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On January 08 2013 12:23 yamato77 wrote:How is wanting town to be suspicious of you a town tell? The best advice I've ever been given about being town is to get out of the way of the scumhunt. He can't even manage to do that. Apparently everyone thinks I'm bad regardless of what I do but I'm putting my case out there. As I said, I don't really give a shit if you agree with me or not because I think he's scum.
Does it make sense from a scum perspective to shower suspicion on yourself? Scum mentality is to avoid the spotlight and blend in. CC is doing the exact opposite.
Do I agree with how CC is playing? No. But that doesn't mean he's scum, because his play makes zero sense from that perspective.
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IDK, too many scummy people.
On second thought, let's wait a few days before killing the wrong person.
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On January 08 2013 12:26 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Yamato I think you misunderstand. I'm not wanting town to be suspicious of me. It just happened and I'm rolling with it, but I'm not going to dwell on people thinking I'm scum. People being suspect of me is just a bi-product of my shenanigans.
What useful purpose do you think your shenanigans honestly serve?
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On January 08 2013 12:27 MrZentor wrote:
IDK, too many scummy people.
On second thought, let's wait a few days before killing the wrong person.
Way to be useless.
"Oh let's lynch someone."
"No wait they're all scummy."
Do you intend on doing anything today?
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I'll be straight up here.
I was never trying to come off scummy at all. I was trying to get answers from people by asking questions / expressing honest thoughts. Somewhere along the line, I got dubbed as scummy "omg not contributing wtf no content just posting for posting". I think to myself, really? Okay. I can't really refute that -- it would just end up in a he said she said situation. By fighting it, I'm getting in the way of finding actual scum. People would still be all over me for crap reasons if I were defending.
So I embrace it. Why fight the general flow of the thread? I'm here to read people and to find scum. What a better way than to talk to people and see if they are genuine in attacking me? It's not the best plan. Nor is it even a decent plan. But it's what I've got to roll with.
@Yamato
My shenanigans were only limited to quote "flinging shit" on some players. That was literally it, in one post I called some people out for BS. Somehow the entire thing has been bloated up into this mess where that one post makes me scum and it apparently is the only think I've done all game. But again, I have to roll with the punches.
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@ Yamato
Back to my post over here:
I'm curious. In all of the games you've played as town, when have you used ANY of these tells to actually find and lynch mafia?
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On January 08 2013 12:36 Hapahauli wrote:@ YamatoBack to my post over here: I'm curious. In all of the games you've played as town, when have you used ANY of these tells to actually find and lynch mafia?
Apparently I can't read people so it doesn't make any difference. All of the times I have lynched mafia people said I was sheeping so whatever.
I'm leaving. This was a waste. I'm arguing against the scum and his biggest supporter.
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On January 08 2013 12:38 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 12:36 Hapahauli wrote:@ YamatoBack to my post over here: I'm curious. In all of the games you've played as town, when have you used ANY of these tells to actually find and lynch mafia? Apparently I can't read people so it doesn't make any difference. All of the times I have lynched mafia people said I was sheeping so whatever. I'm leaving. This was a waste. I'm arguing against the scum and his biggest supporter.
Stop being a whiny little bitch and get back in here. "I'm done talking to you because my feelings are hurt that I'm attacking your case" is pathetic. And is lynchable.
And kid, you better listen to what the fuck I have to say, because I know a hell of a lot more about scum-hunting than you do.
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@ DP
Thoughts on recent developments? You kinda peac'd out
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j Hapa, I think you're getting a bit emotional. I agree he should get back here so we can discuss to get a more accurate read on him, but I don't want you to go all out on him into a potential mislynch. You said yourself that emotional lynches are the worst. Think you guys should both cool down a little.
I really want to hear from everyone on the interactions. It seems 2-3 people interact and then the rest chime in later. Especially Jay and SP I need to hear from.
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On January 08 2013 12:26 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 12:23 yamato77 wrote:How is wanting town to be suspicious of you a town tell? The best advice I've ever been given about being town is to get out of the way of the scumhunt. He can't even manage to do that. Apparently everyone thinks I'm bad regardless of what I do but I'm putting my case out there. As I said, I don't really give a shit if you agree with me or not because I think he's scum. Does it make sense from a scum perspective to shower suspicion on yourself? Scum mentality is to avoid the spotlight and blend in. CC is doing the exact opposite. Do I agree with how CC is playing? No. But that doesn't mean he's scum, because his play makes zero sense from that perspective.
This is fucking bullshit hapa. His play makes perfect sense as scum.
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EBWOP:
Your argument can be WIFOM'd either way.
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Yeah probably. I'm generally an asshole when I play this game.
Aaaaaanyway, fact is that I need Yamato to talk to me about his read. I start attacking his logic... and then he quits instead of backing himself up? That's unacceptable and doesn't play towards town goals at all.
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DP. You're telling me that you read the last few pages and you still think CC is scum...
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On January 08 2013 12:55 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 12:26 Hapahauli wrote:On January 08 2013 12:23 yamato77 wrote:How is wanting town to be suspicious of you a town tell? The best advice I've ever been given about being town is to get out of the way of the scumhunt. He can't even manage to do that. Apparently everyone thinks I'm bad regardless of what I do but I'm putting my case out there. As I said, I don't really give a shit if you agree with me or not because I think he's scum. Does it make sense from a scum perspective to shower suspicion on yourself? Scum mentality is to avoid the spotlight and blend in. CC is doing the exact opposite. Do I agree with how CC is playing? No. But that doesn't mean he's scum, because his play makes zero sense from that perspective. This is fucking bullshit hapa. His play makes perfect sense as scum.
There seems to be a disconnect over what we think a hypothetical Mr.CC scum is capable of.
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On January 08 2013 12:57 Hapahauli wrote:
DP. You're telling me that you read the last few pages and you still think CC is scum...
All his behaviour recently can plausibly be by an active scum. I don't really want to lynch him as much as I did and am starting to look at others if that makes you feel better.
But I don't have the dead set town read you do, not even close, a lot of what you are saying about him is subjective/WIFOM, but being presented as an objective truth. Which is bullshit.
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On January 08 2013 12:59 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 12:55 DarthPunk wrote:On January 08 2013 12:26 Hapahauli wrote:On January 08 2013 12:23 yamato77 wrote:How is wanting town to be suspicious of you a town tell? The best advice I've ever been given about being town is to get out of the way of the scumhunt. He can't even manage to do that. Apparently everyone thinks I'm bad regardless of what I do but I'm putting my case out there. As I said, I don't really give a shit if you agree with me or not because I think he's scum. Does it make sense from a scum perspective to shower suspicion on yourself? Scum mentality is to avoid the spotlight and blend in. CC is doing the exact opposite. Do I agree with how CC is playing? No. But that doesn't mean he's scum, because his play makes zero sense from that perspective. This is fucking bullshit hapa. His play makes perfect sense as scum. There seems to be a disconnect over what we think a hypothetical Mr.CC scum is capable of.
Too right.
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On January 08 2013 12:43 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 12:38 yamato77 wrote:On January 08 2013 12:36 Hapahauli wrote:@ YamatoBack to my post over here: I'm curious. In all of the games you've played as town, when have you used ANY of these tells to actually find and lynch mafia? Apparently I can't read people so it doesn't make any difference. All of the times I have lynched mafia people said I was sheeping so whatever. I'm leaving. This was a waste. I'm arguing against the scum and his biggest supporter. Stop being a whiny little bitch and get back in here. "I'm done talking to you because my feelings are hurt that I'm attacking your case" is pathetic. And is lynchable. And kid, you better listen to what the fuck I have to say, because I know a hell of a lot more about scum-hunting than you do.
Well why don't you sit back and critique my cases some more, then? It's so productive for me to go after my scum read and then have you come in here and shit all over it.
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On January 08 2013 12:57 Hapahauli wrote:
Yeah probably. I'm generally an asshole when I play this game.
Aaaaaanyway, fact is that I need Yamato to talk to me about his read. I start attacking his logic... and then he quits instead of backing himself up? That's unacceptable and doesn't play towards town goals at all.
What is there for me to say? I think it makes him scum and you don't and you're of the opinion that you know better than me so I can't do anything to change your mind.
End of story.
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