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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 06 2013 19:50 GMT
#541
Like this. What in the fuck is this? How do you go from...
Ahh something me and Yamato agree on... I hate that Mr. Z ain't doin shit this game.


To...
Okay this is rediculous. Yamato I feel like you're pressuring the weakest player right now (in terms of actualy content). These are super easy points to make as scum. These aren't good reasons to lynch Mr Z at all.


Hell the rest of the post is ridiculous too. You're just flinging shit at 3-4 players (Yamato, Mr.Z, Shiao, Xatalos) instead of doing anything productive.
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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2013 19:50 GMT
#542
On January 07 2013 04:49 MrZentor wrote:
But we can kill somebody today, right?


Who do you wanna string up? No hammer for you, I want to do it.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 06 2013 19:51 GMT
#543
On January 07 2013 04:49 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 04:45 Hapahauli wrote:
I really despise posts like that Mr.CC. Every time I've seen those "stream of consciousness," posts, it's been from scum.


Well doesn't that suck for me huh.


It's bad enough to make me reconsider my read on you.
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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2013 19:54 GMT
#544
On January 07 2013 04:50 Hapahauli wrote:
Like this. What in the fuck is this? How do you go from...
Show nested quote +
Ahh something me and Yamato agree on... I hate that Mr. Z ain't doin shit this game.


To...
Show nested quote +
Okay this is rediculous. Yamato I feel like you're pressuring the weakest player right now (in terms of actualy content). These are super easy points to make as scum. These aren't good reasons to lynch Mr Z at all.


Hell the rest of the post is ridiculous too. You're just flinging shit at 3-4 players (Yamato, Mr.Z, Shiao, Xatalos) instead of doing anything productive.


Calm down Hapa. I don't like that Mr. Z isn't doing anything this game. But Yamato's reasons for wanting him dead are lolcakes.

That's what I was thinking when I read it, so deal with it. I'm comfortable with a Yamato or Xatalos lynch right now. And no, I wasn't flinging shit at Mr. Z lol.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 06 2013 19:56 GMT
#545
On January 07 2013 04:54 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 04:50 Hapahauli wrote:
Like this. What in the fuck is this? How do you go from...
Ahh something me and Yamato agree on... I hate that Mr. Z ain't doin shit this game.


To...
Okay this is rediculous. Yamato I feel like you're pressuring the weakest player right now (in terms of actualy content). These are super easy points to make as scum. These aren't good reasons to lynch Mr Z at all.


Hell the rest of the post is ridiculous too. You're just flinging shit at 3-4 players (Yamato, Mr.Z, Shiao, Xatalos) instead of doing anything productive.


Calm down Hapa. I don't like that Mr. Z isn't doing anything this game. But Yamato's reasons for wanting him dead are lolcakes.

That's what I was thinking when I read it, so deal with it. I'm comfortable with a Yamato or Xatalos lynch right now. And no, I wasn't flinging shit at Mr. Z lol.


Take out Mr. Z and that's three players you just throw poop at.

If you're only comfortable with lynching Yamato/Xatalos, why did you devote half of your post to ShaioPi?
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MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 06 2013 19:56 GMT
#546
Mr. CC

The person I want to lynch is probably the person I'm voting for.

And Hapa, you never answered me. Can we lynch somebody today, plleeeeeeasssssee?
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2013 20:02 GMT
#547
On January 07 2013 04:56 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 04:54 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 07 2013 04:50 Hapahauli wrote:
Like this. What in the fuck is this? How do you go from...
Ahh something me and Yamato agree on... I hate that Mr. Z ain't doin shit this game.


To...
Okay this is rediculous. Yamato I feel like you're pressuring the weakest player right now (in terms of actualy content). These are super easy points to make as scum. These aren't good reasons to lynch Mr Z at all.


Hell the rest of the post is ridiculous too. You're just flinging shit at 3-4 players (Yamato, Mr.Z, Shiao, Xatalos) instead of doing anything productive.


Calm down Hapa. I don't like that Mr. Z isn't doing anything this game. But Yamato's reasons for wanting him dead are lolcakes.

That's what I was thinking when I read it, so deal with it. I'm comfortable with a Yamato or Xatalos lynch right now. And no, I wasn't flinging shit at Mr. Z lol.


Take out Mr. Z and that's three players you just throw poop at.

If you're only comfortable with lynching Yamato/Xatalos, why did you devote half of your post to ShaioPi?


Because he was talking in the thread, and I felt it needed addressing. I still have no clue who the hell he wants to lynch right now. Yamato/Xatalos are scummier than that dude.

And I'm glad I threw some poop. Thread needed a kick in the pants.

On January 07 2013 04:56 MrZentor wrote:
Mr. CC

The person I want to lynch is probably the person I'm voting for.

And Hapa, you never answered me. Can we lynch somebody today, plleeeeeeasssssee?


Oh I missed you were voting for Yamato. Cool beans. I should probably unvote you.

##Unvote
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 06 2013 20:06 GMT
#548
On January 07 2013 05:02 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 04:56 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 07 2013 04:54 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 07 2013 04:50 Hapahauli wrote:
Like this. What in the fuck is this? How do you go from...
Ahh something me and Yamato agree on... I hate that Mr. Z ain't doin shit this game.


To...
Okay this is rediculous. Yamato I feel like you're pressuring the weakest player right now (in terms of actualy content). These are super easy points to make as scum. These aren't good reasons to lynch Mr Z at all.


Hell the rest of the post is ridiculous too. You're just flinging shit at 3-4 players (Yamato, Mr.Z, Shiao, Xatalos) instead of doing anything productive.


Calm down Hapa. I don't like that Mr. Z isn't doing anything this game. But Yamato's reasons for wanting him dead are lolcakes.

That's what I was thinking when I read it, so deal with it. I'm comfortable with a Yamato or Xatalos lynch right now. And no, I wasn't flinging shit at Mr. Z lol.


Take out Mr. Z and that's three players you just throw poop at.

If you're only comfortable with lynching Yamato/Xatalos, why did you devote half of your post to ShaioPi?


Because he was talking in the thread, and I felt it needed addressing. I still have no clue who the hell he wants to lynch right now. Yamato/Xatalos are scummier than that dude.

And I'm glad I threw some poop. Thread needed a kick in the pants.
...


To the bolded... are you serious? Did you miss the entirety of page 25-26 of the thread? You know, the pages where Xatalos and Shaio had been fighting to lynch one another?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=391112&currentpage=25#489
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=391112&currentpage=25#494
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MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 06 2013 20:07 GMT
#549
Him missing page 26 might be why he thinks I haven't done anything.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 06 2013 20:08 GMT
#550
Like when you do the whole "stream of consciousness" thing and completely miss entire pages and major incidents in the thread, it looks terrrrrible.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 06 2013 20:09 GMT
#551
Alright. I've made my decision. I'm fine with lynching yamato77, especially if it comes down to me or him (which is a very real possibility at this point). I've outlined my reasons for having him as a lynch candidate earlier and my opinion hasn't significantly changed after that, unlike with MrZentor, DarthPunk or jaybrundage.

##Unvote ShiaoPi
##Vote yamato77


Mr. Cheesecake, I don't think it's bad to include counter-arguments within your case against someone. It should be a fair judgement after all, not a one-sided tunneling tool. Especially if you're not entirely convinced about your target being scum.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 06 2013 20:09 GMT
#552
Hapa, can we kill somebody today?

Yamato is as good a lynch as any.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 06 2013 20:11 GMT
#553
No, I'd lynch Xatalos over Yamato.

Yamato atleast has given me a reason to think he's town. His OMGUS vote against me looks very townie in retrospect. It's a suicidal play as scum.
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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2013 20:12 GMT
#554
On January 06 2013 17:25 ShiaoPi wrote:
I do scumhunt, just because I am not writing a case on anything that moves does not mean I am not doing it...
Boson is pretty much town in my eyes, no reason to share his spreadsheet with his thoughts lined out with us if he were scum. Also he has directly started to scumhunt as soon as he replaced in, gets lots of towniepoints from me.

CC is someone I don't want to lynch today, you may think him scummy for not making a shitton of cases but that is just a difference in playstyle imo. Looking through his filter he is actively trying to get more information out of people by asking questions promoting discussing. What I dislike is parking his vote on MrZ but that is nothing to be honest.



On January 06 2013 17:15 ShiaoPi wrote:
Okay finally got some time to give out some thoughts.

First off welcome Z-Boson, good to have a active replacement!
Moving on to some housekeeping:
DP's reactions since I was gone seem to me pretty townie, by extension Hapa seems town as well with the entire thoughtprocess behind tunneling being revealed. So I am retracting my scum-leaning read that I had on DP earlier.

I am interested currently in these people:
yamato
Xatalos
MrZ

yamato:
There are many things which would probably be me reiterating stuff that was mentioned (discrepancy in behaviour as hapa said). Not being really present, throwing votes around with little reasoning. But that can be explained by his lack of time due to RL business. could really use more analysis and reasoning from him.

Xatalos:
I said earlier that Xatalos is a lynchbait. That is because he is hesitating a lot, laying out a lot of his thoughts in the thread and therefore opening himself up for harsh critique if he changes his mind and posts it. His lack of any stance is alarming though. While it is somewhat just his playstyle (IIRC) I still dislike it a lot, I mean day 1 has been going for quite a long time now already, while we did not get more information through lynching there is still a lot of content to search through and find something.

MrZ:
He is useless, which is stupidly just his meta with the lightheartedness he has shown. I don't like useless people but cannot condemn him based on this.

Actually I started this post with wanting to lynch into Xata/yamato preferrably yamato but now that I am writing those reads feel just unsatisfying...There is nothing really much that distinguishes one option from the other. I am reluctant to lynch yamato since he seems legitimately busy, also relcutant to lynch Xata for just playing as he does (same goes for MrZ).
Somehow this day 1 has not been really productive >_>


On January 06 2013 17:25 ShiaoPi wrote:
I do scumhunt, just because I am not writing a case on anything that moves does not mean I am not doing it...
Boson is pretty much town in my eyes, no reason to share his spreadsheet with his thoughts lined out with us if he were scum. Also he has directly started to scumhunt as soon as he replaced in, gets lots of towniepoints from me.

CC is someone I don't want to lynch today, you may think him scummy for not making a shitton of cases but that is just a difference in playstyle imo. Looking through his filter he is actively trying to get more information out of people by asking questions promoting discussing. What I dislike is parking his vote on MrZ but that is nothing to be honest.



And apparently you missed this Hapa.

Just because he's voting for Xatalos and gave a little reason post for it doesn't mean he has super vindication behind it. He said he was reluctant to lynch Xatalos and then votes him cus OMGUS pretty much.

But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 06 2013 20:13 GMT
#555
Then can we kill Xatalos today?
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2013 20:13 GMT
#556
lol accidently quoted one of the things twice.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 06 2013 20:16 GMT
#557
And for the record Xatalos, the fact that you're voting Yamato right now does not look good, especially since all your posting regarding Yamato is limited to the following:

yamato77
- Voting for Mr. Cheesecake since... why?
- Weird logic and reasoning... scrambling for something to back up his opinions?
- Practically nothing useful in his (short) filter
- Talking almost exclusively about meta/policy/semantics, nothing really meaningful related to this game

Mr. Cheesecake hasn't looked all that bad lately, so I'm contemplating yamato77. It's a bit unfair because of his busy schedule, but the fact is, he hasn't done much so far (except suspecting MrZentor, a quite easy and passive target). I'm certainly not leaning town on you or Mr. Cheesecake though. It's just that I'm having a very hard time making scumreads in this game especially compared to my newbie games.

I'm contemplating a lynch of ShiaoPi or yamato77. I didn't really get a scummy feeling from my back-and-forth with ShiaoPi earlier, so yamato77 might be a better choice. He might improve his contributions after his RL issues are solved though, so it's not easy to decide. Mr. Cheesecake isn't out of the question either. What I need now is some kind of a sign or clue about who would be the right choice. Unfortunately I'm in a different timezone than most here, so not that much is happening while I'm online :/


The first post was made ~page 15 in the game, so it's quite out-dated. The next few posts are more "eh, by process of elimination, I'm lynching yamato."
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 06 2013 20:17 GMT
#558
On January 07 2013 05:12 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 17:25 ShiaoPi wrote:
I do scumhunt, just because I am not writing a case on anything that moves does not mean I am not doing it...
Boson is pretty much town in my eyes, no reason to share his spreadsheet with his thoughts lined out with us if he were scum. Also he has directly started to scumhunt as soon as he replaced in, gets lots of towniepoints from me.

CC is someone I don't want to lynch today, you may think him scummy for not making a shitton of cases but that is just a difference in playstyle imo. Looking through his filter he is actively trying to get more information out of people by asking questions promoting discussing. What I dislike is parking his vote on MrZ but that is nothing to be honest.



Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 17:15 ShiaoPi wrote:
Okay finally got some time to give out some thoughts.

First off welcome Z-Boson, good to have a active replacement!
Moving on to some housekeeping:
DP's reactions since I was gone seem to me pretty townie, by extension Hapa seems town as well with the entire thoughtprocess behind tunneling being revealed. So I am retracting my scum-leaning read that I had on DP earlier.

I am interested currently in these people:
yamato
Xatalos
MrZ

yamato:
There are many things which would probably be me reiterating stuff that was mentioned (discrepancy in behaviour as hapa said). Not being really present, throwing votes around with little reasoning. But that can be explained by his lack of time due to RL business. could really use more analysis and reasoning from him.

Xatalos:
I said earlier that Xatalos is a lynchbait. That is because he is hesitating a lot, laying out a lot of his thoughts in the thread and therefore opening himself up for harsh critique if he changes his mind and posts it. His lack of any stance is alarming though. While it is somewhat just his playstyle (IIRC) I still dislike it a lot, I mean day 1 has been going for quite a long time now already, while we did not get more information through lynching there is still a lot of content to search through and find something.

MrZ:
He is useless, which is stupidly just his meta with the lightheartedness he has shown. I don't like useless people but cannot condemn him based on this.

Actually I started this post with wanting to lynch into Xata/yamato preferrably yamato but now that I am writing those reads feel just unsatisfying...There is nothing really much that distinguishes one option from the other. I am reluctant to lynch yamato since he seems legitimately busy, also relcutant to lynch Xata for just playing as he does (same goes for MrZ).
Somehow this day 1 has not been really productive >_>

And apparently you missed this Hapa.

Just because he's voting for Xatalos and gave a little reason post for it doesn't mean he has super vindication behind it. He said he was reluctant to lynch Xatalos and then votes him cus OMGUS pretty much.


Okay cool. So that makes him suspicious then in your mind? Because you're apparently not considering lynching him.
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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2013 20:23 GMT
#559
On January 07 2013 05:17 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 05:12 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 06 2013 17:25 ShiaoPi wrote:
I do scumhunt, just because I am not writing a case on anything that moves does not mean I am not doing it...
Boson is pretty much town in my eyes, no reason to share his spreadsheet with his thoughts lined out with us if he were scum. Also he has directly started to scumhunt as soon as he replaced in, gets lots of towniepoints from me.

CC is someone I don't want to lynch today, you may think him scummy for not making a shitton of cases but that is just a difference in playstyle imo. Looking through his filter he is actively trying to get more information out of people by asking questions promoting discussing. What I dislike is parking his vote on MrZ but that is nothing to be honest.



On January 06 2013 17:15 ShiaoPi wrote:
Okay finally got some time to give out some thoughts.

First off welcome Z-Boson, good to have a active replacement!
Moving on to some housekeeping:
DP's reactions since I was gone seem to me pretty townie, by extension Hapa seems town as well with the entire thoughtprocess behind tunneling being revealed. So I am retracting my scum-leaning read that I had on DP earlier.

I am interested currently in these people:
yamato
Xatalos
MrZ

yamato:
There are many things which would probably be me reiterating stuff that was mentioned (discrepancy in behaviour as hapa said). Not being really present, throwing votes around with little reasoning. But that can be explained by his lack of time due to RL business. could really use more analysis and reasoning from him.

Xatalos:
I said earlier that Xatalos is a lynchbait. That is because he is hesitating a lot, laying out a lot of his thoughts in the thread and therefore opening himself up for harsh critique if he changes his mind and posts it. His lack of any stance is alarming though. While it is somewhat just his playstyle (IIRC) I still dislike it a lot, I mean day 1 has been going for quite a long time now already, while we did not get more information through lynching there is still a lot of content to search through and find something.

MrZ:
He is useless, which is stupidly just his meta with the lightheartedness he has shown. I don't like useless people but cannot condemn him based on this.

Actually I started this post with wanting to lynch into Xata/yamato preferrably yamato but now that I am writing those reads feel just unsatisfying...There is nothing really much that distinguishes one option from the other. I am reluctant to lynch yamato since he seems legitimately busy, also relcutant to lynch Xata for just playing as he does (same goes for MrZ).
Somehow this day 1 has not been really productive >_>

And apparently you missed this Hapa.

Just because he's voting for Xatalos and gave a little reason post for it doesn't mean he has super vindication behind it. He said he was reluctant to lynch Xatalos and then votes him cus OMGUS pretty much.


Okay cool. So that makes him suspicious then in your mind? Because you're apparently not considering lynching him.


Yes he's suspicious. But not moreso than Xatalos or Yamato.

You're taking my stream post really seriously. Stream of consciousness is what you think the instant you read it, not after you give it thought. But I stand by what I said about SP -- he was reluctant to lynch anybody, then he gets a vote by Xatalos and was like WELP, LYNCH THIS DUDE. It's scummy, yeah, but it doesn't change my reads on the other two.

Although I do appreciate your paranoia -- it's making me think you're so townie right now.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 06 2013 20:26 GMT
#560
Yeah, last game I knew Hapa was town when he got paranoid and started accusing me of being scum.
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