats, I know you think Snarf is mafia and all, and I agree on a certain level, but is he really a better lynch than JX today? I have a different problem. I listed before I thought either prplhz or palmar was mafia, as I doubt palmar vote on prplhz is a bus. I checked the Mafia LIX game, and yes I concede the posts are radically different. I still have issues with some of his play this game (specifically lack of information sharing) butwilling to put prplhz as null for now What im getting at is; if prplhz is null/town; and palmar is pushing his vote; perhaps palmar should be the candidate... thoughts? i.e. if palmar is of the value everyone is proposing, he should have got prplhz was town via meta like all you guys... that he didnt, is perhaps a concern?
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On February 08 2013 01:41 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 01:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On February 08 2013 01:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
Mr CC
Why are we not lynching Palmer today, given that he has produced NOTHING of actual worth? I heard somewhere that he is this amazing entity that has the propensity to catch scum lurking within the shadows. Let's say JX and Palmar are both town. Both are lurky / useless / kind of the same thing right meow. Who would you rather lose? JX. If Palmar is still being useless as all hell we can deal with him later. But if he's town It would be a huge detriment to lose him. Agreed. but this game doesnt have night kill and with nomination mechanic, we never have to vote him.to me thats better than having bodyguards as mayor; he coudl be the most pro-town motherfucker ever and not have to worry about being lynch. Why isnt he doing this?
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On February 07 2013 20:52 prplhz wrote:
I'm stuck at page 20 but I just want to say that lynching Palmar is silly right now. First of all he could just be busy and in a trolly mood and once he snaps out of it he could be really useful to us. Second of all, he promised us something concrete very soon: the day 2 plan to ravage scum. Come day 2 and he doesn't have anything then he's lying and then we just lynch him, ezpz.
@ prplhz
Did you change your mind about palmar ? Are you not concerned that he still wants to lynch you ?
The problem with reporting his lynch tomorrow is that we don't get to decide who to lynch day 2. I don't see Palmar getting the nomination at this point.
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JX idk what you want me to justify so much. My townie meta read on Oats?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=385389
in that newbie I was doc, he was scum. Lynched his face into the ground D1 for his behavior, flipping reads, etc. He is more docile this game with actually some logical thought process behind his posts. Not the best lynch for today by far.
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If you think JX might be mafia at all, you should not want to lynch Palmar with him. JX should die before we even think about killing Palmar on day 1. Yes, he's a good lynch. No, he's not better than JX.
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Tell me what's wrong with my case on oats.
It's hardly random shit flinging when you have to refute it by saying "yeah man sometimes oats is obv scum"
I have nothing on snarf or Djo.
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