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Newbie Mini Mafia XXXVI
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Slayalot
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Slayalot
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On January 18 2013 05:47 Clarity_nl wrote: Use your coach! Did you sign up on tl just to play mafia? Well. I've been on TL since they started uploading broodwar replays. But never made a profile. I'm a teacher, and I've thought about playing mafia with my 9th grade. So Im here to try the internet version out, thus gaining exprtience | ||
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Slayalot
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I would like to read about the rules there aswell. I think Ill end up with a hybrid game. Because all our pupils have ipads, so they could vote through that.. Also. That would avoid the game "stopping" for the town people, every time it's night time. (And prevent the peeking/cheating) Could this be done? I know which app to use for voting, and annonymous communication.. But I dont know enough about the game itself | ||
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Slayalot
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On January 26 2013 11:16 warbaby wrote: I'd like to get this flawless town victory started by suggesting some ideas to promote a healthy town atmosphere:
I'm not sure what to write in these games yet. But as a few people have also said. The above "guidelines" from warbaby is a really good idea. Lurkers will most likely get my vote. And furthermore I think that writing nonsense to fill up the chat (really mean online trick btw) is just as bad as lurking, and I will be watching out for that aswell. | ||
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Slayalot
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On January 27 2013 02:30 warbaby wrote: Acid~, I take your response to mean you do feel that your posts were productive so far. I think it's interesting that you defend yourself by attacking me personally. I'm not the only one making this case against you. You're right, though. I'm done discussing this if you are. After reading pages 5,6,7 over a few times - I can't find anyone els who is "making a case against him". So what exactly do you mean? From my perspective, you are the only one attacking Acid. And in a kind of aggressive way. I'm not saying that makes you a scum, but I don't think it's wise to make people afraid to post. If you can extract that much information from what Acid has written so far, you are either damn good at this game, or just very interested in pointing a finger at someone. Also. SkaPunk. your post doesn't count as a real post to me . You're still a lurker in my eyes. You're gonna have to write some more. What are you going to contribute with, for day 1 ? | ||
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Slayalot
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Im partly writing this to let new players know, that just because 2 people are implying that someone could be scum, they shouldn't make this cloud their jugdement. (That's called jumping on the wagon/bandwagon, and it's a dangerous thing to do - cause the wagon could just as easily have been started by scum). At least that's my understanding of the word / theory. To the less active people: Start posting. The longer you wait, the more you start to look like scum. If no scum gives themself away for the next xx hours, we will be forced to kill the guy who hasn't posted anything (or the guy that only has made 1 welcome post). | ||
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Slayalot
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There are 5 hours left, before day 1 ends? Im not good at time-zones but the game started the 26th at around 10:00.. Now it's 28th and 4:42... Yes? And if I'm not mistaking there are 2 afk people. And skapunk's oneliner. Furthermore it's bedtime now, in europe.. Or maybe people wait till the end with their post/vote??? Anyway.. I don't think I will have the chance to change my vote, so I will have to vote on the information so far. ##Vote: Skapunk At the time you made your first post, you knew our stands on lurking and writing pointless posts, yet you wrote 1 line. That is either the most stupid thing ever done, or you simply dont care about this game. Either way, I dont see how you can contribute to finding scum. If you write within the next 5 hours, and clear your name, I wont have the option to change my vote ( as I will be asleep ) | ||
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Slayalot
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Guys I'm sorry.. This game was much more time demanding than I thought. I thought this was like a lunch break game. Pre-game / day 1 I didn't mind. Now there are page 9,10,11 since I last read - and in that time space I've been asked to post by almost all of you. I'm not gonna abandon the game, I'll play it through to the end (cause I hate leavers) - but not nearly as actively as I know you guys want me to be. The points that I had, around page 9 (I think), seem so ancient now! And there are now 20 things that I have not yet commented on. I don't even remember the questions. I'm going to give you my thoughts, but they are no way near as deep or well thought out as what you guys are writing about. (And you are even reading "meta" which I can understand is text from previous games) I take my hat of to everyone that does this - It's pretty pro Anyway. My thought are: Thought 1: On January 29 2013 01:53 Sn0_Man wrote: A) you know full well I was away when Cora posted his vote. B) I wasn't using it as evidence in a case I was merely explaining my vote in detail C) I knew abenson was out for glurio because I was looking through the filter list for glurio and couldn't find him. Admittedly this was a logical fallacy because it could have been AFKing who glurio replaced, and I would have been none the wiser, but I assumed it was abenson because his was the last name on the list and I hadn't seen him post. Either way, I had him discounted as glurio. The part I highlighted just seems like a straight up lie. Why would you assume the last person on any list? Thought 2: Right after we lynched a townie, warbaby seemed very nervous. Triple posting. Being too tired and misunderstanding stuff. And right after - pointing fingers at the people who voted for skapunk. (me, sn0 and glurio) You seemed very scummy to me, right there and then. Reading the thread today, I was hoping that there would be more talk about this. But I just have the feeling that you are one step ahread, always redirecting the thread to other people. What does everyone els think on this subject? | ||
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Slayalot
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But several people have already made cases against warbaby. The only thing I see, that hasn't been touched on, is the fact that he is really being very nice to me. (Sorry for not finding the quotes) But first he said that he thought I could have been a good player, if I just had more time on my hands. (But is that actually what you guys are getting from reading my filter??) And secondly. He totally thinks it's ok that I suddenly haven't got the same amount of time to read/post. It makes me wonder why he is suddenly being so nice to me. But. That being said. I think we're making a huge mistake not exploring / hunting other people. I see you guys are talking about tunneling this and that. From what I see, we're all tunneling warbaby too much. More posts about him won't help change anything. And that means wasting time. Also It's a free pass for the other scum (or 2 other scum). So for the remaining time of day 2 - Let's explore everyone els. I'm willing to even say, that I find further tunneling on warbaby as a scummy sign. And I will be the first to try and exit "the tunnel" Besides warbaby, I think Acid is looking scummy. Poor activity day 1 First "real post" had a #FOS on warbaby Seeing as this got the response he was looking for He posts a very aggressive second post. With words like "treason" and "Explain or die!" Which seems overly aggressive to me. If you wanted to be heard, why not keep your cool? You know how warbaby is very very active, and tries to anwser everything he is acussed of, so was it nessecary to write "Explain or die"? Scum-radar: #1 - Warbaby #2 - Acid | ||
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Slayalot
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You are still tunneling warbaby. And you are going emotional in almost every post. Lets say warbaby isn't scum, but he gets lynched. What have you contributed with?? Someone wrote (forgot who) that warbaby AND acid can't both be scum. You are right! So In a way. It doesn't make sense for me to have them as #1 and #2. So I've thought about who should replace who. And I wanted to find someone to be #2 instead of acid. But since my last post - he has done exactly what I told him not to do. He keeps tunneling Warbaby and keeps going emo all the time. I can't make up my mind if that makes him more scummy or less scummy. To glurio. You say that you are going to bed, and that you will "look at acid tomorrow" I'm going to hold you to your word. And that means, that I want to hear your thoughts on him before day 2 ends. If you don't do this, I will consider it a scummy move. To zare. We need more of your analysis. I have a strong town read on you so far - and I agree with alot of your posts. | ||
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Slayalot
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##vote: Warbaby (I don't believe the doc claim - It's like the poker all-in move when you have only a few chips left.. It's not scaring me off) I know you guys need more posts from me - but It's not going to change. On a daily basis I'm considering to ask for a replacement. Because I want you guys to have the best experience. I'm down from reading everything very detailed, to reading 90% and skimming the rest. I won't sign up for online mafia again (promise) If everyone feels like I should /replace, I can do that. But if not, I'll continue to play like I am now. | ||
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Slayalot
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Slayalot
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2 questions 1: Is the "no-lynch" off the table again? (Cause it makes alot of sense. Giving 1 more day to outnumber scum. If I understand correctly) 2: Has Acid been proven town or killed? Or why is no one talking about him? Since the page 1 isn't updated on "spoiler -flips" I don't konw how many are left. Can this either be updated or someone tell me. | ||
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Slayalot
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I didn't have the option to come home and vote yesterday.. But it's kinda of a good thing that it wouldn't have changed the result. Imagine that the score was 2-2  what potential drama.Thanks for showing this game to me. And for the record. The whole "I didn't know the game would require that much time.. I don't have the time to play the game, so I have to lurk" was genuine. (I would never enjoy winning a game based upon a lie like that) P.s. Why are you guys playing newbie games ?? It seems to me that you should be playing normal or expert games. | ||
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Slayalot
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On February 05 2013 05:25 Promethelax wrote: I'd like to dissect this post for you guys. You should have been able to call Slay out as scum as soon as you saw it. Or perhaps you should not have been able to but in the future you should be able to do so. first off we havewhich is a scummy thing to say. Townies do not excuse themselves from their posting, they do not try to develop a reason for their posts to be lacking. Townies simply post. A scum thinks 'I have no idea what to say' early day one because the scum agenda is hard to push when there is no direct reason to do so, it is early day one and town is doing scum's work for them. thisis pure sheep and while a sheep can be townie this player is trying to look townie. Not be townie. An image is an important thing for scum while it doesn't (usually) occur that a townie tries to protect his townieness early day one. Next is this gem where Slay tries to justify a vote before he makes it. He is trying to dodge the responsibility of voting a townie and hasn't even voted yet. Additionally look who he is placing his vote on, is it someone scummy? Someone he thinks is scum? no, simply a lurker. The last part of the post is an attempt to gain town cred, he is posting useless advice which you have no need for. You either know it already or will never know it. This fluff in his own post is exactly what he is talking about as deserving a vote (though not because it is scummy). So in reading Slay's first post you should have seen his scumminess, he was a newb scum and he showed you that in the above post. I hope this helps, I'm in the middle of nodding off during class so it may not be the most cognizant. Reading this post made me think of that south park episode where they all loved the smell of their own farts. The fact that you're all discussing the funny moments and the good plays in this game (after it ended) is cool with me. In the above-post I was playing the insecure - first timer - newbie townie guy. And in a newbie game, with like 3 or 4 total posts in my teamliquid account life time, this is a viable option. (Also this was a newbie game, with what I believed at the time, was 8 other newbies.) As it was my first post, I waited several minutes before clicking post, and in that timeframe I asked myself several times if I would have posted the same as town. And the anwser was yes. You can call that a terrible start as a town... I don't care. I didn't get any raised eyebrows after that post, meaning it was credible at the time, in this game. So when you think you can extract 4 clear mafia signs in my first post.. I'm gonna throw the bullshit card. Everything looks clear with 20/20 hindsight. | ||
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