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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 25 2013 04:19 Stutters695 wrote: What lie? Maybe I'm not understanding, but isn't a jack mason return a valid result? it is... he said it's a jack who used his mason powers. That's the whole reason why everyone was so confused because isntead of just telling us what he got as a result he kept on talking about what he "thought" he found... | ||
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Vivax
22080 Posts
@ stutters Look at it this way: Oats, the probable town, immediately believed my claim cause of the timing. Toad, FT and yamato attacked it like crazy. Austin went a little less hyped about it, but he joined in doing so. Just saying, man, just saying...subjective you know. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 25 2013 04:22 FiveTouch wrote: Perhaps I was wrong about Oats and took the wrong side in Oats/gonzaw, but I'm still convinced BKE is mafia. yeah. And with gonzaw being red (assuming he will flip red) Chez really isn't the next target to go. | ||
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Vivax
22080 Posts
But he said he found it consistent with my filter and then asked why I checked gonzaw. Which is a weird question to be fair. | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
This would mean that mafia valued gonzaw very highly, and planned for him to be around a while, giving him two roles. It would make sense that they built their plan of action around him. So going back to Day 1 will be quite interesting. | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
This spoilered part is about debears since I don't want to spam the thread with BG talk, but I still would like an answer to this. + Show Spoiler [Debears] + Debears is looking more town to me but I still would like to hear why he waited to deliver such an underwhelming case on Oats and not delivering on djo. On January 24 2013 10:55 debears wrote: I explained this last game and earlier this game to djo. Unfortunately, you don't read This quote too. You explained that you don't spam because these are big games, but you didn't explain at all why d1 you "contributed" a meta read that you never followed through with and not much else except policy talk. Why have you just been providing meta reads instead of like the cases you pushed in previous town games that were much more logical? | ||
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DearestSnot
Germany200 Posts
BKE is suspicious too, I agree, but I'm more confident in Chezinu being scum, particularly if Gonzaw is indeed scum as well (and it certainly looks that way). Chezinu: has yet to provide reads very quickly on d1 threw dirt on me by saying I wasn't reading, when it wasn't really that clear if he actually put weight behind his rule, in order to lynch prplhz. I asked him and he said he would, but before that it was really unclear. What kind of mayoral candidate is unclear about who he'd try to lynch? (note this is really similar to what gonzaw did) delurks when called out; both by you and me. Yet, he still has no reads! It's something like 36+ hours into day 2, there's no excuse for going that long without having any sort of scumreads. Note again, this is the same way with gonzaw. BKE and annul still look bad for similar reasons, and it's more likely that annul is town now, but I think Chezinu is scum. I'm almost as sure of that as I am of anything else. | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
On January 25 2013 04:25 Vivax wrote: FT, how can you be so sure someone is mafia off so few posts? @ stutters Look at it this way: Oats, the probable town, immediately believed my claim cause of the timing. Toad, FT and yamato attacked it like crazy. Austin went a little less hyped about it, but he joined in doing so. Just saying, man, just saying...subjective you know. If you think that Toad, FT, Yamato, Asutin Gonzaw would be the scum team and would all attack your claim hardcore knowing you're right; you're insane. I could see a member, maybe two defending it but Toad does make sense with why he thought you were lying. I believe your claim since this would be a drastic scum play and based off of what I saw in YANMM that feels very unlikely, but I can understand the concern. | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On January 25 2013 04:31 Stutters695 wrote: Also my vote is on Gonzaw currently for obvious reasons. Forgot to mention that in the thread when I posted it due to being in between classes. This spoilered part is about debears since I don't want to spam the thread with BG talk, but I still would like an answer to this. + Show Spoiler [Debears] + Debears is looking more town to me but I still would like to hear why he waited to deliver such an underwhelming case on Oats and not delivering on djo. On January 24 2013 10:55 debears wrote: I explained this last game and earlier this game to djo. Unfortunately, you don't read This quote too. You explained that you don't spam because these are big games, but you didn't explain at all why d1 you "contributed" a meta read that you never followed through with and not much else except policy talk. Why have you just been providing meta reads instead of like the cases you pushed in previous town games that were much more logical? Stutters, there really is no reason for me to answer this. I'm gonna die tonight. You need to look at people that will likely survive the night | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
On January 25 2013 04:37 debears wrote: Stutters, there really is no reason for me to answer this. I'm gonna die tonight. You need to look at people that will likely survive the night Fair enough, if you live I expect an answer however. | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On January 25 2013 04:38 Stutters695 wrote: Fair enough, if you live I expect an answer however. Very well | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 25 2013 04:37 debears wrote: Stutters, there really is no reason for me to answer this. I'm gonna die tonight. You need to look at people that will likely survive the night we have 2 claimed DTs, another claimed blue, a bodyguard and people like WBG who are most likely going to be shot by mafia for being good. I would have agreed with you 4 hours ago but now.... I don't think mafia can shoot all of that at once. | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
I'm confident in an Annul lynch for tomorrow, regardless of Gonzaw's flip. Until the deadline, I will not be providing any association reads as he may yet flip town. Who the fuck knows. The way Annul has played this game is highly suspect. He seems to want to create a thread atmosphere that is negative, and he has twice now come in at opportune times to egg on a player who was shitting up the thread with their play, first me and now Vivax. He may yet be town, but this sort of behavior is mafia motivated in nature. I don't like that his response to the threat of lynch was to scream at everyone and then go silent like a fucking child, but anti-town isn't necessarily mafia, so it's not solid proof. One last thing: Toad, what's your thoughts on how Bugs has played today? | ||
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BroodKingEXE
United States829 Posts
On January 24 2013 22:52 FiveTouch wrote: + Show Spoiler + On January 24 2013 22:48 FiveTouch wrote: To Vivax: Firstly, I seem to recall you berating bugs with some awesome mafia-read you had in an obsQT. I presume from your attitude here that you believe this read to not be legitimate, as you weren't able to question the mafia? Secondly: I did indeed ask him a question, and he never answered it. This proves that Broodking isn't reading the thread at all. He says this: Which may excuse him (it doesn't) from his non-play on Day 1, but it doesn't excuse him missing a question I asked him only 3 hours prior to him posting. By way of edit, I should add that Broodking's last post there was aimed at another player, he never answered me (although it looks like that was an answer to me) The answer was more of a response to everybody. If you look at the majority of suspicion around me, it revolves around my inactivity. I merely chose the most recent post containing suspicion against me to respond to. I'm up for answering questions from you as well. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
There's about no way bugs is mafia. About as good looking as FT and myself imo. | ||
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BroodKingEXE
United States829 Posts
On January 25 2013 01:31 Vivax wrote: FT was totally disinterested in lynching gonzaw despite being shoveling shit at him so often. The reason is simple: Oats, BKE, Chezinu are easier to lynch and most likely aren't on his team. His last question he wants answered is pointless anyway, it doesn't change anything. I'll give that to you postgame. Just do me a fucking favour and get rid of FT, that guy is dangerous like 1000 snakes for this town. Given his experience and skill as scum he probably has a powerful role too. On January 25 2013 01:36 Vivax wrote: Toad, I was testing reactions with my extended knowledge about gonzaws alignment, the serious trouble you have is only dealing with the way I play, not with what I did. I don't give a fuck if you lynch me to confirm I'm DT. I wouldn't actually mind that cause then you can proceed to lynch the right ones and I'm out of this derp town. Obviously I would prefer if you lynched FT, yamato, Toad and probably Mocsta/Toad > austin/Chez/Bke etc. Gonzaw can stay where he is for now, he's not going anywhere, posting anything, probably tried to manipulate the mason circles and can be lynched later. Now we need to lynch the dangerous guys, namely FT. You are literally throwing scum teams out of your ass. | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 25 2013 04:25 Vivax wrote: FT, how can you be so sure someone is mafia off so few posts? @ stutters Look at it this way: Oats, the probable town, immediately believed my claim cause of the timing. Toad, FT and yamato attacked it like crazy. Austin went a little less hyped about it, but he joined in doing so. Just saying, man, just saying...subjective you know. I lynched prplhz off very few posts as well, remember. Vivax, riddle me this - I was pushing Oats and prplhz hard all through Day 1. Given gonzaw looks set to flip mafia, this obviously makes Oats look more likely town. Towards the end of Day 1 I had sandroba urging me to lynch Oatsmaster, and not prplhz. Yet I chose prplhz. Why? | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
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DearestSnot
Germany200 Posts
On January 25 2013 05:08 FiveTouch wrote: I lynched prplhz off very few posts as well, remember. Vivax, riddle me this - I was pushing Oats and prplhz hard all through Day 1. Given gonzaw looks set to flip mafia, this obviously makes Oats look more likely town. Towards the end of Day 1 I had sandroba urging me to lynch Oatsmaster, and not prplhz. Yet I chose prplhz. Why? cause you like me more than sandro? <3 | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
This was indeed the answer I was looking for. Possibly. Not quite, but I'll roll with it. | ||
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