EPTI encourage everyone to vote either Mocsta or JacobStrangelove, I think the last one makes more sense logically, but right now they both seem scummy to me.
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zebezt
185 Posts
I encourage everyone to vote either Mocsta or JacobStrangelove, I think the last one makes more sense logically, but right now they both seem scummy to me. | ||
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Trotske
410 Posts
On January 17 2013 07:34 zebezt wrote: Hey guys, I'm off to bed. I encourage everyone to vote either Mocsta or JacobStrangelove, I think the last one makes more sense logically, but right now they both seem scummy to me. How does that last one make more sense he will get modkilled if he doesn't vote in the next hour and a half. if you think mocsta is scummy vote for him. | ||
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zebezt
185 Posts
On January 17 2013 07:37 Trotske wrote: How does that last one make more sense he will get modkilled if he doesn't vote in the next hour and a half. if you think mocsta is scummy vote for him. I explained it just a few posts ago. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=391615¤tpage=38#748 There is a chance Jacob is still going to vote. I assume that if he signed up he will participate. | ||
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Trotske
410 Posts
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Trotske
410 Posts
On January 17 2013 07:43 zebezt wrote: I explained it just a few posts ago. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=391615¤tpage=38#748 There is a chance Jacob is still going to vote. I assume that if he signed up he will participate. You just said you are off to bed Wouldn't it make more sense to put your vote somewhere it will matter not waste it on someone who is likely to get modkilled? | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
Dinner Plate Role Call: French Revolution Edition! Votes not in the proper format will NOT be counted. EVERYONE is required to vote. Trotske (2): Zarepath, Mocsta, Mocsta (2): Acid~, Trotske JacobStrangelove (2): Zebezt, Shz Zebezt (1): Spaghetticus, OmniEulogy (0): Acid~ (0): Not Voting (3): OmniEulogy, JacobStrangelove, Sn0_Man Currently Trotske is set to be lynched! You all have 1 hour until lynch deadline. If I got your vote wrong, make sure to pm me. The lynch deadline is 00:00 GMT (+00:00). | ||
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Acid~
Thailand442 Posts
On January 17 2013 06:45 zebezt wrote: Acid: look at this logically. If Mocsta is scum are you are convinced (and I'm pretty sold on it too) than why would he switch votes from Laguerta to Mand. The situation at this vote count http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=391615¤tpage=24#480 was such that Laguerta was to die. If Mocsta is scum and Laguerta is not, why would Mocsta switch? It only puts him in the center of attention, which is what scum usually does not want. Honestly, my guess is that he thought the Lag lynch would still happen and he didn't want to be on the train. I think the last-minute confusion might indeed have gotten to him and he didn't realize Man would be lynched, which would be coherent with his OH FUCK post right after the lynch. It could also be a master scum play, similar to what happened here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=312831¤tpage=5#99 The thing is, our votes are scattered right now, which leaves us open to a situation similar to d1: scum could vote-switch to bandwagon at the last minute and put us in LyLo at the start of day 3. I especially don't like where Mocsta's vote is parked and given his latest post I'm expecting another last-minute vote-switch. We need to consolidate town right now, IF you think Mocsta and Laguerta are equally likely to be scum, you should vote Mocsta because if he is scum, he is much more dangerous. | ||
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Spaghetticus
Australia451 Posts
##Vote: Trotske | ||
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JacobStrangelove
Australia1572 Posts
However I now have a feel for most of the people and a few things recently popped up. First I ran into this On January 15 2013 17:23 zebezt wrote: Ooh I found a question from Acid I didnt answer: At this point I had forgotten that acid even existed, he seems to have picked up posting after this but if I remember correctly only after mentioned. Also he goes straight for zebezt which seemed to be another in contention at the time (possible counter wagon not actual scum read?) On January 16 2013 05:22 Acid~ wrote: I'm fine with having the smallest filter. For now, I'm reading. I don't feel the need to make you privy to my every inane thought, so when I have something useful to say I will post. Until then, since nothing has changed in this regard: ##Vote: Zebezt However from what I saw his case on Trotske seemed good, by good it was set out nicely. By this point in the thread I was starting to zone out. So I will need to go back in and formulate cases. Because I am so far behind can you link me to critical posts and arguments recently for me read? Also ask me opinions and questions on things. Defence. Ok unfortunately due to time I have to put up a defence of mocas case based on 8 posts the lynch and previous day one lynches... So I am going to treat him like I would if I cop checked him with no framer and was trying to show you why it’s wrong. Because he is I and I know me. If this makes sense. If not ignore everything after the dots. First “La de da” (the person I replaced cause let’s be honest he did nothing) was compared to a guy named tmil who was scum. But I would like to point out one major difference between the play styles. TeMiL made posts to seem active while not saying anything useful (going off one example that was given) “On January 05 2013 00:02 TeMiL wrote: ive just make a chart with your connections. i want to know for each one your nationality and the country of residence, or maybe everyone are native from each country that TL says: TeMiL - Peru Sylencia - Australia Spaghetticus - Australia Mocsta - Australia StriX - Australia OmniEulogy - Canada jampidampi - Finland cDgCorazon - USA zarepath - USA i need to make some conclusiones with this information” While he sucked he had a scum style due to (trying) to do stuff. Compare this to la de dar over here who posted like. “his guys posts is full of fluff as indicated by: ________________________________________ On January 13 2013 22:40 laguerta wrote: When does voting end? ________________________________________ ________________________________________ On January 14 2013 07:08 laguerta wrote: because im going to help the town later when i stop being super tired and lazy ________________________________________ ________________________________________ On January 13 2013 00:31 laguerta wrote: k ________________________________________ ________________________________________ On January 14 2013 07:09 laguerta wrote: ##unvote ##vote no one ________________________________________ “ Complete fluff not even trying to appear active (without posting) or town like just completely disconnected from the game. If he was this bad I would assume he would do the whole. Yay town lets win this thing that scum like to do to get people on their side. The meta from scum to town is very different. That is as much as I can say in my defence based on his posting. (yes he lied... that is all there is too say on that I am not a mind reader of ghosts past but I can assume he just forgot what he said {lol}) Secondly, while you have a point about him possibly being confusing I believe you might be complicating the issue. He had a lot of votes on him easy. This lead to nerves which caused a vote switch. If I recall correctly the last few games I played day one both people in contention were easy to get votes on. Much like this case. While it isn’t much they were both town each time? (not sure with memory) Basically a vote switch while it might seem pointless for mafia to switch lynches it creates suspicion on the one that survived the lynch. Thus making it easier to lynch people later on. (although that last section was wifom) | ||
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Acid~
Thailand442 Posts
On January 17 2013 07:20 shz wrote: Are you kidding me Mocsta? How the fuck can't you still not vote for laguerta/Jacob? I will stick with laguerta for now. I think he did a great job of either causing confusion in this town, or at playing bad. I hope it's the former. As long Jacob does'nt participate at all, I see no value in keeping him around. I'm not completly sold on Mocsta, but that doesn't I see him as town. ##Vote: JacobStrangelove Please participate in some way before you die, maybe you can explain what the fuck laguertas play was and defend yourself (even if you weren't the one doing this shit). If not, I'll keep my vote on you. Even if Jacob is scum at this point, him not voting makes him essentially useless to the scum team. I would advocate voting for him only if you have no other strong scumread. Have you read my case on Mocsta? If so, do you have any comments? If you're not convinced, please share your doubts. | ||
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JacobStrangelove
Australia1572 Posts
atm I will vote no lynch because I don't have enough to vote for anyone reliably. ##Vote: No lynch | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
Im not swapping votes. Trotske has proved to me he is scum by his recent actions. Odd that he always defends la guerta. Odd that he suddenly has doubled his post count. If he could oost this much now. Why not contribute before. He has seen a window to be a lynchpin in taking me out. Thats why... I cant quote on phone. Too hard. | ||
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Trotske
410 Posts
On January 17 2013 08:12 Mocsta wrote: On phone. Im not swapping votes. Trotske has proved to me he is scum by his recent actions. Odd that he always defends la guerta. Odd that he suddenly has doubled his post count. If he could oost this much now. Why not contribute before. He has seen a window to be a lynchpin in taking me out. That's why... I cant quote on phone. Too hard. So I'm playing more now that I have time and that makes me scum that's legit. | ||
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Trotske
410 Posts
On January 17 2013 08:07 Spaghetticus wrote: ##Unvote: Zebezt ##Vote: Trotske THE FUCK? | ||
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Acid~
Thailand442 Posts
On January 17 2013 08:07 Spaghetticus wrote: ##Unvote: Zebezt ##Vote: Trotske You need to explain this vote because right now it looks like you're jumping on the easy train. What do you make of my Mocsta case? I know you like to LAL, but we're way past that point now. We don't really have any hardcore lurkers anymore, everyone has posted enough so that we could get a sense of them. If your strongest scumread is Trotske, please explain why. | ||
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Acid~
Thailand442 Posts
On January 17 2013 07:05 Sn0_Man wrote: Agreed, and Day 1 I thought they might both be scum. Another option is that they are masoned together... On the other hand, the coordination of this sudden jump-on-mocsta train reeks of scum QT planning. Obviously its not certain, but I'm going to examine the circumstances very carefully. Which sucks because I had a pretty hard town read on Acid (probably because he's always had it out for Moc rofl). If nothing else, I still support the theory behind LAL enough to look at lynching laguerta (okay his mute replacement) over Mocsta. @Trotske at least you are posting. And really, your posts are starting to change my mind. I so wanted to lynch you. @Mocsta that last post sounded desperate as hell, although admittedly town don't want to be lynched either. If Trotske and I were both scum plotting together, we would be like the worst scum team ever since my case against him got him leading the vote count right now, which is interesting. Very interesting indeed. It seems my case has produced the desired results, although not in the manner that I had intended. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
but use it for the basis of your reasoning *clap clap* Well played acid | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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JacobStrangelove
Australia1572 Posts
On January 17 2013 08:22 Acid~ wrote: If Trotske and I were both scum plotting together, we would be like the worst scum team ever since my case against him got him leading the vote count right now, which is interesting. Very interesting indeed. It seems my case has produced the desired results, although not in the manner that I had intended. Well it was pretty! You had exhibits and everything. Could have been a bus style we hate each other thing gone wrong though. The whole if I were scum argument while useful sometimes often is mildly indicative of scum trying to think how a town would. (or trying to leave the impression he is town by saying if ect...) | ||
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Acid~
Thailand442 Posts
On January 17 2013 08:26 Sn0_Man wrote: I really would like to hear a real content post from spag pre lynch, although I'm not expecting it. I would really like to hear (read :p) what you have to say about my Mocsta case. I think we need to consolidate hard right now, and not on a lurker. You are right to be suspicious of the Trotske train and I think a Mocsta lynch would be much more beneficial to town. | ||
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