EPTTL Mafia LIX - Page 115
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Vivax
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Vivax
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I think I'll start writing random stories. | ||
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
On January 25 2013 06:36 Vivax wrote: You underestimate the power of waffles in making my reads but clearly the power of starsenses are much stronger | ||
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Vivax
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On January 25 2013 06:39 Vivax wrote: We should join our mystic forces. Please no. | ||
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
IT IS ALREADY DONE | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
Do you think that Gonzaw is a mafia mason, was framed, or that you have linked up with a Decepticon? Or, some other option that nobody has suggested yet but would explain things. | ||
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
Mafia mason maybe, I don't think Vivax was lying so he is probably some kind of scum. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On January 25 2013 06:47 grush57 wrote: Well I don't think there would be a high chance of him being framed, he was pretty townie so I doubt they would use a frame on him, and if Vivax was right and we don't lynch him mafia will probably kill vivax. Mafia mason maybe, I don't think Vivax was lying so he is probably some kind of scum. Alright. Do you believe that the teenage mutant ninja turtles must be normal turtles who turtle around in some ooze, or are you okay with them being aliens? | ||
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Vivax
22303 Posts
A strong acid is an acid that dissociates completely. That means that the reaction is irreversible and the acid decades completely into the ions of which it consists. HCL → H⁺ + Cl⁻ according to Arrhenius. HCL + H20 → H3O⁺ + Cl⁻ according to Brønsted & Lowry Considering the calculation of the constant of equilibrium Kc = [A] * [B] / [AB], with the respective variables being the concentrations of reagents and products expressed in molarity, same can be applied to the strong acid. Ka = [H3O⁺] * [Cl] / [HCl] * [H2O] Given that water is assumed to be present in abundance, its concentration can be considered constant. Ka = [H3O⁺] * [Cl] / [HCl] Since it dissociates completely, [HCl] becomes 0 over time, and the concentrations of [Cl] and [H3O] both correspond to the concentration of the dissociated [HCl]. The concentration of HCl corresponds to the concentration of protonated hydrogen ions in solution. I think we should lynch yamato tomorrow. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18282 Posts
On January 25 2013 06:51 austinmcc wrote: Alright. Do you believe that the teenage mutant ninja turtles must be normal turtles who turtle around in some ooze, or are you okay with them being aliens? I request a modkill for austinmcc for even asking such an outrageous question. They are MUTANT turtles. They were mutated by turtling around in ooze. Michael Bay is an idiot. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
Is anyone around that isn't Vivax or Acro? Is anyone interested in considering a frame? I've got to run to dinner soon, may or may not be back before lynch, but I keep refreshing and am getting this sinking feeling that everyone slapped a vote down and zoned out, waiting for the lynch. | ||
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DearestSnot
Germany200 Posts
I think everyone should really reconsider Chezinu. I am still not feeling like people really are considering him. He's a weird player in that most people simply will ignore a lot of what he says, but I personally don't find that conducive to actually learning how to read him. He is displaying a stark contrast in his game here to his game in LVIII, and his only real activity recently has been throwing dirt on my case and saying that I am not to be trusted, contradicting what I have to say, etc. He hasn't put forth any reads and he certainly doesn't seem interested in telling us who he thinks the lynch should be. Now, he kinda gets an excuse out of that, since gonzaw is most certainly going to die. We have only a few hours left in day 2, and any player who, at this point, like BKE or Chezinu, has no reads, is probably scum. | ||
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Vivax
22303 Posts
Frankly, I don't think he's mafia. But sometimes a townie needs his ass on the line to start playing like you want to. Marv renounced on pursuing him for a lie that has popped up earlier in the thread, until he reveals more we'll remain quite in the dark. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On January 25 2013 07:19 DearestSnot wrote: Because I was voting oats before switching to gonzaw, oats is still my strongest read, and I'm still not down with the idea of leaving him up just because he's a bodyguard. why are you voting Oats? wtf? I think everyone should really reconsider Chezinu. I am still not feeling like people really are considering him. He's a weird player in that most people simply will ignore a lot of what he says, but I personally don't find that conducive to actually learning how to read him. He is displaying a stark contrast in his game here to his game in LVIII, and his only real activity recently has been throwing dirt on my case and saying that I am not to be trusted, contradicting what I have to say, etc. He hasn't put forth any reads and he certainly doesn't seem interested in telling us who he thinks the lynch should be. Now, he kinda gets an excuse out of that, since gonzaw is most certainly going to die. We have only a few hours left in day 2, and any player who, at this point, like BKE or Chezinu, has no reads, is probably scum. I can recognize that it's ... not the best thought process to have, but I'm resistant to the idea of lynching someone who hasn't done ANYTHING really, even when that's more or less the basis for lynching them, this early - BKE, Chez, Grush. Holding out hope for a/some vigis or JOATs. As to Chez, we have more to go on there than with the other players - he has been involved in at least two masonings, if everyone is telling the truth. That should give us more to go on, and the masons he was with can share their thoughts at some point. If we're going to go after a heavy lurker, I'd prefer a not-Chezinu, because it seems there's more to Chezinu than just what's been in thread. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
On January 25 2013 07:09 austinmcc wrote: Thread got so dead and I don't want to spam it up. Is anyone around that isn't Vivax or Acro? Is anyone interested in considering a frame? I've got to run to dinner soon, may or may not be back before lynch, but I keep refreshing and am getting this sinking feeling that everyone slapped a vote down and zoned out, waiting for the lynch. I'm here. Just... thinking. I feel like it would be kind of ridiculous for Vivax to be lying about his role at this point in the game. Most people seem to think he's town, despite his play, myself included. I still think he is. But imagining him as scum fakeclaiming to lie like this after most of the thread finds him town is... doubtful. So I'd say that I don't think vivax is scum. A framer, I suppose, is a possibility. I considered it lightly, and dismissed it because I found the role itself to be an unlikely one used to frame. Now I'm giving it more consideration. The possibilities are: (1) gonzaw is a scum jack + mason who didn't use his mason power for two days, and (2) mafia, whoever they are, have decided that jack + mason is the best frame they could give someone. This has me going around in circles, because it comes back to the question of "would mafia not use their mason powers for some reason?" If (1), then why would he not have used the power? If (2), then why did scum think we would believe that he was a mason that didn't use his power? Now here's what makes me believe (1) over (2). If he was framed, then scum's plan has succeeded. They have a red check, on someone that many people were questioning throughout the day. They, for some reason, framed him with a role that would be most questionable, but no one has explained the answer to the question. It feels too half-assed for a frame that succeeded in all matters of chance related to it. They framed gonzaw, Vivax investigated gonzaw. These were the variables, and they fell properly. Why hasn't the nail been driven in? ...Though I suppose it could be meant simply as a distraction from one of the other top lynch contenders during D1/N1. But if so, why choose such a silly role? Say he's framer, and there's far less doubt. On that note, Do all millers show up as goons to DT checks, or are they assigned roles as well? | ||
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DearestSnot
Germany200 Posts
On January 25 2013 07:24 austinmcc wrote: Because I was voting oats before switching to gonzaw, oats is still my strongest read, and I'm still not down with the idea of leaving him up just because he's a bodyguard. I can recognize that it's ... not the best thought process to have, but I'm resistant to the idea of lynching someone who hasn't done ANYTHING really, even when that's more or less the basis for lynching them, this early - BKE, Chez, Grush. Holding out hope for a/some vigis or JOATs. As to Chez, we have more to go on there than with the other players - he has been involved in at least two masonings, if everyone is telling the truth. That should give us more to go on, and the masons he was with can share their thoughts at some point. If we're going to go after a heavy lurker, I'd prefer a not-Chezinu, because it seems there's more to Chezinu than just what's been in thread. so you're encouraging mafia to not do anything, is that what I'm supposed to understand from this post? You STILL want to lynch Oats despite the fact that 1. We pretty much have to kill gonzaw/vivax. 2. This is a strong indication that Oats is not actually mafia. Think about it, if gonzaw is scum why would he run on a platform that preferred lynching Oats to prplhz? The only possible answer to that is all 3 were scum, but that idea is so preposterous that I can't believe anyone would ever seriously consider it. Secondly, you state a bunch of shit about not being willing to lynch people who aren't doing anything, when that's basically the modus operandi of scum this game. Just look at prplhz and gonzaw, neither of them did jack shit. In fact, it's what scum do in MOST games. They sit around and pretend to do shit when in reality they aren't doing anything at all. So why the aversion to lynching players like Chezinu and BKE when as town you expect them to formulate reads? Why encourage that type of play? Why encourage mafia to continue to lurk and noob townies to continue to do nothing? | ||
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