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Snarfs
Canada1006 Posts
On February 06 2013 14:27 Oatsmaster wrote: Hey Snarfs, Do you have any conclusions about the 'discussion' between me and Mocsta relating to our alignments/ Not really being swayed either way. Looks like standard day 1 banter. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Tell me more about yourself, How many games have you played, which alignment do you like to play, are you scum or town? | ||
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Snarfs
Canada1006 Posts
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Snarfs
Canada1006 Posts
On February 06 2013 14:36 Oatsmaster wrote: Hey, Tell me more about yourself, How many games have you played, which alignment do you like to play, are you scum or town? I played a few games last year, maybe 5 or 6? Mafia'a pretty much all you'll find if you search my post history, and you'll be able to tell quite quickly from those that I hate playing scum. Which makes me a happy camper this game  . Now tell me what you know of VE from past experience and what you think of his disappearing act. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
I think that its odd that he just disappears but timezonewise, its not all that suspicious. What I do know about VE is that he likes playing scum, so yeah. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
Regarding the setup: All we ever have to go on, in any game, is what we control - being the lynch. There are no night kills for us to analyze, but the nomination phase gives us information in a similar fashion - everyone scum chooses during the nomination phase was chosen to further the scum agenda. Whether it's to get them lynched or to make town feel a certain way about those who don't get lynched. So all we can do is lynch the scummiest player today. Tomorrow we'll decide who to lynch after scum decide who to nominate. We decide who to lynch today first and decide what to do tomorrow tomorrow. Something I'd like to stress however is that it's going to be very important in this setup to LYNCH LURKERS WITH AN UNHOLY FURY. We have no vigs to hope to clear them out, so it's every townie's DUTY to make sure they're not lynchbait by lurking like a fuck. I don't care how busy you think you are. It doesn't take long to contribute meaningfully. I will lynch you if you lurk. Be warned. @Snarfs I know it seems like I'm omnipresent sometimes, but I'm still human bro. I still have NEEDS. I don't LIVE at work bra, I need to go HOME sometimes too. You know...the place where you hang your hat? What you apparently perceive as dastardly disappearance is nothing more than unlucky timing. We were all joking around when I left, I thought they were cool to play alone together. :/ We're lacking WAY too many people to start throwing fingers around now. If you have some sort of valid reason for thinking I'm scum then cool, whatever let's hear it. If you're really just pissed about me not stopping Mocsta/Oats from "shitting up the thread" as you say, how about you take it up with them instead? I'm not responsible for their posts. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
I just played a game with him (as a replacement - Normal Mini Mafia IV) he died Night 1. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
You know, the last person I saw that was so adamant about lynching lurkers was scum. I wonder what that makes you :| | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On February 06 2013 15:02 Oatsmaster wrote: Something I'd like to stress however is that it's going to be very important in this setup to LYNCH LURKERS WITH AN UNHOLY FURY. We have no vigs to hope to clear them out, so it's every townie's DUTY to make sure they're not lynchbait by lurking like a fuck. I don't care how busy you think you are. It doesn't take long to contribute meaningfully. I will lynch you if you lurk. Be warned. You know, the last person I saw that was so adamant about lynching lurkers was scum. I wonder what that makes you :| Was that person scum in a game that has no nightkills and only lynches and no vigs Oats? | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
(I note the irony here) | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
BUT, since when do nightkills get rid of lurkers, And 80-90% of the games dont have a vig. Im interested, Why are lurkers such a big deal in this game VE? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
In this setup we're uniquely NOT able to clear out lurkers from the lynch pool (because there are no blues). Therefor we can ONLY lynch them to divine their alignment. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
Oats is right. Its very easy for scum to come in, commit to a lurker policy lynch. I want to see some logic behind this reasoning. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
*sigh* | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
That goes for everyone, but I singled out Mocsta because I think his posts ARE insightful - I just want to wait on that particular discussion. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On February 06 2013 15:26 VisceraEyes wrote: Mocsta I'm intrigued by your posts regarding the nomination phase. However I'm going to suggest/request that you save it for AFTER the dawn phase of D2 so that scum aren't given instructions on how you're going to view nominees they put up. It's going to be clear enough after D2 because we're going to have to lynch into their choices - but if we can go all of D1 without speculating on who and why scum will send up D2 I think that's going to be a net gain for town. I disagree. On February 06 2013 12:04 Mocsta wrote: The choices scum have for nomination will be based on the status quo of the ODD days; so it is paramount to consider ODD day play for EVEN day nomination. Having said that, I am going to hold off further strategy talk due to: fuck all people online. Need some others to contribute. @Snarf What do you make of VE wanting to bury all nomination mechanic talk till the nominations are released? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
What you are doing, is basically setup speculating and you should stop Mocsta. In this setup we're uniquely NOT able to clear out lurkers from the lynch pool (because there are no blues). I dont understand this. Lurkers are a problem in other games too, and mostly they cant get cleared either. I havent seen you do this in any other game so far VE, even though lurkers are also a problem there. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
You sound like a whiny chick to me, who hears one word she doesnt like, and zones off to everything else. I AM NOT SETUP SPECULATING. The fuckn setup is 9 town, 4 mafia. I am saying we need to make scum work hard to become read as town, I am saying good play Day1 is to emphasise quality posts, and avoid being a lurker I am saying, bad play Day1, is going to make nominations for scum in Day2 much fuckn easier. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Dont talk about who scum will nominate. Scumhunt. Whatever anyone else wants to do, thats their problem. I cant force them to 'look' townie. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
At any rate, I'm not trying to bury anything, or I wouldn't even be engaging you in this conversation. I'm just trying to understand your motives and give reasoning for my stance. | ||
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