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On January 25 2013 10:58 yamato77 wrote:
I can't imagine why anyone is taking Vivax's reads even slightly seriously when even a cursory check of my filter reveals that he is flat out lying on some things and wildly misinterpreting others to fit his biased view of my play this game.
This goes for anyone he is "suspicious" of, by the way, which makes me feel like he's being intentionally stupid. If he's town he's a far worse player than I was led to believe. It's difficult for me to make sense of anything he is doing this game. I wish he could just be offed. :/
Then why are you humouring him and talking about that, rather than digesting the new information that we have on everyone else? 
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On January 25 2013 10:28 Oatsmaster wrote:Transparent = GUYS IM NOT SHEEPING, HERE IS THE PROOF!? Mocsta. Im not saying that you were sheeping/why you are against sheeping, Im just wondering why you feel the need to TELL the rest of the thread? Its like scum caring about appearances.
Fair enough. i can see why you took it that way.
I still think I have answered your questions and don't see a need to repeat my feedback again.
And FYI, town do care about appearances, just in a different way to scum. Why.. because if you dont have town cred, its very difficult to get traction on your reads/cases. But these are elementary musings I am more than sure you are aware of.
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I thought the deadline was 1hr ago? or am i getting confused?
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Back. And wrong, it looks like.
On January 25 2013 10:43 FiveTouch wrote:
So, if Broodking and Chezinu are both mafia, they could have got gonzaw into the Sheriff position Day 1. Broodking voted for himself 3 minutes from deadline, and then Chezinu voted for gonzaw. It could be, though, that BKE is just useless and came back to avoid the modkill and vote for himself, and is mafia. prplhz was also on you at the end of voting. He may have wanted to stick and hope to get you to lynch someone else, since you didn't announce until right at deadline, but he + any scumbuddy could have moved gonzaw.
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On January 25 2013 11:05 austinmcc wrote:Back. And wrong, it looks like. Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 10:43 FiveTouch wrote:
So, if Broodking and Chezinu are both mafia, they could have got gonzaw into the Sheriff position Day 1. Broodking voted for himself 3 minutes from deadline, and then Chezinu voted for gonzaw. It could be, though, that BKE is just useless and came back to avoid the modkill and vote for himself, and is mafia. prplhz was also on you at the end of voting. He may have wanted to stick and hope to get you to lynch someone else, since you didn't announce until right at deadline, but he + any scumbuddy could have moved gonzaw.
It's quite confusing, because it seems like it should have been quite possible to get gonzaw into second, yet they didn't. It suggests a lack of organisation, at least.
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Yeah deadline was 1 hour ago,
Why.. because if you dont have town cred, its very difficult to get traction on your reads/cases.
I agree with this statment, but you dont have to mention that you are townie/express townie behaviour to get town 'cred'
Fivetouch was pretty much unanimously read as town without having to mention all that stuff, and just being logical and playing well.
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On January 25 2013 11:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yeah deadline was 1 hour ago,
Why.. because if you dont have town cred, its very difficult to get traction on your reads/cases.
I agree with this statment, but you dont have to mention that you are townie/express townie behaviour to get town 'cred'
Fivetouch was pretty much unanimously read as town without having to mention all that stuff, and just being logical and playing well.
Yeah fair point, but I dont have the experience of FiveTouch, nor the experience of the other vets.
However, I think your missing the point.
The only way for the vets to respect our opinion, is by sharing our thoughts and reasoning - and hopefully they agree with the critical thought; otherwise we are just a vote to them.
I want to be more than just a free vote this game.
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On January 25 2013 11:09 FiveTouch wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 11:05 austinmcc wrote:Back. And wrong, it looks like. On January 25 2013 10:43 FiveTouch wrote:
So, if Broodking and Chezinu are both mafia, they could have got gonzaw into the Sheriff position Day 1. Broodking voted for himself 3 minutes from deadline, and then Chezinu voted for gonzaw. It could be, though, that BKE is just useless and came back to avoid the modkill and vote for himself, and is mafia. prplhz was also on you at the end of voting. He may have wanted to stick and hope to get you to lynch someone else, since you didn't announce until right at deadline, but he + any scumbuddy could have moved gonzaw. It's quite confusing, because it seems like it should have been quite possible to get gonzaw into second, yet they didn't. It suggests a lack of organisation, at least.
Thats a good point.
if prplhz swapped over to gonzaw.. gonzaw woulda been sheriff..
but do you think it would have been worth the heat of a last minute vote swap/association? I dont think so.
Especially considering it was already clear that there was a minimum 50% chance you would be lynching prplhz.
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Im not disagreeing with original thought, Im disagreeing with you expressing that what you are saying is original thought.
Its like if you get an A in class and tell everybody that you are really good at that class. You should just let your words speak for themselves.
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Night 2
It was a decision easily made. The jack had run out of tricks far earlier than he had imagined. Gun in hand, phone in the other, he prayed a silent prayer and let the mobs wrath befall him.
Gonzaw the mafia jack mason has been killed.
double lynch was also activated
22.5 hours till day.
Sorry for the lateness of the post, I have been out of town and away from a computer for the last day.
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On January 25 2013 10:43 FiveTouch wrote:
So, if Broodking and Chezinu are both mafia, they could have got gonzaw into the Sheriff position Day 1. Broodking voted for himself 3 minutes from deadline, and then Chezinu voted for gonzaw. It could be, though, that BKE is just useless and came back to avoid the modkill and vote for himself, and is mafia.
Anyone could have got gonzaw into sheriff position, but no one did. Pretty moot speculation.
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perhaps prplhz not voting for gonzaw does indicate disorganization, but bigger than that, it indicates fear.
prplhz clearly feared outting gonzaw as scum if he voted him because he was guaranteed to be dead. I wouldn't have risked it if I were scum in that situation.
However I think it's pretty likely Chezinu is mafia for that reason, since he wasn't under suspicion. No one would suspect him voting gonzaw if he just passed it off as trolling.
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On January 25 2013 11:36 DearestSnot wrote:
perhaps prplhz not voting for gonzaw does indicate disorganization, but bigger than that, it indicates fear.
prplhz clearly feared outting gonzaw as scum if he voted him because he was guaranteed to be dead. I wouldn't have risked it if I were scum in that situation.
However I think it's pretty likely Chezinu is mafia for that reason, since he wasn't under suspicion. No one would suspect him voting gonzaw if he just passed it off as trolling.
The problem is it didn't make gonzaw sheriff, and actually with how late it was it had almost 0% chance of making him sheriff. Why make the vote at all?
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Theory Crafting
With this double lynch.
Is the intention to try and hit 2 top scum reads... or 1 top scum read and one on the fence
(e.g. a guy like Chezinu sits on the fence for me)
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On January 25 2013 11:37 FiveTouch wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 11:36 DearestSnot wrote:
perhaps prplhz not voting for gonzaw does indicate disorganization, but bigger than that, it indicates fear.
prplhz clearly feared outting gonzaw as scum if he voted him because he was guaranteed to be dead. I wouldn't have risked it if I were scum in that situation.
However I think it's pretty likely Chezinu is mafia for that reason, since he wasn't under suspicion. No one would suspect him voting gonzaw if he just passed it off as trolling. The problem is it didn't make gonzaw sheriff, and actually with how late it was it had almost 0% chance of making him sheriff. Why make the vote at all?
that's not true, Chezinu himself admitted he wanted to get gonzaw elected over Toad.
Also he simply needed 1 vote. If there was some kind of communication problem (not that unlikely) then there might have been a second scum (maybe even BKE) who was supposed to vote gonzaw but didn't.
No one would really even know.
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On January 25 2013 11:41 Mocsta wrote:
Theory Crafting
With this double lynch.
Is the intention to try and hit 2 top scum reads... or 1 top scum read and one on the fence
(e.g. a guy like Chezinu sits on the fence for me)
Chezinu is up there for me. Gonzaw was pretty high too for me, especially after how he responded to the NKs.
That's why I pushed them both over Oats today, but the town resisted both. Stop resisting good lynches :p
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On January 25 2013 11:44 DearestSnot wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 11:41 Mocsta wrote:
Theory Crafting
With this double lynch.
Is the intention to try and hit 2 top scum reads... or 1 top scum read and one on the fence
(e.g. a guy like Chezinu sits on the fence for me) Chezinu is up there for me. Gonzaw was pretty high too for me, especially after how he responded to the NKs. That's why I pushed them both over Oats today, but the town resisted both. Stop resisting good lynches :p
I'd love to, but that doesn't seem to be in the cards
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On January 25 2013 11:43 DearestSnot wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 11:37 FiveTouch wrote:On January 25 2013 11:36 DearestSnot wrote:
perhaps prplhz not voting for gonzaw does indicate disorganization, but bigger than that, it indicates fear.
prplhz clearly feared outting gonzaw as scum if he voted him because he was guaranteed to be dead. I wouldn't have risked it if I were scum in that situation.
However I think it's pretty likely Chezinu is mafia for that reason, since he wasn't under suspicion. No one would suspect him voting gonzaw if he just passed it off as trolling. The problem is it didn't make gonzaw sheriff, and actually with how late it was it had almost 0% chance of making him sheriff. Why make the vote at all? that's not true, Chezinu himself admitted he wanted to get gonzaw elected over Toad. Also he simply needed 1 vote. If there was some kind of communication problem (not that unlikely) then there might have been a second scum (maybe even BKE) who was supposed to vote gonzaw but didn't. No one would really even know.
Im 100% sure this indicates a troll up to the lynch:
On January 22 2013 09:55 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 09:54 BroodKingEXE wrote:
My bad guys something came up, so I had to take care of it
Vote:BroodKingEXE since I have no clue what is going on. you need to vote in voting thread. So last minute voting.. who to vote for...
But even so the fact that gonzaw never got the slot makes it a moot point.
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On January 25 2013 11:43 DearestSnot wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 11:37 FiveTouch wrote:On January 25 2013 11:36 DearestSnot wrote:
perhaps prplhz not voting for gonzaw does indicate disorganization, but bigger than that, it indicates fear.
prplhz clearly feared outting gonzaw as scum if he voted him because he was guaranteed to be dead. I wouldn't have risked it if I were scum in that situation.
However I think it's pretty likely Chezinu is mafia for that reason, since he wasn't under suspicion. No one would suspect him voting gonzaw if he just passed it off as trolling. The problem is it didn't make gonzaw sheriff, and actually with how late it was it had almost 0% chance of making him sheriff. Why make the vote at all? that's not true, Chezinu himself admitted he wanted to get gonzaw elected over Toad. Also he simply needed 1 vote. If there was some kind of communication problem (not that unlikely) then there might have been a second scum (maybe even BKE) who was supposed to vote gonzaw but didn't. No one would really even know.
So what? He voted right at the last minute. Were 2 mafia really supposed to vote for gonzaw right at the deadline? Simply from what we've seen so far this game that seems incredibly unlikely.
Two people voting for a candidate right at the last minute seems an extremely sketchy idea. Would you advocate it as mafia, or think it ridiculous and stupid?
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On January 25 2013 11:44 DearestSnot wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 11:41 Mocsta wrote:
Theory Crafting
With this double lynch.
Is the intention to try and hit 2 top scum reads... or 1 top scum read and one on the fence
(e.g. a guy like Chezinu sits on the fence for me) Chezinu is up there for me. Gonzaw was pretty high too for me, especially after how he responded to the NKs. That's why I pushed them both over Oats today, but the town resisted both. Stop resisting good lynches :p
Thanks for replying but not sure if you addressed the question?
Day 3 I believe we have a double lynch (as 12 voted for it)
I am asking, with a double lynch is the best play to put up the two top scum reads,
or to put on the table the 50/50s (to me Chez is a 50/50)
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