British Empire Mini Mafia - Page 45

On January 08 2013 13:03 yamato77 wrote:

Well why don't you sit back and critique my cases some more, then? It's so productive for me to go after my scum read and then have you come in here and shit all over it.

On January 08 2013 13:09 DarthPunk wrote:
Also hapa stop defending CC plz. Let him defend himself. You getting involved helps no one and yamato is pursuing his top scum read.

CC is a big boy he can fight his own battles.

On January 08 2013 13:12 Hapahauli wrote:


Listen. Yes I am critiquing your cases, because I disagree with you. That's part of the process here. For example, you think that him drawing attention to himself in such a manner is scummy. That's just simply not a scum tell. I think you'll find in a lot of your past games, that the scum aren't the ones drawing attention to themselves. They aren't the ones that OMGUS, are raving lunatics, or get into crazy fights. They are very often the ones blending in and hiding.

You just finished Yet Another Normal Mini Mafia, right? Who was scum - Dr. Wiggles, Vivax, and Sciberia. They weren't super-active spammy dudes. They were for the most part trying to blend behind the scenes. The player under intense scrutiny and drawing attention to himself (Promethelax) was town.

Then you have Newbie XXXII, where Rad and Oatsmaster were scum. Rad for the most part dropped a big case once in a while and blended in. Oatsmaster was active and spammy, but was so whiney compared to his towny self.

So when I see you making this read on Mr.CC, I'm not attacking it to be an asshole. I'm attacking it because I believe it's fundamentally wrong, and I feel like I'm watching my less-experienced past self OMGUS townies into oblivion (which I did and still do with extreme regularity).

And I'm sorry I'm being dickish about it, but I do feel very strongly about it.

On January 08 2013 13:07 DarthPunk wrote:
So yeah. At this point I probably want to lynch jay.

His behaviour towards me is directly correlated to the consensus of the thread. He starts off heaping shit on me when the whole town is sheeping hapa day one and I am universally unpopular.

Then when everyone calls me town he still maintains suspicion of me publicly. HOWEVER he did nothing to back up that suspicion, barely interacted with me and has seemingly forgotten his suspicions of me without a reasonable explanation why. Townies do not let scum reads just drop off the face of the earth without reason.

##Vote Jay

On January 08 2013 13:22 Hapahauli wrote:
Yeah, I understand that scum can play actively. However, I have yet to run into a scum that draws attention to themselves in such a manner so deliberately, and at the same time remain that calm about it. There are a very short list of players I believe are capable of that. CC is most definitely not one of those players.

On January 08 2013 13:22 Hapahauli wrote:
Yeah, I understand that scum can play actively. However, I have yet to run into a scum that draws attention to themselves in such a manner so deliberately, and at the same time remain that calm about it. There are a very short list of players I believe are capable of that. CC is most definitely not one of those players.

On January 08 2013 13:46 DarthPunk wrote:


But you have no evidence to suggest that he can't. What you are saying is that the entire basis of your defense of CC and trashing everyones case on him is a Hunch that he couldn't play that way?

On January 08 2013 13:44 jaybrundage wrote:



Yes I Sheeped Hapa in that moment, as did most of the thread on his case on you.

Then Hapa turned around and gave you a town read. He explained his thought process a bit but i wasnt quite convinced.

Why is it wrong to not go with everyones reads. I see nothing wrong with being suspicious of you. Would you pref i just sheep whatever the fuck hapa is saying.


I then asked him again how many games he played with you has he been able to read you well before and he gave me two instances when he correctly read you as town.

So with the new information i decided that I could change my read on you as scum to leaning townie. I didn't just drop my scummy read. I looked at new information presented and changed it accordingly. I believe you do the same.

On January 08 2013 13:48 jaybrundage wrote:

DP how do you feel about a Shaiopi lynch i think his stark inactivity could hurt us whether hes scum or town?

On January 08 2013 13:49 DarthPunk wrote:


Yeah but you never informed anyone of your change of read. It was DP still scummy yo. To DP is townie now.

So what you are saying is that you sheeped hapa when you thought I was scummy and sheeped hapa now you think I am townie.

I wish people would stop sheeping hapa.

On January 08 2013 13:51 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Jay,

You seem not to care whether you lynch town or scum. What gives? You made that comment about lynching a detrimental townie to me, now you think shaiopi would be a good lynch whether hes scum or town.

Also, you've been very inactive / not involved in the thread as well. Why are you in favor of a SP lynch?

On January 08 2013 14:00 jaybrundage wrote:


I never said he would be a good lynch if hes town. I said his inactivity hurts us whether hes scum or town.


In the end I can never know for sure if you, ShaioPi, ZBoson, Zentor or anyone else for that matter is town or scum. However if ShaioPi looks scummy then we should by all means lynch him.

So far he hasn't given us much content to go off and determine his alignment. I dont want him at LYLO because if he stays at this post rate we still wont have much to go on.

I have been a bit inactive I find it hard to continually post content. Also it find it difficult to continue to contributing when my best scum read is still alive. I had this same problem before with kata in one of my past games I got to tunneled on her and didn't branch out on other people.


CC whos your biggest scum read atm?

On January 08 2013 14:06 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:


You said you would be down for his lynch. How does he look scummy with the exception of lurking? What makes him have a good chance of flipping scum?