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gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 24 2013 18:22 GMT
#2201
What the..?

From whom?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 24 2013 18:22 GMT
#2202
ebwop: a mistake in thinking that gonzaw had two roles based on the jack ability.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 24 2013 18:23 GMT
#2203
On January 25 2013 03:22 gonzaw wrote:
What the..?

From whom?

Sir Vivax of Crazypersonshire hath made accusations that you be a "mafia jack mason"

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=393344&currentpage=104#2071
Fe fi fo fum.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 24 2013 18:24 GMT
#2204
WTF?

That's so obviously bullshit. I didn't mason anybody at all that doesn't make sense?

Wow holy shit let me think about this
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 24 2013 18:25 GMT
#2205
On January 25 2013 03:24 gonzaw wrote:
That's so obviously bullshit.
Dude in the picture looks like a detective to me. It checks out.
Fe fi fo fum.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 24 2013 18:25 GMT
#2206
If this was a "legit" frame/attempt to misslynch me it's weird as fuck because "jack mason" doesn't make any sense.

Vivax are you lying about this for a reason or somethign?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 24 2013 18:27 GMT
#2207
On January 25 2013 03:25 gonzaw wrote:
If this was a "legit" frame/attempt to misslynch me it's weird as fuck because "jack mason" doesn't make any sense.

Vivax are you lying about this for a reason or somethign?

jack mason makes perfect sense. Mafias can have multiple roles.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 24 2013 18:28 GMT
#2208
On January 25 2013 01:39 yamato77 wrote:
Vivax if you're town you're a moron for what you're doing with this red check.

But, no matter your alignment, town's best play is to lynch Gonzaw here, so let's see some votes.


It's also telling that yamato posts this after he just finished to post something against gonzaw when the lynch wasn't going anywhere before the claim.

"What are you saying Vivax, I am not setting myself up for a bus, I had gonzaw as target for a long time"

"What are you doing Vivax, town was heading to an Oats lynch and you get gonzaw lynched with a claim?"

Seriously, yamato is so bad as scum, I would lynch him with a spoon.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 24 2013 18:30 GMT
#2209
Oh right forgot about that.

The thing is that It doesn't make sense for either:
-A framer to frame me "mafia jack mason" instead of, say just "mafia jack"
-Vivax being scum fake-claiming I'm "mafia jack mason".

There's some scum motivation behind either of those, and someone faked a "jack mason", which doesn't make sense because I'm obviously not mason and didn't mason anybody, so how the fuck would they expect anybody to believe that?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 24 2013 18:31 GMT
#2210
On January 25 2013 03:28 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 01:39 yamato77 wrote:
Vivax if you're town you're a moron for what you're doing with this red check.

But, no matter your alignment, town's best play is to lynch Gonzaw here, so let's see some votes.


It's also telling that yamato posts this after he just finished to post something against gonzaw when the lynch wasn't going anywhere before the claim.

"What are you saying Vivax, I am not setting myself up for a bus, I had gonzaw as target for a long time"

"What are you doing Vivax, town was heading to an Oats lynch and you get gonzaw lynched with a claim?"

Seriously, yamato is so bad as scum, I would lynch him with a spoon.


we already know that you'd be willing to lynch everyone disagreeing with you and you said that about at least 8 people this cycle... so get off your high horse and stop being an ass.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 24 2013 18:31 GMT
#2211
On January 25 2013 03:22 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 03:00 Toadesstern wrote:
not going to claim who it is. I'm going to ignore it. Make of it whatever you think.
You claimed a lie because you claimed what you "assumed" your check meant instead of just claiming your check although we kept on asking to just spit it out.


My very first post was everything you needed. I wrote everything you wanted to know in the picture.

If you're too stupid or disruptive to get that everything you wanted was there from the beginning, then don't blame it on me.
If anything you have been fooled by the OPs description, you trying to paint me bad based on other people's mistakes and your own is...self-explanatory.

I made a mistake in thinking that gonzaw had two roles. I rather thought he was mason for a cycle.
But that mistake is productive. It revealed that people immediately asking questions about that knew what was up and poked it. Mainly cause they hoped I would do some mistake to get me lynched or was fakeclaiming.



Vivax, please think for a minute. Mafia would most likely presume your claim was legitimate, and they would know you are town (given you are). Therefore they would also know that your claim wouldn't have holes and you would be able to explain it. It's far more likely town would be confused by your claim given you were assuming things that weren't certain.
Artanis & marv
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 24 2013 18:33 GMT
#2212
On January 25 2013 03:30 gonzaw wrote:
Oh right forgot about that.

The thing is that It doesn't make sense for either:
-A framer to frame me "mafia jack mason" instead of, say just "mafia jack"
-Vivax being scum fake-claiming I'm "mafia jack mason".

There's some scum motivation behind either of those, and someone faked a "jack mason", which doesn't make sense because I'm obviously not mason and didn't mason anybody, so how the fuck would they expect anybody to believe that?
That is the part that makes it slightly more convincing.

It's either REMARKABLY creative of a framer to make you a "jack mason"

or

remarkably creative of Vivax to say he checked you and you came back both roles

or

you are mafia.

The low-hanging fruit is for the framer to make someone a roleblocker, which town can't have. More likely that you go for something like, or just mafia whatever, rather than notice that only mafia could be x + mason and frame someone to appear as that, because you've already got mafia-only roles sitting in front of you that SOUND damning on their own, like framer.
Fe fi fo fum.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 24 2013 18:40 GMT
#2213
The only thing I could think of is that this scum (framer or Vivax) thought a "farfetched" claim would somehow be more convincing than a normal "mafia goon" or "mafia framer".

It's possible that they had thought I was already a mason, maybe one of FT's "secret masons", and took a risk framing me as scum mason, knowing it'd be more convincing after FT outs me as mason or something

I don't fucking know if it was a framer or Vivax is going for a power-play, and then later claim framer when i'm misslynched

I am also a VT, which doesn't matter at all anyways so might as well claim.


Fuck this shit is just too stressful. I have my cousin's wedding tomorrow and have to organize shit for it, this is not what I was expecting when I joined this game.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 24 2013 18:41 GMT
#2214
On January 25 2013 03:28 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 01:39 yamato77 wrote:
Vivax if you're town you're a moron for what you're doing with this red check.

But, no matter your alignment, town's best play is to lynch Gonzaw here, so let's see some votes.


It's also telling that yamato posts this after he just finished to post something against gonzaw when the lynch wasn't going anywhere before the claim.

"What are you saying Vivax, I am not setting myself up for a bus, I had gonzaw as target for a long time"

"What are you doing Vivax, town was heading to an Oats lynch and you get gonzaw lynched with a claim?"

Seriously, yamato is so bad as scum, I would lynch him with a spoon.

If you are town we need to talk after this game, because it is getting ridiculous.

How many posts of mine can you try to quote to make me look bad? I think you're an idiot for what you're doing with this check because you're making association cases and are so confirmation biased you're calling near confirmed townies mafias.
Writer@WriterYamato
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 24 2013 18:42 GMT
#2215
Okay, it may be hard to convince you people I'm not scum, specially with me being kind of lazy these past few days and all.

I'll try to spend my time reading Vivax and figure out if he's scum fakeclaiming or if there's a mafia framer out there. I take it this will be better for town later.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 24 2013 18:43 GMT
#2216
Go on with your ad hominem, yamato. It just shows you have no way of disproving that argument.

I want to see you rage all over the thread.
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 24 2013 18:44 GMT
#2217
On January 25 2013 03:42 gonzaw wrote:
Okay, it may be hard to convince you people I'm not scum, specially with me being kind of lazy these past few days and all.

I'll try to spend my time reading Vivax and figure out if he's scum fakeclaiming or if there's a mafia framer out there. I take it this will be better for town later.


I'm fairly sure "being lazy" was not the answer you gave me yesterday when I asked you why you weren't as much a central figure as I had expected.
Artanis & marv
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 24 2013 18:44 GMT
#2218
At first glance, considering my previous read of Vivax, I'd say it's pretty witty mafia framer out there.
But Vivax has been so anti-town all game....like I could easily be wrong.
Arhg
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 24 2013 18:46 GMT
#2219
On January 25 2013 03:44 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 03:42 gonzaw wrote:
Okay, it may be hard to convince you people I'm not scum, specially with me being kind of lazy these past few days and all.

I'll try to spend my time reading Vivax and figure out if he's scum fakeclaiming or if there's a mafia framer out there. I take it this will be better for town later.


I'm fairly sure "being lazy" was not the answer you gave me yesterday when I asked you why you weren't as much a central figure as I had expected.


Yes it was, or it implies it anyway

Not that it matters much.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
January 24 2013 18:51 GMT
#2220
did anyone mason with gonzaw this game? if so speak up please
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