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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22408 Posts
January 24 2013 23:47 GMT
#2321
Yeah I saw what you meant, he said he didn't mason anybody.

If that's true then it's strange for him to waste the role like that.
Let's just see what happens I guess.
DearestSnot
Profile Joined January 2013
Germany200 Posts
January 24 2013 23:48 GMT
#2322
I don't see gonzaw being town in this situation.

He'd be kicking and screaming if he were town. (likewise, when he was pressured earlier in the day he didn't do fuck all)

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22408 Posts
January 24 2013 23:54 GMT
#2323
The good news: With the jack dying it will be 2 KP instead of 3.

It surprises me how axle, austin and gonzaw manage to communicate so little while posting so much.
Guess it's a preference.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22408 Posts
January 24 2013 23:58 GMT
#2324
The bad news: It won't surprise me if Toad doesn't protect me tonight and I get shot. Considering how he let sandro get shot and that he's likely mafia in my eyes.

At least I won't have the burden of being super tryhard in this town when the scum clearly has better and more active players.

Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
January 25 2013 00:05 GMT
#2325
On January 25 2013 08:58 Vivax wrote:
The bad news: It won't surprise me if Toad doesn't protect me tonight and I get shot. Considering how he let sandro get shot and that he's likely mafia in my eyes.

At least I won't have the burden of being super tryhard in this town when the scum clearly has better and more active players.


Eh, there are quite a few situations where RBing you still wouldn't be the best play from a town perspective.

Also "At least I won't have the burden of being super tryhard in this town when the scum clearly has better and more active players;" no, don't do that
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
January 25 2013 00:06 GMT
#2326
OK im back.. caught up to the 15 pages over night

(1) I disagree with Yamato defense of Oats; I will address this during Night phase due to point (2)

(2) This Vivax stuff is doing my head in.. I have PM the host to confirm if DT give out role information or just alignment check. awaiting response (i doubt I will get one in time)

I do not like the way Gonzaw handled the accusation; and has disappeared as well since. Doesnt matter if he is lazy, normally town put up a fight if mislynched (and he certainyl didnt rage quit)... and if it is heading to mislynch I thought they provide reads etc to aid town post-mislynch.

None of this is happening.

I am swapping my vote to Gonzaw due to Vivax claim... and will address yamato during night phase.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
January 25 2013 00:11 GMT
#2327
Mocsta if you get that answer, keep it to yourself or ask it in the thread. Don't get modkilled accidentally over something stupid (just a heads up since you had issues in XXXIV).
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22408 Posts
January 25 2013 00:12 GMT
#2328
On January 25 2013 09:05 Stutters695 wrote:

Eh, there are quite a few situations where RBing you still wouldn't be the best play from a town perspective.

Also "At least I won't have the burden of being super tryhard in this town when the scum clearly has better and more active players;" no, don't do that


In this case I would think it's the best play.

Toad said there is another DT, since that DT is unknown and his check is supposed to "go off", he can just jail me and there will still be one DT working right? For now I'm the only 100% confirmed town (after the gonzaw flip)

But yeah, I apologize for the bitterness. This day was really tiring for me cause no one except the guy who was willing to get lynched got a read on gonzaw right, and I banged my head like a madman against this concrete wall of a town to let them see that gonzaw is scum without claiming.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22408 Posts
January 25 2013 00:13 GMT
#2329
And it didn't work no matter how hard I tried.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
January 25 2013 00:16 GMT
#2330
Mods, if a DT checked a mafia that held roles, jack + mason; can you please confirm what the check would return? I assume it would be mafia OR Jack + Mason
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
January 25 2013 00:17 GMT
#2331
On January 25 2013 09:12 Vivax wrote:
Toad said there is another DT, since that DT is unknown and his check is supposed to "go off", he can just jail me and there will still be one DT working right? For now I'm the only 100% confirmed town (after the gonzaw flip)
.


Your not confirmed town in my eyes. If you hit a second mafia then I will reconsider..

With your play so far im not ruling out a bus.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22408 Posts
January 25 2013 00:19 GMT
#2332
LOL Mocsta. If you are town you should go play tetris.

A bus, right.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
January 25 2013 00:25 GMT
#2333
On January 25 2013 03:25 gonzaw wrote:
If this was a "legit" frame/attempt to misslynch me it's weird as fuck because "jack mason" doesn't make any sense.

So gonzaw throws in the frame stuff to potentially play some WIFOM (In my last game (played scum).. we had already discussed if any of us was cop checked, we would play the frame card.. just like Gonzaw did now.. its a WIFOM bomb and very hard to dispute with the information in the thread)

Whats interesting however is his initial response to being under the pump
On January 25 2013 03:24 gonzaw wrote:
WTF?

That's so obviously bullshit. I didn't mason anybody at all that doesn't make sense?

Wow holy shit let me think about this

On January 25 2013 03:40 gonzaw wrote:
I am also a VT, which doesn't matter at all anyways so might as well claim.

If I was VT. I would know straight away I been framed.. “hey guys I didn’t mason anybody.. im a vt”

It takes him 15 min to post he is a VT.. this is suspect (if he was framed)

Now, if we assume the frame is debuffed. This is interesting too
On January 23 2013 10:36 gonzaw wrote:
Kind of saw this coming to be honest (except the sandro kill).
Unless some of them were a vig shot.

Oats, you seem to be active, why haven't you addressed my response to your "case"?


Everyone was shocked ppl like JX were killed.. and his response is “I saw this coming” and immediately has the clarity of mind to assume vig…
This is fishy as, and to me, with the jack check, makes sense.. he was already prepared to throw out vig before the kills occurred.

Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
January 25 2013 00:27 GMT
#2334
On January 25 2013 09:19 Vivax wrote:
LOL Mocsta. If you are town you should go play tetris.

A bus, right.


Considering the accusations you have been throwing around the past 36hours - by your standards- my consideration of bus is tame and safe.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22408 Posts
January 25 2013 00:29 GMT
#2335
Why do you first post that I am likely to be bussing gonzaw and then post the reasons for why you think he is likely mafia?

Why don't you go analyze his slip regarding yamato and yamatos slips instead?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22408 Posts
January 25 2013 00:33 GMT
#2336
Anyway, it's a pointless post. You try to make it look like you have some influence regarding gonzaw when you didn't do jack shit.
Townies did what they had to do, they voted gonzaw without trying hard to make reasons of their own up of why he's scum.

This way, when someone checks your filter and skims it ignoring the context, they will think you posted a good point about gonzaw (cause it is) and it makes you look less suspicious.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
January 25 2013 00:33 GMT
#2337
I didnt say you were likely bussing anyone.

I said I havent ruled it out, thus you are not confirmed town to me.... its pretty clear

As for the slips; I dont base too much on those, its usually town who falsely slip due to not proof checking; whereas mafia are much more inclined to proof-read and re-read.

So I was looking at behaviour;and he was the one who threw out being framed, and he was the one who threw out a vig hit..very curious, and considering he never followed it up or set any questions to follow up with it; I can only interpret it as non-town motivated information designed as WIFOM.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
January 25 2013 00:35 GMT
#2338
On January 25 2013 09:33 Vivax wrote:
This way, when someone checks your filter and skims it ignoring the context, they will think you posted a good point about gonzaw (cause it is) and it makes you look less suspicious.

Thank you for having the balls to admit that Vivax. Regardless of your behaviour this game, that means something to me
(no sarcasm intended)


And I disagree.. I been asleep the past 6 hours, caught up the thread, and made my own decision to swap to gonzaw.. i didnt sheep. the information i provided was original thought... thats a huge different.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
January 25 2013 00:36 GMT
#2339
Vivax, people like you is why LVIII was such a bad game, IT WAS GOING SO WELL...

Grush, what does this mean?
On January 24 2013 08:18 grush57 wrote:
Hello.
I masoned yamato because I thought he was town.
Annul shouldn't be lynched today sillywillies.

Do you think that annul is town?

Vivax, the way you presented the check was very odd and now, everyone is setup speculating, IE no useful alignment indicative posts.

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
January 25 2013 00:37 GMT
#2340

And I disagree.. I been asleep the past 6 hours, caught up the thread, and made my own decision to swap to gonzaw.. i didnt sheep. the information i provided was original thought... thats a huge different.

Mocsta, why do you feel that its important to express your non-sheepiness?
No gg, No skill.
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