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On January 23 2013 06:46 annul wrote: i am saying if i were a mafia mason i would love to be sheriff. that is what i said... you can tell because, gasp, that is what is written there. are you telling me you wouldn't want the sheriff role as a townmason? Because unless you do nowhere cares about that statement. Of course both mafia and town want that position... | ||
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On January 23 2013 07:17 sandroba wrote: I thought these 2 posts were pretty townie. I would think annul wouldn't mind being ignored as scum. disagree on that one btw. The first one could just as well be a "see guys? I'M DOING SOMETHING!" I can easily see reasoning for posts like that as both mafia and town. | ||
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On January 23 2013 10:26 DearestSnot wrote: I was RBed. TOAD ARE YOU SRS DID YOU TARGET ME OVER SANDRO?! jesus you better have been on sandro and RBed or I will be really mad I told Sandroba I should protect him, he kept on saying "nah, protect WBG. Mafia won't shoot me, they know you're masoned with me, protect WBG instead!" and I eventually gave in | ||
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On a sidenote, want the rest of the logs from Sandro and me? | ||
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On January 23 2013 13:23 AxleGreaser wrote: Sandro pisses me off. Dead men tell no tales. If only the live ones had said more i would know what to make of your claim. what do you mean? If I had lied about that mason thingy or the logs he would have told you I guess... | ||
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On January 23 2013 13:36 AxleGreaser wrote: Well yes he would have told eveyone if they were fabricated. My questions were little more specific. they asked about what he had gleened from you in that real time discussion. How hard he had pressed and whtehr he was as lazy in quizing you in masion thread as he was in the game. All those things would cast doubt or perhaps heap praise on just how townie you are. Now, you tell us but its not in the logs up to the time they were published and confirmed that I told Sandroba I should protect him, he kept on saying "nah, protect WBG. Mafia won't shoot me, they know you're masoned with me, protect WBG instead!" and I eventually gave in : How or when exactly would he have denied this part of the conversation took place? Have you conveniently not noticed that this part is uncorroborated? I have other problems with the basic logic of it too. You argument claims neither you nor sandroba thought ooops dont do that. Sandroba is meant to be good yeah? We both thought mafia wouldn't shoot him because I was masoned with him and telling people so actively that he's town and figured mafia would assume I'm protecting him. So much for reasoning. About the "now we can't prove it"-part. What do you think I should have done differently? Told everyone my plans on who I'm protecting before the night ends just so that Sandroba can confirm it? Because no way in hell would I have done that. | ||
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On January 23 2013 14:02 AxleGreaser wrote: No that would be really Stupid. I expected you to pay attention and think a little bit ahead about what scum might be doing. Bugs called the SHOT Why did Bugs call it like that... surely thats as dumb as what you claim you wouldn't do? It flabbergasted me at first until I thought about it. Now Bugs may have had different idea but this was my best interpretation of it. No Bugs is claiming Bugs and Sand are the two of the best plausible NKs. the townies he hopes know that too. Now if the docs and the jailer all do their own thing they may well double up and expose people and waste powers. Hmm what to do? I know direct them to split. Minimum Chnace of Doc and Sheriff wasting their powers. Until i saw that I thought it was scummy of bugs to do that. In truth i dint know if the call (for who were likely scum targets) was truth. It could be like Vivax seemed to and be overrating your chances. I dont know peoples reputations except in a general way. However it was to me plausible enough that town or scum might believe it... and at worst preserve the two of the best uguarded townies.... Well considering how the mayor votes panned out the target potential of Bugs and Sandroba not be as obvious as it looks. (although in reality and real people liked Sandroba as good player just not the way he played this game) Whatever maybe that scum target rating is true enough. It was only little scummy for Bugs to do that. The most suboptimal thing for townies to do now however is concentrate their protection on either. If Some doc says Nahhhh that Bugs is a crap protect I will go with protecting mayoral candidate X The one obvious thing the Doc should not do is risk wasting the doc by protecting the one person called out for the sheriff to protect.... Somewhat obviously the reverse is true too. The shrriff certainly should not waste the protec by doubling up the protection on the one the doc was called to protect. So Just by chance you just chose the least optimal thing to do AND scum guessed it and Sandroba didnt argue and .... really. So what could you have done well if you and Sandroba were actually talking and thinking Sandroba could have reversed the plan. That gives scum no more info. You're looking at it from the wrong direction... I'm the jailer. I CLEARLY said people need to protect Sand / Gonzaw because I REFUSED to tell people who I'm going to protect and anything bugs says about my protection is a null, if anything it makes me more likely to not do it. So no I don't think I screwed up, if anything bugs should have shut up about it in the first place and let me handle it because... duh I'm the jailer. You're saying it was the least optimal thing to do, which is entirely wrong to say the least. Both Sandro and I agreed tha a protection on Sandro would be wasted after discussing it a bit and thought the most likely scenario for mafia hits would be Goznaw + Bugs (again, I told people to protect Gonzaw as well for that very reason). All you're seeing is a dead Sandro. I basicly told people in the thread I'm not going to protect him and called medics on people. I'm not doing that for shitz and giggles. But whatever I'm going to ignore you from now on because clearly you're the most paranoid and backwards person I've ever seen. Makes no sense talking to you... | ||
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+ Show Spoiler [click me] + [22.01.2013 02:16:36] Erik: I'm going to jail you unless you tell me otherwise [22.01.2013 05:21:05] Sandro Maculan: hey [22.01.2013 05:21:19] Erik: hey [22.01.2013 05:21:21] Sandro Maculan: catching up [22.01.2013 05:21:28] Erik: was asked to post logs [22.01.2013 05:21:35] Erik: and we lynched mafia [22.01.2013 05:21:40] Sandro Maculan: it's k [22.01.2013 05:21:41] Sandro Maculan: nice [22.01.2013 05:21:42] Sandro Maculan: who [22.01.2013 05:21:48] Erik: didn't see a problem with posting them so i did [22.01.2013 05:21:50] Erik: prplhz [22.01.2013 05:21:55] Sandro Maculan: nice [22.01.2013 05:22:03] Erik: that's why they asked because you were defending him somewhat [22.01.2013 05:22:21] Sandro Maculan: i kinda was [22.01.2013 05:22:35] Erik: oh and I am sheriff [22.01.2013 05:22:37] Sandro Maculan: you should jail bugs instead then [22.01.2013 05:22:42] Sandro Maculan: yeah i figured [22.01.2013 05:22:53] Erik: it depends on who ends up being bodyguards i guess [22.01.2013 05:23:38] Erik: I'm actually considering going full bullshit and protect five once for absolute security. I could see mafia go all-in with prlphz flipping mafia and get 2 mafia bodyguards and shoot both elected people [22.01.2013 05:24:28] Sandro Maculan: what [22.01.2013 05:24:49] Sandro Maculan: you can get 5 prots in 1 night? [22.01.2013 05:24:57] Erik: mafia could subsitute both bodyguards [22.01.2013 05:25:15] Erik: which means neither five nor I am protected [22.01.2013 05:25:29] Erik: if they do that they can shoot us, I protect him, he survives and knows 2 mafias [22.01.2013 05:25:37] Sandro Maculan: you can do it 3 times [22.01.2013 05:25:53] Erik: yeah [22.01.2013 05:25:55] Sandro Maculan: just tell me who are the bgs then [22.01.2013 05:25:57] Sandro Maculan: and prot me [22.01.2013 05:26:08] Erik: that might be an idea as well^^ [22.01.2013 05:26:13] Sandro Maculan: i dont think they would do that however [22.01.2013 05:26:19] Erik: yeah I don't either [22.01.2013 05:26:25] Sandro Maculan: i have a simpler way actually [22.01.2013 05:26:30] Erik: but it would be one wasted protect for 100% security [22.01.2013 05:26:43] Sandro Maculan: jail palmar if you think that's a fair chance [22.01.2013 05:26:52] Sandro Maculan: but really i dont think so [22.01.2013 05:27:15] Erik: I don't know their names yet [22.01.2013 05:27:26] Erik: if someone townish shows up that'd be awesome [22.01.2013 05:27:51] Sandro Maculan: if you jail palmar mafia can never do that [22.01.2013 05:28:00] Sandro Maculan: cuz palmar will know the bgs [22.01.2013 05:28:12] Sandro Maculan: and he just lynched prpl so he is ultra likely town [22.01.2013 05:28:18] Erik: yeah [22.01.2013 05:28:33] Erik: that was the whole point about jailing him [22.01.2013 05:28:41] Sandro Maculan: i dont think it's worth it to jail 3 though [22.01.2013 05:28:47] Sandro Maculan: even if mafia does that [22.01.2013 05:28:49] Erik: jail 3? [22.01.2013 05:28:59] Sandro Maculan: if you jail palmar we are ahead by a lot [22.01.2013 05:29:17] Sandro Maculan: oh [22.01.2013 05:29:24] Sandro Maculan: now i realize what you are saying [22.01.2013 05:29:33] Sandro Maculan: i thought you said jail 5 people [22.01.2013 05:29:44] Erik: five like the name [22.01.2013 05:29:49] Erik: palmar [22.01.2013 05:29:52] Sandro Maculan: yeah i understand now [22.01.2013 05:30:12] Sandro Maculan: meh [22.01.2013 05:30:17] Sandro Maculan: i dont think mafia goes all in [22.01.2013 05:30:20] Sandro Maculan: you just claimed mason [22.01.2013 05:30:27] Sandro Maculan: they would have to shoot me you palmar [22.01.2013 05:30:37] Sandro Maculan: and they have 2 shots? [22.01.2013 05:30:40] Erik: idk [22.01.2013 05:30:48] Sandro Maculan: kp is 2 [22.01.2013 05:31:03] Erik: isn't it usually rounded up? [22.01.2013 05:31:13] Sandro Maculan: unless they have a jack and go all in that prot is terrible [22.01.2013 05:31:20] Sandro Maculan: it says 5/2 max 2 [22.01.2013 05:31:27] Sandro Maculan: now we have 4 [22.01.2013 05:31:31] Erik: k that makes sense [22.01.2013 05:31:36] Erik: oh yeah that as well [22.01.2013 05:31:50] Erik: yeah that's the reason I called it a bullshit prot [22.01.2013 05:31:55] Erik: in 99% it's a terrible prot [22.01.2013 05:32:03] Erik: in 1% it's a game win^^ [22.01.2013 05:33:07] Erik: gawd [22.01.2013 05:33:13] Erik: yamato still thinks vivax is mafia [22.01.2013 05:33:34] Erik: vivax made me sheriff instead of people like chez... how could he be mafia [22.01.2013 05:34:50] Erik: annul probably still looks really bad if you look at his posts, but he looks somewhat less bad now that prplhz flipped red balancewise [22.01.2013 05:35:03] Erik: djo also looks a bit better because he was voting me I guess [22.01.2013 05:37:22] Sandro Maculan: people that were voting palmar now look better [22.01.2013 05:37:35] Erik: yeah [22.01.2013 05:37:36] Sandro Maculan: that means i was prob wrong on jx [22.01.2013 05:37:41] Sandro Maculan: and fuba [22.01.2013 05:37:41] Erik: ? [22.01.2013 05:37:41] Sandro Maculan: god [22.01.2013 05:38:09] Sandro Maculan: they voted palmar when palmar was set on lynching prpl [22.01.2013 05:38:25] Erik: austin mentioned that there probably were mafia in the not-palmar-places [22.01.2013 05:38:28] Sandro Maculan: people that voted you actually don't matter much [22.01.2013 05:38:45] Erik: yeah but those who voted austin or chez might be troublesome [22.01.2013 05:48:57] Sandro Maculan: i think you just jail bugs [22.01.2013 05:49:14] Sandro Maculan: pretty likely he is one of the 2 shots [22.01.2013 05:49:18] Sandro Maculan: and tell me the masons [22.01.2013 05:49:33] Erik: you're pretty likely to be shot as well [22.01.2013 05:49:44] Sandro Maculan: if i'm shot you and palmar are not shot [22.01.2013 05:50:08] Sandro Maculan: then you still know masons are prob not both mafia [22.01.2013 05:50:10] Erik: palmar and I should be safe either way [22.01.2013 05:50:40] Sandro Maculan: i dont even think mafia will risk it [22.01.2013 05:50:51] Sandro Maculan: so either way if you dont tell me i think you are fine [22.01.2013 05:51:04] Sandro Maculan: mafia may shoot me but that is not so bad [22.01.2013 05:51:25] Sandro Maculan: cuz i'm not 100% town in peoples eyes so that leaves less room for doubt [22.01.2013 05:51:34] Erik: I don't know what to make of possible medics right now [22.01.2013 05:51:50] Erik: palmar agreed on you beeing town after I posted the logs [22.01.2013 05:53:10] Sandro Maculan: well [22.01.2013 05:53:27] Sandro Maculan: there is also the thing that mafia knows i'm masoned with you [22.01.2013 05:53:34] Sandro Maculan: and that you think i'm town [22.01.2013 05:53:51] Sandro Maculan: so they will prob imagine i'm jailed [22.01.2013 05:54:03] Erik: yeah thought so as well [22.01.2013 05:54:46] Erik: I guess we could make a post telling medics to protect WBG / you [22.01.2013 05:54:56] Sandro Maculan: who else may mafia shoot if not wbg [22.01.2013 05:54:58] Erik: just so that whoever ends up not being jailes gets a medic [22.01.2013 05:55:11] Sandro Maculan: even if they shoot me they will prob shoot bugs aswell [22.01.2013 05:55:40] Erik: maybe gonzaw [22.01.2013 05:55:55] Sandro Maculan: hmm maybe [22.01.2013 05:56:06] Sandro Maculan: gonzaw did defend prpl a bit i think [22.01.2013 05:56:15] Erik: I'd probably shoot him as mafia with the 2ndary shot [22.01.2013 05:56:16] Sandro Maculan: i'm not that convinced he is auto-town [22.01.2013 05:56:33] Erik: and hit wbg with the first hoping I protect you with my jail [22.01.2013 05:57:01] Sandro Maculan: yeah if gonzaw is town those would be the shots i would make as mafia [22.01.2013 05:57:03] Erik: he looks very townish. My sheet actually says "not sure about Gonzaw... looks too good to be true lol" though [22.01.2013 05:57:04] Erik: ^^ [22.01.2013 05:57:21] Sandro Maculan: who is running for mafia [22.01.2013 05:57:28] Sandro Maculan: if gonzaw is town [22.01.2013 05:57:37] Sandro Maculan: austin i think is town [22.01.2013 05:57:41] Sandro Maculan: chez? [22.01.2013 05:57:42] Erik: i'd say prplhz + annul/chez [22.01.2013 05:57:49] Sandro Maculan: annul didnt run [22.01.2013 05:57:54] Erik: he did [22.01.2013 05:57:55] Sandro Maculan: prpl didnt run [22.01.2013 05:58:01] Sandro Maculan: that's not running [22.01.2013 05:58:01] Erik: he just didn't get votes [22.01.2013 05:58:13] Sandro Maculan: the dude who is running prob posted a lot [22.01.2013 05:58:33] Sandro Maculan: they may be mafia, but they were not the mafia main candidate [22.01.2013 05:58:36] Erik: maaaaaybe wbg but I doubt that [22.01.2013 05:58:48] Erik: maybe austin but I doubt that as well [22.01.2013 05:59:01] Sandro Maculan: nah i dont think wbg busses that soon for no reason [22.01.2013 05:59:09] Erik: yeah [22.01.2013 05:59:13] Erik: exactly what I think [22.01.2013 10:18:29] Erik: updated votesheet: http://i.imgur.com/PnFHpMQ.png [22.01.2013 10:18:48] Erik: axle might be wrong [22.01.2013 10:38:02] Erik: and chez should be yellow I guess [22.01.2013 11:00:31] Erik: http://i.imgur.com/BlygxnI.png [22.01.2013 11:00:35] Erik: that's more like it I guess [22.01.2013 19:10:28] Sandro Maculan: hey [22.01.2013 19:10:49] Erik: oh you're back [22.01.2013 19:16:42] Sandro Maculan: yes [22.01.2013 19:16:55] Sandro Maculan: see if you agree with my last post [22.01.2013 19:17:05] Erik: i guess bugs is correct about the jail [22.01.2013 19:17:49] Erik: yeah I agree [22.01.2013 19:17:56] Erik: I'd like annul lynch the most [22.01.2013 19:18:04] Erik: and a bunch oats has done recently looks townisch [22.01.2013 19:18:07] Erik: *townish [22.01.2013 19:18:18] Erik: I really don't see him pushing gonzaw out of all the people if he's mafia [22.01.2013 19:18:41] Sandro Maculan: stutters filter looks so bad too [22.01.2013 19:18:41] Erik: unless of course chez / Annul are both his mates but that's retarded to assume [22.01.2013 19:19:07] Erik: he was one of the guys voting me though [22.01.2013 19:19:18] Erik: that might be a towntell [22.01.2013 19:19:20] Sandro Maculan: man [22.01.2013 19:19:28] Sandro Maculan: voting for you doesnt mean anything [22.01.2013 19:19:39] Sandro Maculan: especially if you believe gonzaw is town [22.01.2013 19:20:03] Sandro Maculan: if mafia was indeed inactive/non influential [22.01.2013 19:20:18] Sandro Maculan: they had to vote for a townie for sheriff anyways and it doesnt matter who it is [22.01.2013 19:20:36] Sandro Maculan: they might aswell go for the one that claimed mason and people think is town [22.01.2013 19:20:47] Erik: guess [22.01.2013 19:20:50] Erik: that's right [22.01.2013 19:26:06] Sandro Maculan: jail bugs for sure [22.01.2013 19:26:18] Erik: yeah guess so [22.01.2013 19:26:18] Sandro Maculan: mafia wont shoot me cuz they think you will jail me [22.01.2013 19:26:25] Sandro Maculan: do you know the bgs? [22.01.2013 19:26:35] Erik: n [22.01.2013 19:26:36] Erik: no [22.01.2013 19:26:48] Sandro Maculan: ? [22.01.2013 19:27:00] Sandro Maculan: bc afk? [22.01.2013 19:27:05] Erik: idk, I asked him [22.01.2013 19:27:21] Erik: i don't even know if I can jail tonight yet [22.01.2013 19:27:38] Sandro Maculan: the way it's worded [22.01.2013 19:27:45] Sandro Maculan: you can jail multiple people each night [22.01.2013 19:27:50] Sandro Maculan: for a total of 3 [22.01.2013 19:28:09] Erik: the way it's worded I can't jail before n2... [22.01.2013 19:28:11] Erik: "You are able to PM me during the day with a player to be incarcerated that night." [22.01.2013 19:28:27] Erik: if I have to pm him during the day I can't pm him before d2 for the n2 protections [22.01.2013 19:28:47] Sandro Maculan: okay dont ask this in the thread [22.01.2013 19:28:56] Sandro Maculan: pm bc about it [22.01.2013 19:29:00] Erik: i did [22.01.2013 19:29:18] Sandro Maculan: no answer yet? [22.01.2013 19:29:24] Erik: yeah [22.01.2013 19:29:26] Erik: ... [22.01.2013 19:29:53] Sandro Maculan: do you have his skype [22.01.2013 19:29:59] Erik: no idea if I'm allowed to tell you that but it was around 16:00 tl time.. [22.01.2013 19:30:04] Erik: no I don't [22.01.2013 19:30:21] Sandro Maculan: Kontakt empfangen von Sandro Maculan [22.01.2013 19:30:52] Erik: is he online? [22.01.2013 19:31:56] Sandro Maculan: yes but set to busy [22.01.2013 19:32:07] Sandro Maculan: sometimes he answers on busy anyway though [22.01.2013 19:32:57] Erik: I could ask palmar if he has the names of the bodyguards yet [22.01.2013 19:40:21] Erik: "I'd like to add that I'm not alone in thinking you're / may be an idiot. Toad thinks so too and I'm sure the vets do." [22.01.2013 19:40:23] Erik: waaaaat [22.01.2013 19:40:27] Erik: I'm not a vet? ;( [22.01.2013 19:40:38] Sandro Maculan: =P [22.01.2013 19:40:48] Erik: sure I'm not Palmar / Sandroba but that's hard to take [22.01.2013 19:40:50] Sandro Maculan: i'm sure he meant the other vets =) [22.01.2013 20:03:02] Sandro Maculan: hmm town has dls [22.01.2013 20:03:20] Sandro Maculan: which means it's quite possible for scum to have jack [22.01.2013 20:03:28] Sandro Maculan: even with the high initial numbers [22.01.2013 20:03:32] Sandro Maculan: depending on town roles [22.01.2013 20:05:43] Erik: dls? [22.01.2013 20:05:53] Erik: oh doublelynches [22.01.2013 20:06:32] Sandro Maculan: yeah [22.01.2013 20:06:38] Sandro Maculan: that grush mason stuff [22.01.2013 20:06:46] Sandro Maculan: would he be so retarded to do that as mafia? [22.01.2013 20:07:14] Erik: idk [22.01.2013 20:07:25] Erik: might have lost motivation once he saw palmer stomping [22.01.2013 20:07:43] Erik: I wouldn't make to much out of it [22.01.2013 20:07:57] Sandro Maculan: hmm [22.01.2013 20:08:06] Sandro Maculan: mafia would choose grush as mason? [22.01.2013 20:08:11] Sandro Maculan: i dont think so [22.01.2013 20:08:26] Sandro Maculan: and if he wanted it i think he would have tried to use it [22.01.2013 20:08:35] Erik: with prplhz dead they might have had to choose grush [22.01.2013 20:08:53] Sandro Maculan: they did it before acording to yamato [22.01.2013 20:09:11] Sandro Maculan: grush masoned him into the day [22.01.2013 20:09:37] Sandro Maculan: and sent one pm after yamato asked him if he was ever going to pm him [22.01.2013 20:11:54] Sandro Maculan: okay maybe vivax is the mafia contender [22.01.2013 20:12:18] Sandro Maculan: he seemed to slow down after he was out of tthe run [22.01.2013 20:12:38] Sandro Maculan: and assuming jx is town him digging up my short bit on JX doesn't look so hot [22.01.2013 23:32:58] Sandro Maculan: I'm gonna go out to a girl's house [22.01.2013 23:33:29] Sandro Maculan: so leave me a msg with w/e you deem important here [22.01.2013 23:33:44] Sandro Maculan: I'ma leave skype on as always [22.01.2013 23:33:54] Sandro Maculan: oh and jail bugs =P [22.01.2013 23:39:40] Erik: I still don't know the bodyguards... I also pm'ed Kurumi but doesn't know them either and I'm sooooo tired right now... Might be I'm not able to tell you the bodyguards Don't think there's anything in there I should edit out so I didn't. Maybe the part about pm'ing BC + Kurumi but I guess I made it pretty obvious that I don't know the bodyguards in the thread as well, so again I really don't see a reason to do so. Might give some insight knowing that Sandro is confirmed town now but we didn't talk about reads that much as you can see. Mostly strategy for night. | ||
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On January 23 2013 14:38 AxleGreaser wrote: I agree you said things in you copy of the logs. I agree its in general bad plan to say what you are going to do. This is why i was concerned that Bugs was doing that. However Accoding to both You and you claim Sandro... If you consider Bugs important enough to protect because he is good at this game. Then wouldn't some doc somewhere think so too. if the docs going to protect someone why would the Doc do the opposite to you and protect Sandro? Yes you should not telegraph your moves to scum. But putting your Sherrif's jail keep in the one place most likely a Doc will as well is silly. But you can divide the protect-able pile in two a bit and try not to screw up by protecting the most likely person the doc if there is one would protect. you assume people listen to what bugs said when telling people what to do with protection. That's the flaw in your logic. Maybe someone was stupid enough to do that, maybe someone listened to what I said and protected randomly into one out of Sandro/Bugs/Sandro like I told people to do and we just got unlikely because they protected Sandro or Goznaw idk. Point is, I'm the jailer. People shouldn't be listening to bugs when trying to figure out where to put their protection, especially if they're trying to "dodge" my jail for maximum effectiveness. People should be paying attention to what I'm saying in that regard because I'm the one who's doing it... | ||
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On January 23 2013 14:52 AxleGreaser wrote: Sorry did you indicate what youd be doing at all? I expect you did not. In the absence of information how can doc try and dodge doubling up with you better than chance? Well if they do the one thing some suggested you should not that would be better than nothing. I was telling people that I'm not going to tell people my target. I was telling people to randomly protect into Sand / WBG / Goznaw. I can't do more than that. Okay let's assume there IS a medic who protected WBG and thought I'd protect Sandro for a sec: Don't listen to other people about what I'm going to do. In most cases someone telling me to protect X makes it more likely I'm NOT going to protect that guy but that's usually not a good way to look at things for you to figure out... instead look at what I post and do what I say. If you can't do that try to ignore everything being said, consider a bunch of people that would be good protections (3-4?) and role a dice... I'm done with this. I can't change this anymore and can't do anything more than telling you guys to listen to me when it comes to my role instead of listening to other people... | ||
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Anyways doublelynch tomorrow should be voted for. | ||
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It's obviously outdated as it's from n1, so keep that in mind. I've made at least 2 adjustements to it I think. | ||
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Probably would like lynching someone else first for today. | ||
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I'm btw not sharing the sheet, it's always just a picture of the most recent one but that goes without saying I guess. | ||
Toadesstern
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You usually don't get to exlplain all your thoughts but instead focus on the most important things so that the thread doesn't turn into a shitfest, which means most of your reads mostly won't be mentioned in the thread at all. If you think you're going to die you should share your reads with town because while we still don't know wether you're correct we at least know you genuinely thought so after people flip town, which is more than we know about people still being alive. And people are wrong a lot after all. Like read the first mason log with Sandro. I said that I think WBG is mafia in there somewhere, which was horrible and there was no reason to think so. If you're wrong people will most likely disagree with you and you can reflect on that + their reasoning. Not to mention that you get to check wether their reasoning makes sense from a town PoV. | ||
Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 23 2013 17:19 Oatsmaster wrote: Wait Toad, how does Gonzaw being scummy mean that we dont lynch Annul? Shouldnt we just lynch people for being scum rather than try to 'game' the setup? yeah probably. I usually have peopel seperated into "vets / not vets" categories and assume that hosts are checking for balance because most people actually do that. I really don't think Annul + gonzaw + prplhz makes that much sense although they're all scummy, which makes me believe I'm most likely wrong on one guy, which makes me think it's risky right now. | ||
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